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    lol are fanboys actually a thing back then? ...

    lol are fanboys actually a thing back then?

    And it's not like Bronte hadn't written a nigh perfect female character before. See Helen Burns.
  2. Thread: Jane's cousins

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    The keypoint is management and order. She's a...

    The keypoint is management and order. She's a really orderly person to the point that she orders every single hour of her time every day beforehand. It's not really about the profit. It's the...
  3. Thread: Esther Summerson

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    I don't see the point of making Woodcourt...

    I don't see the point of making Woodcourt ridiculous really.

    Bleh, age difference shouldn't be a hindrance in romance. I thought you 21st progressives would agree. Yuckiness is the word...
  4. Thread: Esther Summerson

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    lol are you for real? Why would you accept a...

    lol are you for real? Why would you accept a proposal from some guy who came out of nowhere and just kneeled and said "Would you marry me?". And then he stalks her around like a creeper.

    What is...
  5. Thread: Esther Summerson

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    lol erotic? What the hell are you reading? John...

    lol erotic? What the hell are you reading? John Jarndyce is being perfectly reasonable with his proposal. He even lets Woodhouse win when he realizes Esther is too good to realize she loves him more....
  6. Thread: Esther Summerson

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    She likes Skimpole though, but she's critical...

    She likes Skimpole though, but she's critical enough (Dickens' critical eye) to see that he got issues which became problematic later on.

    Mrs Jellby is legit abandoning her kids. Look at Caddy.
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  7. Thread: Esther Summerson

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    Yeah, Esther views things like Dickens does....

    Yeah, Esther views things like Dickens does. That's why we got some social criticism moments from her mouth, which may feel a little jarring to her all good, non-sarcastic personality.

    Which one...
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    Ha, Shaw said that? Esther? Sanctimonious? She's...

    Ha, Shaw said that? Esther? Sanctimonious? She's not making a show of being good. She is good. Sentimental? Dickens is always sentimental. Maddening prig? Why, that's just his taste speaking.
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    Well, they kinda are. Politically motivated...

    Well, they kinda are. Politically motivated especially (dunno how popular Karl Marx was in Dickens' age). Trouble makers? They are causing trouble to the factory production after all.




    There...
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    It was based on Dickens' own observations about...

    It was based on Dickens' own observations about the strikes occurring at that time.

    Dickens doesn't believe on social activism in which it's either with us or against us, and the goal is of...
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    Oh come on, that sounds like you just have your...

    Oh come on, that sounds like you just have your shipping goggles on.
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    Okay, where did this lesbian thing come from? I...

    Okay, where did this lesbian thing come from? I certainly didn't see anything on the text that went to that direction.
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    Oh, Miss Wade. She's one of the most vile Dickens...

    Oh, Miss Wade. She's one of the most vile Dickens character in my opinion. Unlike Quilp whose evilness is deliciously over the top, Miss Wade is relatively normal if not for the fact that she spits...
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