Nothing gold can stay

[fayefaye]

Nature's first green is gold
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

I was just thinking about this book I read aaaaaaggges ago called The Outsiders. Anyone read it?

[sloegin]

Do they go around stabbing each other with switchblades?

[fayefaye]

Not exactly... but they do sorta belong in gangs..

[sloegin]

Does one of them go to a hospital and his friends bring him a switchblade, which he places under his pillow?

[fayefaye]

I don't want to put in spoilers. A couple go to hospital, but I don't remember anything about a switchblade. you read it or not?

[sloegin]

I think so. Long long ago...when dirt was okay to eat, and tasted good.

[fayefaye]

Yeah, I read it when I was a kid too. (guessing that's what you mean. I was still to old to eat dirt though.) Still, pretty good book.

[sloegin]

You are never to old to eat dirt.

[sloegin]

I guess it is one of those, 'open minded' things.

[fayefaye]

well, I was never young enough to eat dirt either. It's a closed minded thing.

[sloegin]

Your todo list must be very long.

[piquant]

Where is that poem you started with from? I know I've read it, but it slips away from me. I've never ate dirt either (purposely). My to do list is very long. Eating dirt isn't on it.

[Looeess]

Now there's a blast from the past - I mean both the poem and The Outsiders. :rolleyes:

The poem is by Robert Frost called (funnily enough) "Nothing Gold Can Stay".

[sloegin]

You people don't know what you're missing. Oh well, more for me.

[fayefaye]

It's sort of a sad poem, don't you think?

[piquant]

Yeah, it's the sort of poem that makes you die a little when you read it. It just opens up the well of sorrow that is transcience. Time is such a disease.

[fayefaye]

makes me feel like I'm slowly dying....

[Jay]

Well, aren't we?

[fayefaye]

Yes, but I hate to realise that.

[fayefaye]

Jay, what's the difference between living and dying? The moment you're born. You start living. You start dying. The two are synonymous.

[star blue]

shoot me, please.

[fayefaye]

Apparently sloegin knows an awful lot about guns. Get him. I don't think I could shoot somebody. Why would you want me to anyway? [I'm sure I'm a terrible shot. It would be slow and painful]

[fayefaye]

ok, I know. I think being alive entails a feeling of being free, that you don't have if you're dying. Somebody can be alive, and feel like they're dying because they can't do what they want. Similarly, somebody on the brink of death can still feel alive, if they feel like they can do what they want with their life. If that makes sense. Jay, are your exams quite over?? dammit, I miss the missing forumers!!

[John Shaft]

I totally interpreted it differently. I thought it was focused on the lost of innocence throughout ones course in life. Anyone else? Why would Johnny want him to stay gold as in to be alive? That doesnt seem to flow.

[fayefaye]

No, you interpreted it the same way as the rest of us. We just have a tendency to stray and start discussing other ideas. Sometimes related, sometimes not....

[dallyzgirl26]

i thought thats what johnny meant too, was to stay young, and a have an interesting fact. In 1999, popular punk band 'New Found Glory' released an album titled 'Nothing Gold Can Stay'. The first song on the CD quoted 'The Outsiders' movie.
It begans:
Johnny: "It's like the mist is what's pretty, you know? All gold and silver."
Ponyboy: "Yeah, man."
Johnny: "Too bad it can't stay that way all the time."
Ponyboy: "Nothin' gold can stay."

And then the rest of the song plays after it.