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  1. Thread: Moby!

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    We certainly had a great discussion about Moby...

    We certainly had a great discussion about Moby Dick.

    To me the highlight of the book and our discussion was Father Mapple's message about universal brotherhood. How prescient of Melville to make...
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    Food

    Just like we enjoy good books, we also enjoy good food. Moby Dick is full of references to food and here's a partial menu of goodies:



    meat
    potatoes
    dumplings
    steak
    gin and molasses...
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    @bounty ~ Thanks for those references. I...

    @bounty ~


    Thanks for those references.

    I do occasionally use those type of sites but always have a hard time with them. My attention drifts, I lose concentration, my eyes easily get tired,...
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    ^Excellent references to "murder". Indeed, you...

    ^Excellent references to "murder".

    Indeed, you were correct that people were equated with murderers in MD. Just like there had been those atavistic references which I had noted earlier.

    I wish...
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    quoting Sancho, Thanks!

    quoting Sancho,





    Thanks!
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    Then there are those of us who let those elites...

    Then there are those of us who let those elites know that they are even more dependent on government handouts in the form of abatements, government contracts, incentives, subsidies, tax shelters,...
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    I seem to have run out of ideas/themes to discuss...

    I seem to have run out of ideas/themes to discuss about MD. Am open to other thoughts about this great book which is defo worth a thorough reading.
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    Reveries

    There are many references to reveries in MD:




    —Posted like silent sentinels all around the town, stand thousands upon thousands of mortal men fixed in ocean reveries.†
    Chpt 1-3 *
    Let the...
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    A thought occurred to me and I hope I don't sound...

    A thought occurred to me and I hope I don't sound too dumb by asking but, would the Pequod have survived if she had been made of the same wood used in the USS Constitution?



    First let me say...
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    Tashtego

    Seems like a novella could have been written about his life. He was called "Wild Indian" from Nantucket and described as full blooded, having long hair, muscularity, and dark eyes. He gave the...
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    Aunt Charity, Temperance Revisited

    I mentioned previously that the MD universe is virtually female free with only the inn's cook and Aunt Charity making any significant contribution to the narrative. However, the latter makes an...
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    I had exactly the same thought as you did!

    I had exactly the same thought as you did!
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    Dog Eat Dog World

    Throughout MD there are repeated references to atavistic characters described as cannibals and savages or references to cannibalism and savagery. These are used to illustrate the world of Melville...
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    Forgot to add an idea and one important line ~...

    Forgot to add an idea and one important line ~ "a strange fatality pervades the whole career of these events , as if verily mapped out before the world itself was charted". In other words, that...
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    Fate

    Melville's MD gives a reader the impression he believes there is no free will. That despite all prayers, all beliefs, all sacrifices religious adherents may make, all talk of Divine mercy, all is...
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    If Queeg was affected by madness as was alleged...

    If Queeg was affected by madness as was alleged in the book (so far as I recall) then it could be said that there was a parallel between him and Ahab. Recall that some of the men (in particular...
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    In light of Wallace's disclosures in his analysis...

    In light of Wallace's disclosures in his analysis and parallels between Melville and Douglass, the book becomes even more relevant today. Am so glad to see that people are discussing it and applying...
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    I read the book and watched the movie many moons...

    I read the book and watched the movie many moons ago. In all honesty, neither made any real sense to me. As the picture reveals in the end, there never has been a mutiny in naval history despite all...
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    Life At Sea Can Be HELL

    I may have touched on this a bit earlier but the subject deserves more consideration:

    The very opening of the book features Extracts that introduce us 'poor devils' and 'devils of a sub sub'. Ever...
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    While he may not have taken to drink, Stubb used...

    While he may not have taken to drink, Stubb used alcohol as a reward for those who worked harder than others. In "Pequod Meets the Virgin" episode, the crew men of the Pequod make a strenuous effort...
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    I had not been aware of the following: Herman...

    I had not been aware of the following: Herman Melville won praise from a temperance journal for his 1850 novel White-Jacket, in which he insists that sailors are predestined to be “driven back to...
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    Darn ~ forgot to mention that in 1840s and 50s...

    Darn ~ forgot to mention that in 1840s and 50s nationwide and particularly in New England there was a very strong Temperance Movement. Many advocated the total cessation of liquor sales and use.
    ...
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    Demon Drink & Debauchery

    Throughout MD we see several references to the Demon Drink and the many pitfalls it leads to.

    At the Spouter Inn we see in its environs that it is filled with "shabby shelves, ranged round with...
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    @Sancho Another great post! If you read...

    @Sancho


    Another great post!

    If you read of Captain Healy in Michener's Alaska you will come across a similar tragic tale. Life at sea can readily lead to death at sea. Death and worse.
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    Sloop John B

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_LdqKIQ5Uo



    songfacts:


    https://www.songfacts.com/facts/the-beach-boys/sloop-john-b
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