Originally Posted by
Alexander III
Have I ever stated otherwise? Unless Gahndi was a warlord, I am not sure where you are going with this.
Have your forgotten that the only reason you have a computer, and the internet, and are not illiterate has a lot to do with all the wars of Europe's past. Look at India and Africa, the average European has all the advantages over the average Indian or African not because our nations were smarter but because our nations were stronger. Yes war is ugly, but that ugliness and the deaths of thousands before us is the only reason you
1)have the technology and education to post on this board
2) have the right of free speech to say what you think
3) (if you are a woman) Have any rights at all (Nazis took away all political rights from women)
In Italy after the end of the war, everything to do with Fascism and Mussolini was seen as wrong and having nothing to do with Italy. The prevalent thought became that the war was fascisms war not Italy's. In Kefallonia 5000 Italians were executed by the Germans because, rather than acting like the cowards we Italians are, they choose to do their duty and serve their country. The bravery and sacrifice of these men is better know in America than Italy. In fact up until recently, the Italian government would not even acknowledge that these men were executed by the germans. Why does my nation choose to abandon the only men who did their duty and showed courage? Because we lost the war, so everything to do with the war was evil, the loyalty and bravery of these men was not loyalty and bravery because we lost the war. And it is for reasons like these that I detest my country at times, because zealotry is zealotry. Acknowledge that war is vile, yes - abandon the boys (because wars are fought by boys not men) and pretend that they never existed and that their death had nothing to do with their country, it is base. Yes war is vile, so vile that in europe and America poverty is linked to obesity while in the rest of the world it is linked to starvation - Are we not lucky we had all those wars.
You sound like the grandson of a very wealthy businesses who states that work is demeaning, completely ignoring that the wealth he has which allows him not to work was made by his poor grandfather who worked all his life.
Acknowledge that war is vile, yes. Ignore the bravery of ones countrymen who did their duty and showed courage, that is even viler. Ignore that fact that we all enjoy wealthy lives because of the wars we vilify, that is just stupid.
Have I ever stated that I ignore the masses when it comes to history? You are inventing things at this point. Besides you seem to imply that the upper echelons of society were something utterly distinct from the masses, how old are you? That is like the thought of a teenage which has yet to see the world. When I look at the genealogical tree of my family one fifth of the men died in war. Do you think war is something which involved the lords siting back whilst they sent the peasants to die? In wwI the lie tenants had almost double the mortality rate that the privates.
Did you seriously just demonify education?
Look I don't like arguing with you very much, because it feels like an argument I had with an ex-girl friend of mine long ago. Were when she asked me what I thought of her friends, I said they were all nice and mentioned that one of them was very pretty, and from that she accused me of plotting to **** all her friends and betray her. At the time Failed to see the logical gap between "Claudia is very pretty" and "I will **** all of your friends", just as now I fail to see the logical gap between what I said before and what you think I said before.
Also I am not saying all or even most women makes these huge leaps devoid sense; just the crazy bat**** ones.