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rider
01-17-2008, 03:08 AM
Occupied in observing Mr. Bingley’s attentions to her
sister, Elizabeth was far from suspecting that she was
herself becoming an object of some interest in the eyes of his friend. Mr. Darcy had at first scarcely allowed her to be
pretty; he had looked at her without admiration at the
ball; and when they next met, he looked at her only to
criticise. But no sooner had he made it clear to himself and
his friends that she hardly had a good feature in her face,
than he began to find it was rendered uncommonly
intelligent by the beautiful expression of her dark eyes. To
this discovery succeeded some others equally mortifying.
Though he had detected with a critical eye more than one
failure of perfect symmetry in her form, he was forced to
acknowledge her figure to be light and pleasing; and in
spite of his asserting that her manners were not those of
the fashionable world, he was caught by their easy
playfulness. Of this she was perfectly unaware; to her he
was only the man who made himself agreeable nowhere,
and who had not thought her handsome enough to dance
with.
He began to wish to know more of her, and as a step
towards conversing with her himself, attended to her
conversation with others. His doing so drew her notice. It
was at Sir William Lucas’s, where a large party were
assembled.

This is the text is from P&P, took from Chapter six in the book!!!!! What are the themes alluded in the passage and what is its significance?? Really need help asap..

I really need help asap.

amanda_isabel
01-17-2008, 03:26 AM
the significance of this selection is that this is where Ms. Austen outrightly marks the turning point as to how Mr. Darcy viewed Lizzy.

as for themes, i have no idea exactly what you're looking for, so i can't help..

rider
01-18-2008, 04:32 AM
anyone else????:(

sciencefan
01-18-2008, 09:08 AM
Maybe it would help you if you first identify what the major themes of the book are,
and then see what you can find in your passage.
http://www.gradesaver.com/classicnotes/titles/pride/themes.html
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/pride/themes.html

If it makes you feel any better, I would have a lot of trouble answering this question and I read the book twice last winter, and I've seen 30 hours of it on film!

We know that the book was first named "First Impressions" because neither Elizabeth nor Darcy get a favorable first imression about the other, but both grow to change their minds. Darcy begins his change of mind in chapter 6, but Elizabeth remains stubborn throughout most of the book, only beginning to see the light after Darcy explains himself in the letter.

sciencefan
01-18-2008, 09:13 AM
Occupied in observing Mr. Bingley’s attentions to her
sisterlove?


, Elizabeth was far from suspecting that she was
herself becoming an object of some interest in the eyes of his friend. Mr. Darcy had at first scarcely allowed her to be
pretty; he had looked at her without admiration at the
ball; and when they next met, he looked at her only to
criticise. But no sooner had he made it clear to himself and
his friends that she hardly had a good feature in her face,
than he began to find it was rendered uncommonly
intelligent by the beautiful expression of her dark eyes. To
this discovery succeeded some others equally mortifying.
Though he had detected with a critical eye more than one
failure of perfect symmetry in her form, he was forced to
acknowledge her figure to be light and pleasing; and in
spite of his asserting that her manners were not those of
the fashionable world, he was caught by their easy
playfulness.love?


Of this she was perfectly unaware; to her he
was only the man who made himself agreeable nowhere,
and who had not thought her handsome enough to dance
with.pride


He began to wish to know more of herlove

And of course, I'm using the word love in the American casual sense. It's really more of a physical attraction.

rider
01-18-2008, 11:31 AM
Am stuck with the significance =[.... I think it foreshadows his proposition speech but cant elaborate anymore.

sciencefan
01-18-2008, 11:39 AM
Am stuck with the significance =[.... I think it foreshadows his proposition speech but cant elaborate anymore.
I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking about. Did your teacher tell you that was the significance? I thought the other response was a good one, i.e., the significance is that Darcy begins to be attracted to Elizabeth and change his mind about her, i.e., setting down his prejudice.

Her pride though, is still going good and strong.


Foreshadows his proposition speech... really? Did you get that idea from some authority? I guess if your teacher says so, then that's what you have to work with.

I see his proposition as all about his family station and prejudice and the struggle he had letting it all go, when this scene is all about being physically attracted to her.

I guess you could say this scene is the beginning of the end for Darcy. :D
It's the first in a long line of preconceived ideas and beliefs of which he lets go.