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Taliesin
09-17-2004, 01:50 PM
Some while ago somebody asked me a interesting question about God's omnipotence.

It was: "Can God create a stone which He cannot lift?"
Both "Yes" and "No" mean that He is not omnipotent.


So, what other interesting paradoxes, questions, proofs and suchlike have you heard (and what do you think of this one)?

Tabac
09-17-2004, 08:07 PM
God wouldn't create a rock He couldn't lift. ;)

amuse
09-17-2004, 08:31 PM
i always figured god could choose not to lift it. :)

crisaor
09-18-2004, 04:59 PM
I think omnipotence in this case is not contradictory, because by doing that action he would impose restrictions on it. Clearly, omnipotence is not viewed as the ability to cancel abilities, so this is not the case IMO. Anyway, I'm sure that given the common attributes associated to God, he'd have no problem in trascending such paltry things as human paradoxes.

Tabac
09-19-2004, 10:13 AM
Anyway, I'm sure that given the common attributes associated to God, he'd have no problem in trascending such paltry things as human paradoxes.
We should not apply human experience, laws and abilities to those of God.

crisaor
09-19-2004, 01:51 PM
I'm not quite following you there Tabac, care to elaborate? :)

subterranean
09-20-2004, 09:01 PM
suppose tabac means that human's experiences, laws and abilities could excess in paradoxes since those things have limits, but not in the case of God.

amuse
09-21-2004, 09:39 AM
:)

s10cr

subterranean
09-21-2004, 08:18 PM
O cmon amuse, i don't do codes and symbols translation

amuse
09-22-2004, 11:39 AM
:) !! :) it does look cryptic, doesn't it? oopsies.

s10cr = stupid 10 character rule...since one can't post a smiley and leave it there to shine alone (a message appears saying you have to have at least 10 characters in your reply).

Ickmeister
09-25-2004, 06:41 AM
I suppose God could make a rock big enough so that the human nature of Jesus couldn't lift it.

Jester
10-10-2004, 01:58 AM
Maybe God couldn't make the rock, he'd just made the stuff that made the rock therefore a pardox like that doesn't pertain to God

Sakkarah
10-19-2004, 02:33 AM
im sure he could work out for a few months, eat plenty of protein and then he would be able to. An anthropomorphic god conceptualized by man is flawed to begin with. Our notions of beauty, as well as the human beliefs pertaining to the relationship between matter on a molecular level, which gives us the sense of autonomous behavior, are egoistic.

subterranean
10-19-2004, 08:19 PM
Sakkarah, I dont really get your point there

Sakkarah
10-20-2004, 12:57 AM
HTML follows a fundamental set of rules that are determined by a higher order: logic.
But the world doesnt emulate HTML.
Mans interpretation of beaty is expressed through perfection or near perfection.
Our expression of God emulates our perception of beaty as well as strength.
I direct your attention to Zeus.

Stanislaw
10-21-2004, 11:14 AM
God could make the rock, then he could make a larger rock, then he could grow stronger... etc. maybe he is too busy doing that and that is why it takes so long to answer our prayers. lol, just kidding, didn't mean to offend