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Yvonne Sturgeon
03-23-2015, 04:58 PM
Marlow speaks of his encounter with Kurtz as being at "the farthest point of navigation and the culminating point of my experience." Explain exactly n what sense Marlow's encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlow's understanding of the nature of man. How far is the meaning of the story concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature? How far is it a story about the disease of modern, social man in history?

Ryan Andrews
03-24-2015, 12:24 PM
Marlow has heard story after story about Kurtz and eagerly awaited meeting him nearly the entire story. Kurtz started to become more than a man to Marlow; he became an idol. When Marlow finally meets Kurtz, it seems as if Marlow's journey is complete. Kurtz is described as having a strong voice even when he whispered. This could symbolize his influence over others including Marlow. Kurtz embodies the greed and lust of human nature. When Marlow meets Kurtz, he is on his death bed which represents how the evil inside of him and the evil that he pursued through his imperialistic ideals has consumed him. When Marlow finally meets Kurtz and Kurtz is barely alive, Conrad shows how when humans give into greed, it devours them. This to me is what the entire story is about; men and their greed. Kurtz merely symbolizes the disease that humans are helplessly addicted to. The more, more, more culture. His final words are "The Horror! The Horror!". These words show the anguish and turmoil within Kurtz and how giving in to greed will morally corrupt you.

03-24-2015, 12:41 PM
Marlow's meeting with Kurtz is the final culminating point of his experience because he can finally put all the stories he has heard regarding Kurtz together. He can finally understand the meaning of man because he successfully come in contact with the legend himself. The meaning of the story is very concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature because when Marlow finally meets Kurtz, he is dying. This is representative of how Kurtz's greed took over his life and essentially ate him alive. He went over the edge within the darkness and went too deep to save himself. This story is very concerned with the disease of modern and social man in history because this disease is what killed Kurtz. His strong desire to gain wealth quickly and colonize these natives is what drove him to his endpoint.

03-24-2015, 04:46 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz is the climax of the novel because it's where Marlow realizes "the horror" of colonialism and imperialism. At the time of Kurtz's death, Marlow is forced to look into his own soul as Kurtz had, and he finds himself teetering over the edge into a pit of darkness and madness. Kurtz had fallen in, but Marlow saves himself and gets out of the Heart of Darkness at the last minute. The meaning of the story is concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature to a great extent because the reader realizes that Kurtz went mad as a result of being in the wilderness without restrictions or punishment, which allowed him to grow cruel. It is to a large extent a story about the disease of modern, social man in history because the books shows how modern, social, civilized men cannot survive in the wilderness. The machines don't work in Africa and it all represents the impending failure of imperialism in Africa.

Justin H P.2
03-24-2015, 04:52 PM
Marlow’s encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlow’s understanding of the nature of man, because through his experiences with Kurtz, he was able to see two sides of him. At first Kurtz was this idolized figure with a voice that was listened to by everyone. Towards the end of the story, however, Kurtz transitions into being this greedy and cruel man in the eyes of Marlow. The story is very concerned with the evil of man, as it displays Kurtz’s cruelty in a way that drastically contrasts with how his Intended views him. Kurtz’s natural self was made up of greed and cruelty and it becomes so obvious to Marlow later on in the story after seeing Kurtz for himself. The story is very concerned about the disease of modern, social man, because of the fact that what drove Marlow to his death was the almost addicting like nature of his pursuit of wealth.

03-24-2015, 06:07 PM
Marlow's whole journey was to meet Kurtz, his "idol". As he spends more time with Kurtz he realizes what a cold and cruel human he truly is. Kurtz has been taken over by the heart of darkness and Marlow is following right behind, but he saves himself. Kurtz's life revolves around his powerful self image and obsession with this job. He does not care about others but wants all the riches for himself. Before he dies he shouts, "The horror! The horror!" and this shows that he sees how depraved human nature is. The disease of modern, social man is Marlow's passion and desires almost defeat him due to creating a heart of darkness.

03-24-2015, 09:07 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlow's understanding of the nature of man because throughout Marlow’s journey in Africa, with and without Kurtz, he saw two sides of him. Kurtz was idealized in Marlow’s mind and worshiped almost as a deity, however after meeting Kurtz, Marlow saw the side of Kurtz that personified death. Marlow realized that this wilderness, this heart of darkness, is what turned this perfect man into a man who had “fallen of the cliff” and gone mad. The purpose of the story is show that every man has evil in himself, but is only brought out in certain scenarios. This imperialistic idea that Europe has of Africa is one of the things that brings out the true evil in man, and just as Kurtz went mad so will every man if they endlessly try to civilize and conquer something that cant be. This story shows how modern and civilized men slowly get diseased as they try to conquer Africa, which represents the darkness in Africa and the darkness that imperialism can bring upon man.

03-24-2015, 09:30 PM
Marlow’s journey to meet Kurtz is also a journey of idolizing Kurtz. He has heard nothing but great things of this mysterious man and Marlow is eager to meet him face to face. When he does finally meet Kurtz it is the opposite of what he expected. Kurtz represents the dark side of people and what can happen when that side completely takes someone over. When Marlow reaches Kurtz, Kurtz is long gone replaced by a hollow, greedy, mad man. The author shows us how greed it devours people and takes over their lives when they experience it through Kurtz's deterioration.

03-24-2015, 10:19 PM
In this story, Marlow's encounter with Kurtz can be explained as the culminating point of understanding the mystery of the man because he begins to realize that the only noticeable aspect of Kurtz is his voice, which is what he used to impact people in order to benefit himself. In the end, Marlow seems to come to terms with the reality of "Kurtz" and how he was really just a man that helped to improve the Europeans' place in a foreign country. Almost the entirety of this story is based on the evil of man, which has been placed in the role of Kurtz. Seeing as he controls the actions of native tribes, it is clear to us, the reader, that Kurtz has no good intentions for them.This is a story based on both past and present times because when he's trapped himself in the center of Africa, Kurtz has allowed himself to become primitive, almost like the natives themselves, like he's returned to a former state of mankind. But, he also displays characteristics of a social man in present day by allowing himself to be openly talked about amongst his coworkers as well as over the people that he influences.

03-25-2015, 12:11 AM
Marlow's encounter is considered to be the climatic point of his understanding of the nature of man because in person he converses with Kurtz instead of imagining the doubts and expectations rumored about Kurtz. The story is repetitive with the underlying nature with the evil in man by using details from Kurtz's actions from the beginning of the story to the end. The nature of man evolves throughout the story, introducing the virtues of man and how corruption easily triumphs those virtues. The disease of modern, social man in history in the story is also constant throughout the story; from the beginning the doctor introduces the mental health of the modern man followed by the journey to losing his mind to which at the end the modern man loses his mind.

03-25-2015, 12:17 AM
Throughout the novella, Marlow has been insistent on meeting Kurtz, due to the encouraging stories that he has heard about him. When this time came, it did not necessarily meet up to all Marlow’s expectations. Kurtz is seen as an influential, powerful, and idolised figure within the African community, with the ability to order the Natives around for his own personal gain. After meeting Kurtz, towards the end of the novella, Marlow’s favourable opinions changed significantly. Marlow realised that Kurtz’ actions in order to obtain ivory was corrupt, whilst not even taking into account the effect that his actions would have on the Natives. This novella shows the disease of modern, social men, and how the darkness of corruption, greediness, and cruelty can affect ones mind and soul.

03-25-2015, 01:05 AM
I think that for Marlow, meeting Kurtz has led him to see that humans are capable of going to extreme ends for their passions. Kurtz was transformed with the desire of ivory and to help him on his mission he was able to free himself of the constraints of civilization and become one with the natives.
The story is partially concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature since so many of the civilized people were able to revert themselves to savagery. The white people rather lose themselves to the jungle in this story and it shows that everyone has the capacity of good and evil within them.
The disease of modern, social man in history is that he attempts to assimilate other people to be like him. People continue to think that their ideas are better than others and are too prejudiced resulting in arguments and even violence as seen in the Middle East today.

Hoyt Crance
03-25-2015, 01:43 AM
As Marlow's journey along the river progressed, he was constantly fed information that Kurtz was the greatest man to have ever stepped foot on this planet and that every word that he speaks should be respected and understood completely. However, as Marlow began to get closer and closer to the inner station, he begins to reflect on the situation that Kurtz has been dealt and how Kurtz has managed to be successful in this dangerous part of the world. Marlow eventually comes to the conclusion that Kurtz has fallen victim to the principles of greed and jealousy. Instead of being satisfied with his business, Kurtz felt the obligation to expand at all costs, no matter the possible consequences. Furthermore, when Marlow finally meets Kurtz, Marlow is able to conclude that the corruption that allowed Kurtz to be successful was also the reason why Kurtz lost his mind and began to live like many African villagers. As he observes Kurtz, Marlow understands that when the nature of man focuses on the money aspect of life, greed and jealousy tend to override rational thought. In man's essential nature, Conrad is attempting to say that having the most of something or being the most powerful does not always lead to happiness and success in life. Rather, Conrad believes the men who are able to live as simply and harmoniously are the men who will have success in life. In history, whether it be the Holocaust or the Imperialism of Africa, it is evident that when corrupted, the nature of man turns to evil beliefs and beliefs of supreme power or success.

03-25-2015, 02:43 AM
Throughout the story, Marlow idolized Kurtz. He believed he had the “voice” to move others, to change others. He said that “Kurtz was one of the immortals”, almost as if Conrad was trying to make a contrast between Kurtz and Jesus, someone who is immortal and idolized by all. Furthermore, he talked about how Kurtz “did not seem in pain” despite how dead he looked, another example that draws a parallelism between Kurtz and Jesus. When he finally meets Kurtz, he finds out the real nature of men. No matter how powerful Marlow’s “love” for Kurtz was, he could not ignore the Kurtz’ desires for greed, and how greed has turned Kurtz into a “savage” who is “hollow at the core”.

03-25-2015, 04:23 AM
During Marlow's journey through the Congo, Marlow heard many stories andgreat things about Kurtz. He slowly becomes somewhat obsessed with Kurtz, and has been really wanting to meet him. He makes meeting with Kurtz the only reason for his travel in the Congo. As soon as he meets Kurtz, he is the exact opposite of what Marlow expected, and this was the culminuating experience for Marlow. He learns that Kurtz is really an ignorant and selfish man with desires to only become rich and powerful. Because of this, it shows that when men have a thirst for wealth and power, it leads them to have a greedy attitude in life.

03-25-2015, 11:19 AM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlow's understanding of the nature of man because throughout this journey Marlow has experienced many different sides to different things all around him, including Kurtz himself. I do not think a person could learn or have an opinion about something unless they have seen both sides of it. This story is very concerned with both the evil of man in his essential nature and the disease of modern, social man to show both aspects of this idea.

Ethan Hanson
03-25-2015, 12:15 PM
Marlow's journey throughout the novel is to meet Kurtz his "idol", he is excited to meet Kurtz because of the many stories he has heard about Kurtz. Kurtz is viewed as a godlike,influential,and a idolized figure with the Africans. However, when Marlow encounters Kurtz, he realizes that Kurtz was driven by power and money, turning him into an evil man or a heart filled with darkness. Marlow realizes that men are driven by power and greed, and how Kurtz was getting ivory in a corrupt way. Conrad shows us that greed and power can lead to a mans downfall and ultimately cause him to become lost mentally, disregarding any type of social equality, leading to Kurtz to become the "Heart of darkness"

03-25-2015, 01:51 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of his entire experience because for the entire story, Marlow has been waiting to finally meet Kurtz. As the story progressed, Kurtz became an idol to Marlow, and he grew more and more respect for him. When they finally meet face to face, Marlow felt his journey was finished. When Marlow sees Kurtz for the first time, he is very close to death. This could symbolize how the greed and lust that Kurtz attained in his life ultimately destroyed him in the end.

03-25-2015, 03:05 PM
Marlow listens to the many diverse things and descriptions that others have to say about kurtz. he started to think himself that he was the best person around, since all that he has heard was positive things about him. but once marlow gets ahold of him he is filled with evil and greed leaving marlow to see who kurtz really is.

03-25-2015, 03:09 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz is regarded as the culminating point of his understanding of the nature of man by the way he views Kurtz as an idol. Marlow sees him as the point and purpose of his journey through the Congo. Marlow believes that Kurtz is a true man by the way he speaks his mind and is open to his own thoughts. The meaning of the story is concerned with the evil of man to the extent of the colonists in Africa. The Europeans are evil in the way they treat the natives like savages. The story is quite concerned with the modern, social man by the way Kurtz was driven to his death and how Marlow became intensely ill from the want of wealth and adventure.

Collin Stark
03-25-2015, 06:09 PM
Marlow's knowledge of Kurtz is assembled by the countless heaps of appraisal he is described by; it seems like everyone and their mother adores and idolizes Kurtz. These stories of Kurtz being almost super human is what builds Marlow's interpretation of what kind of man Kurtz is. The story deals heavily with the evilness of man whether it is the treatment of the natives or the corruption of Kurtz in the end of the story evil persists. Disease and illness also play a key role in the story as health is power as evident in the description of the manger who " got his role because he was never sick."

03-25-2015, 06:55 PM
When Marlow first arrives at Kurtz's station, he thinks he sees a line of ornamented posts surrounding the main house. Upon closer inspection he realizes that the posts are topped by human heads. These heads provide the most direct evidence of Kurtz's "unsound" methods or, to some, his insanity. They also symbolize the savage and brutal nature that lies within each of us. Throughout the story Marlow idolizes Kurts, he believed he had the strength to change others and move them into a positive direction. He finally realizes that Kurtz is an absolute slob, he is a completely ignorant man, selfish, and only cares for himself and not others. Right there you can see that the drive to get money and power also can make you a selfish and cruel person.

Sydney Davis
03-25-2015, 07:02 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlows understanding of the nature of man because Kurtz is man that is looked up to by many. Marlow was told not to talk to Kurtz but to listen to him, show how important of a man Kurtz is. Marlow becomes so fascinated with him that he begins to idolize him. When Kurtz dies Marlow is very sad and disappointed with the fact that he never got the opportunity to have a conversation with him. The meaning of the story being concerned with the evil of man is a main focus point of the novel. The fact that all Kurtz is interested in money and Ivory which shows he is a greedy person.

03-25-2015, 07:12 PM
Throughout Marlow's journey to find Kurtz, he was filled with ideas of Kurtz being this amazing, perfect individual who successfully treated the natives well as well as receiving great economic prosperity. Well, Marlow found out at the end that the economic prosperity was very alive in Kurtz's head. Marlow discovers Kurtz to be the opposite of what everybody on the journey had made him out to be. He finds Kurtz to be a quintessential depiction of a European imperialist with the intentions of draining the African lands and people of their prosperous natural resources. Marlow is disappointed in the end of the story. The story digressed into a story of disease (which killed Kurtz and got Marlow sick) which heavily influenced the outcome of the story but at the same time, highlighted the truth of the life in Africa.

03-25-2015, 07:57 PM
Marlow has been told by many different figures in this story about how remarkable Kurtz is. As the story progressed, Marlow became more and more fascinated (even obsessed) with Kurtz and meeting him. Throughout his journey, Marlow saw terrible obscenities and became very aware of just what the Europeans were doing in the African congo. Alongside all of this, he is hearing all of these great things about Kurtz, giving some sort of hope that there is some sort of goodness in this land consumed by evil. That is why meeting and speaking with Kurtz was "the culminating point" of Marlow's experience in the Congo. He had heard different things from different people about Kurtz, but he finally had the chance to meet him for himself. The Heart of Darkness is meant to show us how selfishness and greed can drive people to become evil, to do horrible things. So, yes, I believe this story does give us a picture of what the nature of man is really like. The Europeans justify what they are doing to the African natives by thinking they are doing what they want, they are getting what they want: wealth and power.

03-25-2015, 08:16 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz was the culminating point of his experience because he was introduced to the wildness and savage side of Kurtz that he had never heard of or seen before. He saw how much the Congo and being a part of The Company has changed Kurtz as a person. It is the "farthest point of navigation", metaphorically speaking, because throughout the story Marlow was excited to see and meet Kurtz, and when he finally did, he felt as he had completed his journey. The story shows how the evil of man can harm a society and ruin the harmless nature around it. The story shows how the people who seem to be more civilized at first can turn out to be the real savages. This story demonstrates the ability of man kind to become corrupt through the need for power and wealth.

03-25-2015, 08:45 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz is considered the culminating point of his experience because the entire journey leads up to this moment. After hearing many stories about Kurtz's greatness, Marlow has very high expectations for meeting him face to face. However, when Marlow finally meets Kurtz he is not all what Marlow expected because Kurtz has changed into a greedy, mad man. Due to exposure to the Heart of Darkness and his greed for ivory Kurtz has become evil. The author expresses through the story how greed can ultimately change people for the worse if they allow it to take over.

03-25-2015, 08:57 PM
Kurtz at the beginning was described as someone that everyone like and had no flaws. He was a man with a voice that people couldn't resist and was making the best out of imperialism in the inner station. As Marlow got close to the inner station and witnessed the environment and difficult situation he admired Kurtz even more for what he was able to accomplish. In the inner station there is a lack of civilization and technology once again making people act like savages. When Marlow meets Kurtz he admires him but then realizes that his isolation has caused him to go mad. Kurtz going mad is an example of how being away from civilization and being exposed to the evils of imperialism such as the severed heads can make someone go mad. It makes the modern social man seem weak because they complain about problems they face in society that are nothing compared to the problems that Kurtz had to face in the inner station.

03-25-2015, 09:08 PM
Marlow’s encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlow’s understanding of the nature of man because it gave Marlow the opportunity to observe the final moments of a man of such great power. Upon listening to his last words, “the horror!..the horror!”, Marlow learns that despite Kurtz dehumanizing of the natives throughout the story, he ultimately regrets what he has done and views it with great horror. The story shows that even the greatest and most remarkable men like Kurtz are unable to conquer the evil of greed. Also, The story shows that the modern man has a tendency to attempt to excessively influence their surroundings due to the belief that they are the superior beings.

03-25-2015, 09:38 PM
I think this story is very much a story about the disease if modern, social man in history because if anything mankind is just as corrupt as it was when this story was written, however, the corruption takes on a different form than it did at this time, but at the end of the day the diseased corruption is still present.

03-25-2015, 09:41 PM
Marlows meeting with Kurtz is the final culminating point of his experience because the entire story has basically been leading up to it. It finally gives Marlow the chance to see how Kurtz truly is and to put a face to all of the stories that he has heard. In Marlows eyes, Kurtz embodies everything that he has heard about him. When Marlow meets Kurtz, he is close to death. Marlow realizes what has brought Kurtz to this point and that greed and lust has devoured him. Kurtz's final words are "The horror! The horror!" maybe symbolizing that in his final moments, Kurtz finally realized the evils in Africa and what has truly killed him.

03-25-2015, 09:47 PM
Marlow has been hearing all these great stories of Kurtz throughout the whole novel and when he finally meets him it is the culminating point of his experience. The story is concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature, since Kurtz is full of greed and cruelty and after their encounter Marlow was able to see the true corrupt nature of Kurtz. Greed is like a disease to men and leads to the downfall of many great men.

Patrick M
03-25-2015, 09:56 PM
When Marlow meets Kurtz he can finally find out what the man is really like. He has heard stories of how incredible he is and he has heard stories that put Kurtz in a very different light. In meeting with Kurtz he is symbolically discovering the nature of man. He sees how driven by greed and lust for power Kurtz really is. It has seemed to have taken over his life and now he rarely even comes back to visit civilization. The story casts a light on the disease of men in history since its about how the white men are ripping apart the Congo taking whatever they can with the least possible effort they can manage.

03-25-2015, 09:56 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz is the climax of the novel as Marlow is able to determine for himself what kind of person Kurtz is in comparison to the rumors and stories he's been told. This novel focuses on the evil of man when describing how these civilized Europeans revert to savagery. The wilderness can be used to describe the process of losing one's virtues and turning to evil acts to survive in the interior. Another example of the evil of man can be seen when Marlow is constantly giving his opinion to the reader when describing the cruel treatment he witness and how no one is able to refer to Africans other than criminals or rebels. This novel can be said to an extent that it is a story about the disease of the modern, social man in history in that Heart of Darkness displays how modern men during that time aren't able to survive in the wilderness as the machinery isn't being put to beneficial use. Instead, the machinery is described as "decaying" and this leads the reader to form the opinion over the course of the novel that imperialism in Africa isn't going to be long term. The focus has always been on greed and as a result, nothing is accomplished. Kurtz possibly realizes this when his last words are, "The horror! The horror!"

03-25-2015, 10:20 PM
Marlow speaks of his encounter with Kurtz as being at "the farthest point of navigation and the culminating point of my experience." Explain exactly n what sense Marlow's encounter with Kurtz may be regarded as the culminating point of Marlow's understanding of the nature of man. How far is the meaning of the story concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature? How far is it a story about the disease of modern, social man in history?

The entire time Marlow has been in Africa he has seemingly heard non stop about Kurtz and what a remarkable man he is. He gathers from various people that Kurtz has produced more ivory at his station than all the other stations combined. After hearing so much about Kurtz, Marlow is intrigued and wants to meet him and see this incredible man in person. When he does meet Kurtz, he realizes he has gone insane. He begins to resent Kurtz because Marlow believes he is merely a man who has lost himself in his obsession with ivory, riches and power and has been driven mad by loneliness, sickness and interaction with the natives. Through this experience, Marlow discovers that with nothing to guide or stop him, the nature of a man will draw him to riches and power. Marlow is repulsed by what Kurtz has become and thinks it is evil.

Chris N.
03-25-2015, 10:22 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz can be regarded as the cumulating point because he has gathered all these great information about Kurtz being this heroic and honorable man that is helping improve the African natives way of life, but Marlow sees Kurtz as he really is self-inulged and very greedy. The meaning of the story is concerned with the evil of man in his essential nature because things like greed, an abundance of wealth, and power through influence are really the aspects that have created evil and darkness in Africa and can be considered a disease of modern, social man in history as it continues to consume and greatly affect even the most honorable and civilized men that come in contact with them.

03-25-2015, 10:27 PM
When Marlow finally meets Kurtz, he feels as if his journey has come to the X on the map. He has found the one person he has been searching for, the one person who seems to have the perfect meaning behind everything. Marlow greatly idolizes Kurtz, and his ability to always have a say. Kurtz's voice has the ability to change others, he is thought of as a kind of religious figure throughout the novel and very idealized. Along the journey of friendship between Marlow and Kurtz, Marlow realizes that Kurtz is not the man Marlow thought he was in the beginning. Kurtz is actually filled with jealousy and greed, in determination to discover the ivory.Kurtz has freed himself from the ties of civilization and has become one with the natives.

03-25-2015, 10:36 PM
Marlow describes meeting Kurtz as an experience that "throw[s] a kind of light […] into my thoughts,” meaning that it clears up the ideas he had about Kurtz. He can finally understand all the stories he’s heard about him. It is the final culminating point because he is finally realizing the evil of colonialism and imperialism. When he is with Kurtz as he is about to die he realizes the truth of the nature of man. Kurtz has gone mad, but luckily Marlow isn’t overtaken by the “heart of darkness.” We are shown how greed and no morals have led to Kurtz’s death. In the beginning of the novel, the doctor introduces the mental health of the modern man ends up losing his mind after his journey, which explains the disease of the modern and social man in history.

03-25-2015, 10:42 PM
Marlow's meeting with Kurtz opened his eyes to what man could become when left alone plagued by the evils of mankind. Without companions and a social life Kurtz is left to be with his dangerous mind most of the time, and although is still spoken about many times throughout the story. Marlow, at one point, is so eager to meet Kurtz that he felt that if he died before he reached his death bed, he felt as if the whole journey had been a complete waste. After hearing countless stories from many people on the way to Kurtz, he has a very high expectation, but soon realizes by the heads on the stakes and the way people worship him that he is a product of greed, and corruption. The meaning of the story is directly concerned with the evils of social pressures from man as all whites were treating them poorly so all of them took part in the savage ways of treating humans.

03-25-2015, 10:43 PM
Marlow does come to his final realization on mans nature when he encounters Kurtz at the inner station. As Marlow makes his way down river the traditional societal norms that seem to keep people like Kurtz and Marlow civilized seem to break down. As that structure breaks down people find less need in maintaining the high moral standards the exist outside in the more advanced world. the story clearly talks of the evil of mans true nature, that was Conrad's point in writing the Novelette, and he does say that the modern man is diseased, but not with evil, rather with ignorance. That is how the seemingly normal nice people were able to commit some of the most atrocious acts.

03-25-2015, 10:47 PM
Marlow had learned and heard a lot about Kurtz before ever seeing him. Throughout the beginning of the story we learn what a powerful leader and ivory trader Kurtz is in the jungle. This is considered the culminating point to when Marlow learns the nature of man because when he finally meets Kurtz he realizes the major flaws he has and the problems he's dealing with. Through his experiences with Kurtz, Marlow learns how little he cares for mankind and is selfish in that, all he wants is ivory.

03-25-2015, 10:48 PM
Marlow has heard about Kurtz in the beginning of his journey, and later on, when he heard about him several more times, reaching Kurtz became much alike finishing the trip for him. History of Kurtz in Marlow's interpretation seems to show that even Kurtz was evil while alive, he actually was able to see his sins and his evil style of life, so he could've possibly improved something in his life if he had time. As Kurtz is a representative of Europeans, he represents madness in the society, it's an illness and corruption. But it could improve if it realizes that it does wrong things.

03-25-2015, 10:50 PM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz could be seen as the culminating point of him understanding man by seeing what being truly alone out in the jungle can do to a person and how they react to being cut off from social communication. Heart of Darkness is largely concerned with what evils are revealed in human nature when no other outside influence is concerned, it delves into the human psyche to explore how and why they do the things they do. The modern social man in this story is one that takes what he wants with little to no regard for what effect it'll have on the people it was done to, especially if those were less fortunate than him and those actions had a mean for getting them farther ahead in life, having said that I believe the story is more concerned with the evil aspects of human nature.

03-25-2015, 10:56 PM
Kurtz represents the most extreme type of person that is imperializing in Africa. He is greedy and selfish and will do what he must to acquire what he desires. He eventually becomes obsessed with collecting ivory so he raids all of the native tribes he can find to go and collect their ivory. As Marlow travels through Africa to reach the "Heart of Darkness" he meets Kurtz who is found out to actually be evil which represents that deep in the wilderness or deep down in Humans evil is present. Also the fact that it is the more "civilized" people behaving in this manner while the natives simply want to be left alone shows that even if mankind is developing in a technological sense they aren't acting more "civilized" by taking what they desire.

03-25-2015, 10:59 PM
I chose the theme of adventure. It was an adventure for Marlow because he followed his dream of going to Africa on an old steamboat and succeeded in getting there. He had many pitfalls that he worked past and succeeded in arriving at his destination. He also got to meet the “famous” Kurtz. He learned a lot about himself on the journey and reached the goals that he set out to complete.

Neil Castro
03-25-2015, 11:02 PM
Marlow has heard positive comments about Kurtz, everyone believe Kurtz is a great man, for this reason Marlow start his journey to find Kurtz and see how great he is and what have he done. As the Story goes we learn about evil, Evil are the Europeans because they use and abuse the Africans for their own purpose but in reality they are in a journey to help them to become better, Europe doesn't know what is happening but mostly of them seek power.

03-25-2015, 11:06 PM
Marlow says that this is the culminating point of his experience because everyday he had heard stories about Kurtz and what he's accomplished in Africa so he becomes very interested in Kurtz as a whole because he's very curious as to how he was able to do what he did. Meeting him is when all those stories came together and when he finally got the image of Kurtz he was craving for. Kurtz is evil in his essential nature because all he lived for was the ivory. That is evident when the Russian says that Kurtz almost shot him for a little stash of ivory. He would go through lengths to get the ivory and he didn't care who was endangered from his actions. If the modern man craves money it can make him become greedy and the thirst for the cash would eventually become part of his nature and what all his decisions are based on.

03-25-2015, 11:11 PM
Marlow hears many amazing things bout Kurtz, that he is amazing, that he is amazing with people, that he is one of the best people ever, which is why his journey on his way to Kurtz remains such an important one. Everything has led up to that moment, however it in a sense peaks because Marlow then insists that Kurtz's "soul has gone mad." He knows he will not continue any further on his journey and that that is the end of the line, which means for his that is the deepest he would ever be into Africa. Kurtz is talked up back in Europe and then somewhat bashed as Marlow gets closer to him, which may be represented of the situation as well that Marlow was going through on his travels.

03-25-2015, 11:16 PM
Marlow has heard stories of Kurtz through out the novella. Though out Marlow's adventures he has discovered lots of important things. But he has awls had a piece missing though out his journey. He has always heard about Kurtz and he was displayed as a legend. Kurtz represents imperialism and that too is praised by so many Europeans. By finally meeting Kurtz he is able to fully understand imperialism. He sees mans true intentions in the world are to better themselves and that humans are selfish by nature. This story is all about trashing man and trying to point out his flaws. Conrad tries his best to focus the blame of imperialism on man the Europeans. The truth is in history the man with the bigger stick always wins. Europe was the most advanced at the time so going after easy natural resources to fuel their empire was their main concern.

03-25-2015, 11:34 PM
Throughout the entire book, Marlow has constantly brought up Kurtz and how badly he wanted to meet him. He had heard so many enticing stories about Kurtz and seemed almost obsessed. He finally meets Kurtz on his deathbed and is still entranced by how power and authority radiates off of him, but he also realizes that the true nature of man is bad. People are taken over by greed for wealth and fame and that is what ultimately lead to Kurtz's death. The book is about greed and Kurtz represents the evilness of mankind. It not only shows the effects of imperialism, but how all those terrors were brought upon by men.

03-25-2015, 11:57 PM
Conrad is trying to show that the natural instinct of man is to be greedy and that it is a key survival trait for mankind as a species. Kurtz's actions are inhumane because of the greed that drives him to do such, but no one at the moment sees the craziness of his actions. Before Marlow meets Kurtz, he is told of Kurtz's great achievements and money made, but it is not until Kurtz dies that Marlow figures out that he was evil and greedy. Not even Kurtz himself really knew the truth until he died, screaming "the horror" of the actions he committed. The whole time, he put the actions behind him and told himself it was okay what he was doing, until the end when he could not take the guilt anymore.

Emily Schwartz
03-26-2015, 01:52 AM
Marlow's whole journey is based on ideas and imagination, light, so to speak. He is pushed to answer questions that these ideas and thoughts bring about. In example, who really is Kurtz? After he meets Kurtz, he thinks that he will be able to find out the truth about him, a solution to his ideas. He finds that Kurtz is not all that he is made out to be. Now that light has turned into darkness. This makes the reader wonder about human nature and human qualities, are the people we surround ourselves with really who we think they are or are they like Kurtz, and completely the opposite.

Amin Taherabadi
03-26-2015, 02:05 AM
Marlows Journey through the heart of darkness in order to meet kurtz is representative of the two sides of kurtz through the personifications, metaphors, and other literary devices in the book. marlow realized that the wilderness, pulled the corruption and incivility in kurtz as his perception is as far as his mental state goes before the journey. while the colonists were more civilized and prepared at the beginning of the journey.

Katie Craig
03-26-2015, 02:17 AM
Marlow's encounter with Kurtz is considered the culminating point of Marlow's understanding of the nature of man because he was finally able to piece together who Kurtz was. Marlow, after hearing many stories of Kurtz, was able to make a clear opinion of Kurtz on his own. He was able to use the stories he heard and what he learned from meeting with him and figured out what he thought of him on his own. Marlow learns that Kurtz is not actually the god that he has been made out to be. Kurtz is very selfish and power hungry like the rest of Europe. This example of Kurtz shows that people in general are all greedy no matter what social setting they are put in.

03-26-2015, 07:00 PM
Marlow has discovered that as he gets deeper and deeper into Africa the men have gone more and more back to their primal instincts. These are the instincts of life and death and every man for himself. Men will always be greedy and take more than they deserve and will never be fully satisfied. The disease is greed and the irony is Kurtz has been sick multiple times and eventually dies from this disease.

03-26-2015, 10:01 PM
Meeting Kurtz is the culminating point of his journey because up until then he had only heard stories of his greatness but now he gets to meet him and direct who he really is. This helps Marlow understand the essential nature of man because he sees that Kurtz has some evident flaws and is very human despot the god-like descriptions that everyone gave him. I do not believe that the story is precisely about the evil nature of man but rather the evil nature of society. I believe the story focuses on how society negatively influences man and brings out the evil within him because despite the many flaws brought out in man in the story, there is still an underlying simplicity and good in certain characters. None such undertone is evident of society in the novel and so I believe that is the evil entity in the story.