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    It's definitely an essay I want help with. I...

    It's definitely an essay I want help with. I don't know what else you would call it, actually. It's just difficult for me to believe that the cookie cutter way of writing is the best way of writing....
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    I guess I see formulaic writing as a starting...

    I guess I see formulaic writing as a starting ground to what I'm talking about--maybe I need to improve my formulaic writing more before I work on this kind of thing. But the problem is that my...
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    I think I pretty much get formulaic writing. I'm...

    I think I pretty much get formulaic writing. I'm not amazing at it, but I'm not really amazing at anything, but I do it better than a lot of people do. What I want to achieve is something that seems...
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    Hmm. I think I am now certain that no one really...

    Hmm. I think I am now certain that no one really understands what I'm talking about.

    :)
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    Thank you so much for the response! I would...

    Thank you so much for the response!

    I would like to improve both. For reading, I am okay if I am a slow reader (I don't really know if I'm slow or fast), but would like to be able to have better...
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    Reading Tips

    I'm not sure where this topic should go, so it has ended up here.

    For a long time, I have had a lot of issues regarding my ability to read/write. I think I'm good at both, but I want to improve. I...
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    I love Wagner. Probably my favorite composer--I...

    I love Wagner. Probably my favorite composer--I have been planning on reading the librettos of the Ring Cycle--I have them saved to my desktop, waiting.

    Are you reading an online version of The...
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    I don't really care about most of this thread,...

    I don't really care about most of this thread, but can you give some examples of people you think are working in the same vein in her generation that have better work? Just cause I think it'd be...
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    Mallarmé was recently added to the pages at Poets.org, the website for the Academy of American Poets. http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/1284

    I was quite surprised at what I found! I think I had...
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    1.) Favorite 20th century poet: I have to say...

    1.) Favorite 20th century poet: I have to say either Stein, or Eliot, or Stevens I suppose. But all three of these are based less on my actual enjoyment and more on the things I've learned from them,...
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    If you think literary theory and writing are that...

    If you think literary theory and writing are that different, it could only be because you're paying attention. For 2,000 years literary theory was aesthetic theory, largely concerned with the...
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    Reading through the replies left me with a couple...

    Reading through the replies left me with a couple thoughts:

    1. What is poetry technique? I'm not sure, and the term honestly leaves me very suspicious.

    2. I don't believe in the idea of the...
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    Oh, it's a very subconscious process much of the...

    Oh, it's a very subconscious process much of the time. Or at least, the poet will start with conscious themes to guide them and their writing will manifest ones they weren't even thinking about.
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    Yeah, but some people just never GET it. Sure,...

    Yeah, but some people just never GET it. Sure, you can work at it really hard and whatever, and maybe get better--but to be a really good poet, you have to have something, I think. You have to at...
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    I think anyone can be a poet. But I do think some...

    I think anyone can be a poet. But I do think some people are more able in the beginning, and it will be very hard for people who have an average ability to work hard enough to reach them. It's like...
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    If you have ever seen Helen Vendler, you know how hot this is!
  17. Well, I have the 2nd edition of Poems, Poets,...

    Well, I have the 2nd edition of Poems, Poets, Poetry: An Introduction and Anthology and I have to say I did find it kind of depressing in parts.

    Of course, the task she has set forth is very...
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    Authenticity defames me.

    Authenticity defames me.
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    JBI makes a good point, as usual. My own...

    JBI makes a good point, as usual.

    My own writing is kind of odd, because of the influences I've let take hold of me--which I guess is the poetry of the avant-garde. I would say it's not very...
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    Yeah, I agree that there isn't. But the way the...

    Yeah, I agree that there isn't. But the way the public, the majority of people perceive poetry? I do kind of think they have very similar views of what poetry is or should be.

    And I have never...
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    Famous Quotes on the Art of Poetry

    I have been thinking a lot lately about those huge pretty much universally accepted ideas on poetry that float around all the time. Some of them are actual quotes--like the final line of Archibald...
  22. Umm, I think people have already pretty much done...

    Umm, I think people have already pretty much done this.
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    This subject makes me want to write about so many issues, but I will try to remain on topic.

    I, too, have had and am having trouble with figuring out just what is up with poetry. My interest in...
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    At first this post kind of made me angry, but...

    At first this post kind of made me angry, but then I decided I agree with you. Then I started writing a reply and got about 150 words in before realizing my reply was really the complaints I have...
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    Aesthetics

    What features and qualities do you enjoy in poetry and what helped form that aesthetic?
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