The Cure

[crisaor]

Recently, Robert Smith announced that the band is working on an album to be released in 2004 with the producer of Limp Bizkit, Korn, and Slipknot.
My question is, how do you think this next album is gonna turn out?

[den]

I'm indifferent. I may hear a snippet of their new stuff when it comes out and take a few mo's to try to appreciate, but heLl they've sold `Pictures of You' to Hewlett Packard, so this mainstream crap just makes me yawn when I hear them.

It's hard enough to stay awake when watching brain numbing tv, nevermind all the commercials. When musicians sell-out I tune out. :p

[Jay]

I'm sorry, who? :o

[subterranean]

It's The Cure Jay.. :rolleyes:

And who is the producer of Limpbizkit, Korn and Slipknot anyway? But actually my vote is it will suck as suck as it can..:P
I use the 3 bands as the refference

[Jay]

Never heard of I'm afraid. Well, it MIGHT ring a bell somewhere ... VERY very very silently...

[subterranean]

you should check it out...
I mean you could do better than evanesence (however it spelled) ;)

[Jay]

HEY! What's wrong with Evanescence? *getting off topic again*

[Diceman]

It'll suck. With the exception of the song from The Crow soundtrack, The Cure has gone steadily downhill since The Head On The Door.

... IMVHO, of course.

[subterranean]

Well Jay.....nothing actually :rolleyes: ;) :)

Almost nothing..

[IWilKikU]

I've never been able to get into the Cure, although I like some other bands that are in their same genre

[crisaor]

Originally posted by subterranean
And who is the producer of Limpbizkit, Korn and Slipknot anyway? But actually my vote is it will suck as suck as it can..:P
I use the 3 bands as the refference
I don't know who he is, but I think the same, because of the reference you use.

[Koa]

Reading the title of the thread I thought AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!

I love the cure.

Reading the thread I have nothing to say... I don't like discussions on 'how it's going to be' cos I have no clue about how it will be.

[crisaor]

Hey Koa, what's your favourite album?
(Question for everyone also)

[subterranean]

I don't have any fav album, since I don't really dig them, but my fav songs are:

-why can't i be you
-cut here
-high
-just like heaven

[crisaor]

Originally posted by Diceman
It'll suck. With the exception of the song from The Crow soundtrack, The Cure has gone steadily downhill since The Head On The Door.
... IMVHO, of course.
Don't you like Disintegration? Their finest work if you ask me. :)

[Koa]

Originally posted by den
[B]I'm indifferent. I may hear a snippet of their new stuff when it comes out and take a few mo's to try to appreciate, but heLl they've sold `Pictures of You' to Hewlett Packard, so this mainstream crap just makes me yawn when I hear them.
]

Is it the same song though? I mean, the words seem different to me... Maybe it's just a part I don't remember, it's been ages since I last listened to it. And great songs are great whoever uses them.

Crisaor, albums... I haven't heard them all, but out of those I know I'd banally say Disintegration, though I can't really listen to it without geting more depressed than I usually am (especially 2 absolute masterpieces like Pictures of You and Prayers For Rain). I also love Bloodflowers even if many early fans don't seem to like it (I'd say I got into the Cure with that, before that I didn't care to listen to them for fear of liking them too much :rolleyes: ), and I have a soft spot for The Head On The Door.
Instead, I couldnt listen to Wild Moods Swings and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me more than once...

Hey, what's the song of The Crow?

[den]

Koa they used the Cure's `Burn' in The Crow...

So you've seen that HP commercial? They've manipulated it somewhat to make it `fit' the continuity of the commercial.

"A PART OF 'PICTURES OF YOU' HAS BEEN USED IN THE NEW HEWLETT PACKARD AD RUNNING IN THE USA... AND IN EUROPE 'INBETWEEN DAYS' IS FEATURED IN A FIAT PUNTO (car) AD... 'JOIN THE DOTS' HURRY UP AND BE..."

above quote from:
http://www.thecure.com/home.html

`Lullaby' that's one of my fav song's of theirs, love the video for it too. And Boy's Don't Cry, Why Can't I be You? and it goes on.. they were on David Letterman in November I think it was...

[Koa]

Burn... is it on an album? I think the name sounds familiar...

The commercial...well I recognised the music immediately (curiously, I first got a melancholic feeling before my mind found the title of the song...), but at first I thought it was sung by someone else, with other words... I have never listened to it carefully, next time I will (though i always change the channel when adverts are on...)

Never heard In-between days (one of my favourites!!!) though... I'll watch out for it... *learnt to drive on the Fiat Punto of the damn driving school* :D

I don't like 'why can't I be you'... dunno why :rolleyes:

[den]

Ha! Fiat Punto.. friend of mine in Scotland has one, he thinks it's a piece of crap, they're so tiny, really scary to drive.

[Koa]

tiny????????????????so is it true that in the USA and Canada cars are huge...that's an average car for me, not too small, and of average quality i guess...I mean, a common one. The most common piece of crap was Fiat Panda, half of the Italian population had one, my mum too (it died when i got my driving licence...well it died in my arms almost :D), basicaly if you went to fast it sounded like it was going to break and open :D

There's a very tiny kind of car so in fashion here...well, people who drive that are considered posh girl or gays... and everybody makes fun of them :D

Back to the cure guys... no I'm not going to wonder which car they drive... Wait, Mint Car is a song I can't stand :D

[subterranean]

By the way, i think Cure's new producer is Ross Robinson.

[Koa]

Great to make his acquaintance... :D

(in other words, who the hell is he? ;))

[subterranean]

:D

[Koa]

I'm having a Cure-phase. Which is not exactly a happy thing, maybe I'm influenced by the common stereotype but they make me so depressed, infact I mostly listen to them if I'm depressed already, it kinda helps let it out.

Today I listened to part of Wish, part of Faith and part of Pornography. Damn, in these last 2 I love that early-80s-rock-feeling...some insisted sounds kinda reminded me a bit of Joy Division.

Then I printed some lyrics from their site cos it's really hard to make out words out of Smith's peculiar voice, and I also notice they use a lot of words I don't know or I'm not too familiar with.
Then I had to do a stupid thing... Copy some of those lyrics. Yes I mean copy on paper, it felt like some kind of waste of time (when I was supposed to be studying...well I'm able to invent any pastime in those occasions :D), but I really felt a need to write down those words, spell them, to feel them better in my head. I love it to see lyrics stretched on a page, like a poem. Old discussion, to me lirics are poetry.

I wonder how can a human being be so poetic... I noticed reasons why I feel the Cure so deep and sad... In most songs there's a sense of loss, they feel like the good song to end a relationship... or to think about your big love of 30 years ago (that's how I feel Last Dance)...infact there's a constant feeling of the past, the passing of time, which is something I'm personally very bothered about (one of my favourite quotes is yesterday I got so old I felt like I could die) . And death comes out at times above everything, somehow another reminder of the passing of time. Over and over we die one after the other...

Stylistically, especially in Wish and Bloodflowers, there's a lot of 'dialogues', things like 'she said' 'I said'... And they use a lot of girl's names... A special mention for 'A letter to Elise', I'm moved to tears when a poet uses that silly insignificant name. (Time for the coming-out, that's my name...Well, with -a instead of -e at the end). And all the small details, movement of people, concrete elements that appear...I said several times on the personal poetry forum that I love little concrete elements in poetry, they are a nice touch (while I'm so hopelessly abstract instead....)

Ok I'm sure noone needed my analysis but I'm in a poetic-Cure-day apparently...:o

[Koa]

Sorry again, I love this one so much...

Siamese Twins

I chose an eternity of this
Like falling angels
The world disappeared
Laughing into the fire
Is it always like this?
Flesh and blood and the first kiss
The first colours
The first kiss

We writhed under a red light
Voodoo smile
Siamese twins
A girl at the window looks at me for an hour
Then everything falls apart
Broken inside me
It falls apart

The walls and the ceiling move in time
Push a blade into my hands
Slowly up the stairs
And into the room
Is it always like this?

Dancing in my pocket
Worms eat my skin
She glows and grows
With arms outstretched
Her legs around me...

In the morning I cried

Leave me to die
You won't remember my voice
I walked away and grew old
You never talk
We never smile
I scream
You're nothing
I don't need you any more
You're nothing

It fades and spins
Fades and spins...

Sing out loud
We all die!!!
Laughing into the fire...

Is it always like this?

[azmuse]

as Koa converts az...

Seriously, :) I've only heard them once or twice, and "poetic" doesn't do what you wrote up there justice. (Had NO idea.) And how wonderful to hear your name, and be Touched so far away, in both distance and time, and well, Everything...

[Koa]

Eh?:confused: Me a bit dumb but well, I'm glad if someone is touched, I like to spread my artistic convinctions around ;)

It's nice to share :)

[azmuse]

Yuch! Am unclear Again; meant re: crying when you heard "a letter to Elise". Feel clueless like earlier in the a.m., when called gas works due to leak...only to find out the pilot light in the stove was off. (!!)

[Koa]

Yessss....whatever :D

[crisaor]

On the "selling songs" issue, I don't wanna be The Cure's advocate (they don't need it and I suck at it) but maybe the songs are property of the record company, and they sold them. It happens. Luckily, I haven't seen any of those commercials you mention. I'd probably freak out. :eek:

Originally posted by Koa
Crisaor, albums... I haven't heard them all, but out of those I know I'd banally say Disintegration, though I can't really listen to it without geting more depressed than I usually am (especially 2 absolute masterpieces like Pictures of You and Prayers For Rain).
Yes. I think Disintegration is a sort of culmination of their previous albums, as if all the time they were heading into that direction, always up and forward, evolving. Everytime I hear it, it's like an endless song that sends out waves of sweet melancholy, never stopping. I feel as if the whole disc was recorded continuously (kinda like Abbey Road, another jewel).


Originally posted by Koa
I'm having a Cure-phase. Which is not exactly a happy thing, maybe I'm influenced by the common stereotype but they make me so depressed, infact I mostly listen to them if I'm depressed already, it kinda helps let it out.
I wonder how can a human being be so poetic... I noticed reasons why I feel the Cure so deep and sad... In most songs there's a sense of loss, they feel like the good song to end a relationship... or to think about your big love of 30 years ago (that's how I feel Last Dance)...infact there's a constant feeling of the past, the passing of time, which is something I'm personally very bothered about (one of my favourite quotes is yesterday I got so old I felt like I could die) . And death comes out at times above everything, somehow another reminder of the passing of time. Over and over we die one after the other...
I've felt like that in the past (still do in the present), exactly how you described it. I love that analysis, Koa. :)
BTW, have you ever listened to Tindersticks?

[crisaor]

In case anyone didn't know (I didn't) The Cure has released a 4 cd boxed-set with all their b-sides, rarities, and all that crap that they can't wait to sell and some of us can't wait to get.
Go here (http://www.thecure.com/news.html) for further details.

http://www.thecure.com/albumimages/coverjtd.jpghttp://www.thecure.com/albumimages/coverjtdback.jpg

[Koa]

Originally posted by crisaor


I've felt like that in the past (still do in the present), exactly how you described it. I love that analysis, Koa. :)
BTW, have you ever listened to Tindersticks? [/B]

Thanks... I think I've listened to the Tindersticks, but wasn't impressed...Don't tell me they're Cure-like? I didn't notice...

I didn't know about the rarities cd, but I'm still not familiar with a lot of their most known stuff, I'd get a rarity thing if I was really hopelessly into them... (I want a Depeche Mode rarity box, I really do... I also need a reason to open a DM thread :D) This doesn't mean that if you want to buy me it, I wouldnt appreciate it... :D:D:D

[crisaor]

Originally posted by Koa
Thanks... I think I've listened to the Tindersticks, but wasn't impressed...Don't tell me they're Cure-like? I didn't notice...
Well, not really. They're a bit more like Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds (with obvious differences). I mentioned them because of the depression thing. They excel at that. :)

Originally posted by Koa
I didn't know about the rarities cd, but I'm still not familiar with a lot of their most known stuff, I'd get a rarity thing if I was really hopelessly into them... (I want a Depeche Mode rarity box, I really do... I also need a reason to open a DM thread :D) This doesn't mean that if you want to buy me it, I wouldnt appreciate it... :D:D:D
Go ahead, open one, I'm sure nobody will mind. With all that threads going on (word game, necrophilia, brown paper bags and many others), a Depeche Mode thread would be a breath of fresh air. On the Cure box, I think it's more plausible that you buy us both one. I mean, the euro is more than three times my currency. :( Gotta say thanks for p2p music.

[Koa]

Where the hell are you then???
Well in my country Mr. Euro made the prices double, so it's unlikely I buy anything I don't really need. I've never bought many cds because they cost way too much, I have only the ones I really really wanted (well I have many more since some thing you mentioned exist... :D) (sssshhhh)

(wow my 666th post... the evil one ;))

[crisaor]

I'm in South America.
Mr. Euro is getting popular by the minute, have you noticed? What you should do is save all the euros you can (for as long as you can), and then go to live to a third world country. It triples your savings. :cool:
I wanted to do that, but hey, I was born in the wrong hemisphere. ;)

[Koa]

Oh, is it that country whose not happy destiny we (as Italy) will follow very soon?

Well I'm saving as many Mr. Euros as I can (currently working a lot and in the middle of an exams session...i wonder if I'll survive the whole month) to go and live in a civilised country...which by definition is more expensive than this one. I don't think Italy is far from being third world, ok economically we are somehow among the most powerful ones (and I really wonder how... the main industries are collapsing to pieces anyway, mainly because their owners managed to hide and steal amounts of money I can't even imagine), but as for mentality and general organisation, I feel like I live in the Middle Ages.:rolleyes:

[IWilKikU]

Yeah, I havn't been to very much of Italy (just Venice) but I wasn't real impressed. I would love to give Flourence a fair shot though! I used to really want to go to Rome, but the more I travel, the less impressive Rome looks from here.

[crisaor]

Originally posted by Koa
Oh, is it that country whose not happy destiny we (as Italy) will follow very soon?
Could be. Which one did you have in mind?


Originally posted by Koa
Well I'm saving as many Mr. Euros as I can (currently working a lot and in the middle of an exams session...i wonder if I'll survive the whole month) to go and live in a civilised country...which by definition is more expensive than this one. I don't think Italy is far from being third world, ok economically we are somehow among the most powerful ones (and I really wonder how... the main industries are collapsing to pieces anyway, mainly because their owners managed to hide and steal amounts of money I can't even imagine), but as for mentality and general organisation, I feel like I live in the Middle Ages.:rolleyes:
Italy still remains as a powerful country when it comes to economics (for the time being at least). I think the same could be said about organisation. You should see what the politicians have done to my country in the last decades. All the few things that work well were designed like 50 years ago!
Regarding mentality, well, what can I say, everyone makes mistakes. Some lucky societies do it less often and learn the most from them. This isn't the case, probably. I admit I was deeply surprised when Berlusconi won the elections, but I can't really talk. My country's elected much worse scum than that in the past years. :mad:

[azmuse]

as has mine.

[Koa]

let's not touch *that* topic, I get mad just at the thought... I lost the faith in my country when that happened.

[Koa]

Originally posted by crisaor
[B]Could be. Which one did you have in mind?

]

The one Madonna didn't want to cry for her :D:D:D

[crisaor]

Yep, that's the one. You don't have bonds of our debt, do you?

[Koa]

Not sure what you mean but I used to have a soft spot for that country (now I'm just less passionate, but I still like it.). You guys down there have a wonderful accent!
I used to want to move there during summer, cos you have winter...and be back here when it's winter, so I have winter all year :D

[crisaor]

Gracias, che. ;)
Winter all the year, what a wonderful thought.

[Koa]

I'm bringing back this old topic cos I got to know that the Cure will play at a festival in italy in june and i'm bloody tempted to go and see them!!!

[crisaor]

I envy you Koa. Go if you can. :)
Regarding the box set, I finally managed to check it out (thus making the owners of the cybercoffee I go to cover their expenses for several months), and sincerely I wasn't at all impressed (although I kinda saw it coming). The songs are pretty much more of the same, which is alright of course, but clearly not worth the dough they're asking for it, and not that necessary either. Anyone would be better off with their albums. Nevertheless, I did find some nice jewels, in case anyone is interested: Do the Hansa, A few hours after this..., Snow in summer, To the sky. Those are the box highlights in my opinion. The first 2 cds are fairly good, but then the quality drops dramatically in the last 2. On a special note, their cover of Young Americans is by far the worst theme of the box, and worthy of a place among the worst covers ever. Pity. Their Doors cover is alright though.

[emily655321]

*pouts* not discussing the new album. It's gonna suck suck suck. Blah.

To quote South Park...
Stan: "Robert Smith of the Cure!"
Jesus: "Our Savior!"

[Koa]

oooh quoting...me doesnt like south park, so no thread about it :P

[emily655321]

Never fear, Koa, I'm not demanding a quoting thread. Don't like it nearly as much as the Simpsons, but if you can get through the gross stuff there is always a really sensible and moral lesson (if you could call it that) at the end of each episode.

[Gadget Girl]

Oh man, I like the songs of The Cure even if they are so "old" band. I find their music kinda... emotional; how the lead singer sings, y'know. He feels what he sings. *laughs* My favorite song in their band is "Just Like Heaven".

[papayahed]

So how did that album do?

[crisaor]

Didn't like it at all.

[Koa]

LOL
I listened to that one like twice and never really gave it a chance...

Been really into Faith, the song and just occasionally the whole album, as of late...

I still think they're one of the greates bands of all time :eek: