What exactly is going on in that picture Kizzo? Looks like you're doing something devious to that man in the white shirt.
*sniffs* That was beautiful, Virgil. Thanks so much, I enjoyed it a lot. ~~K♥zzo
Happy New Year Kizzo. I leave you with a present: http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=eG3afAIi6IQ. Now I'm not sure I like the back beat they put to it, but the video is fabulous.
OK, I did yours and Dick's. That WAS fun, you were right.
If I get ambitious, maybe I'll try to come up with 10 questions with a common theme. That could be a challenge, too.
Aunt Shecky has allowed me to put out one of her quizes of the week. Oh do give it a try: http://www.online-literature.com/for...t=38480&page=5, post #70. It's a lot of fun.
Your dogs loved and trusted you implicitely (spell) to let you hold them there, and you say you did it when they were pups, so it was a learning thing for them, je suppose. I like the fact that it wasn't a chore for you, that they let you do this. But by nature, a canine does not want to be down on its back, belly exposed, and 'pinned down', as the psycho trainer we had insisted. Yes, this person was very vicious and I threw two hundred bucks out the window for seven sessions with her. I'd cry everytime that woman would leave. But my hubby said to stay with the training, Pepper was quite difficult at first (who'd ever believe it now, though, lol).
Oh I'm aware of that Kiz, I just had never heard of the name. I think it was recited to you incorrectly. It does not "break the spirit" of the pup. It's a form of communication, an establishment of position and place. I have turned my pups on their back and just held them there. One does not have to be vicious. In fact I'm usually giggling and playing with the pup as I rub my nose into his snout. I would not consider what I did in any way threatening or intimidating to the pup. That's just part of the language of dogs. Now the person who taught you that may have been more aggressive abouot it.
Oh, it is very radical indeed, Virgil. I guess it 'evolved' with SOME dog trainers who claim to use the wolf as the guide to handling canines. Apparently, in the wild, a wolf will be pinned down on its back (a submissive stance, making the animal vulnerable) and the higher ranking wolf (often the alpha) will hold the submissive wolf down in that position with its teeth around the front of the pinned animal's throat. No blood is spilled, if the submissive wolf holds. It shows respect, obediance, fear, you name it. It teaches the subordinate to respect the authority of the holding wolf.
SO: some dog trainers believe that the dog owner, to get absolute compliance (and break the spirit of their domestic dog -- remember, they are NOT wolves, sheesh), should pin their dog down in that fashion, using their hand around the front of the dog's throat and holding till the dog stops fighting.
I know that many people have gained results with this, I can't deny it. But I cannot condone the act of breaking a dog's spirit to achieve what? Fear of the master? Some dogs will even urinate in fear. Another punishment? I can't stand it, Virgil. Honest.
Kizzo, what's an alpha wolf hold? I've never heard of that.
Merry Christmas to you and your family, Virgil!