Two works by Poe decoded. Announcement!!

[yanni]

Sonnet to Zante:
Fair isle, that from the fairest of all flowers,
Thy gentlest of all gentle names dost take!
How many memories of what radiant hours
At sight of thee and thine at once awake!
How many scenes of what departed bliss!
How many thoughts of what entombed hopes!
How many visions of a maiden that is
No more- no more upon thy verdant slopes!
No more! alas, that magical sad sound
Transforming all! Thy charms shall please no more-
Thy memory no more! Accursed ground
Henceforth I hold thy flower-enameled shore,
O hyacinthine isle! O purple Zante!
"Isola d'oro! Fior di Levante!"


A series of coincidences brought about the decoding first of the Sonnet and, five years later, of Al Aaraaf.
Inbetween following "classic" riddles, all interrelated and very relevant, were encounterd and finally solved:

D'Anastasy, the "armenian" alchemy papyri collector, consul(1826-?) of Sweden and Norway to Egypt
Cagliostro -Balsamo and "his" Rite of Mizraim
Comte Saint Germain, minister of war of Luis XV and XVI
The designer of the great seal of the USA, a friend and advisor of Ben.Franklin and G. Washington .
The affair of the queen's necklace (1784-1785) that brought about the french revolution (1789-1790)
The Stuart jewels "discovered" by Walter Scott.

A few words on the poems themselves:
Both refer to Zante* and "tell" on Edgar's younger and romantic years that ended some years before the Sonnet was written.
Hence the difference in style: Aaraaf written propably 1826-28 , secretive and elaborated, lengthy, almost epic, a product of the mind, the Sonnet, written in a day, end of 1836, short and sentimental, a product of a troubled yet sincere soul mourning a death that deeply affected him.
The Sonnet refers indeed to the death of young woman, wife of a man Poe had to contact during his diplomatic mission to the Levant early 1827. They greatly impressed Poe and hence, when he learned of the 1835 murder that included both her and other members of the man's family, his world totally collapsed.

Will be answering posts by members who have studied Edgar's life and poetry and raise specific questions on the two poems only.
Will not be revealing details or solutions of said riddles: A book will hopefully be published once a competent (and willing and daring) editor-publisher is found and this information will onlt be revealed there.


*After the fall of Venice to the french, a succesion of protectors ruled the island of Zante (jacobine french and russians-allies of the Ottomans then- imperial napoleonic french and finally english 1809). Zante joined Modern Greece in 1864.
Greece was liberated after four centuries of Ottoman occupation by the war for independence 1821-1827.

[Tis]

As a student of Poe, his works, his life and his even more revealing correspondence with friends, enemies and life time associates, after 47 years, I remain perpetually amused by the persistent attempts to add enigmatic elements and mystery to a historic personality already so singularly unique.

Of more recent revelations to be rediscovered, among the mysterious, long lost manuscripts of Mr. Poe, are the Beale Papers as characterized by Mr. Robert Ward in his January 2002 publication, The Last Haunting of Edgar Allan Poe. I have found Mr. Ward’s work interesting, exciting and even fascinating. Alas... my own personal exposure to every readily available facet and varying scholarly opinion of Mr. Poe’s existence that I have been able lay my hands on, forces much caution in this regard.

As to the two poems of interest, Al Aaraaf and Sonnet – To Zante, each has had several separate publications and many of these were printed with revisions, whether detailed or minor. In many printings of Al Aaraaf, only excerpts of the poem were printed. To which do you refer?

The first appearance of this poem was in, Al Aaraaf, Tamerlane and Minor Poems in late 1829 by Hatch & Dunning of Baltimore. By Poe’s own hand, he reveals the subject of this poem as the newly discovered star that, for about 18 months, shined brighter than Jupiter before it disappeared, never to be seen again. The observer/discoverer was Tycho Brahe (1546-1601), a Danish nobleman who made significant contributions to Astronomy. His observation of this phenomenon occurred in 1572, which we now know was a supernova.

While Poe maintained varying interests that included an astonishingly broad range of subject matter, these interests merely served to provide substance for his base passion, poetry. To Poe, no subject matter was sacred or exempt from molding and manipulation by his extraordinary grasp of the language, his gifted imagination and a profound intellect. According to Poe himself, Al Aaraaf is a place known to ‘Arabians’ as an interim existence between Heaven and Hell and located in the star of Tycho Brahe.

You characterize Al Aaraaf as “secretive and elaborated, lengthy, almost epic, a product of the mind...” and suggest its origins may be between 1826-1828. However accurate it may be, Poe himself included this poem in his 1845 publication of The Raven and Other Poems under the section entitled ‘Poems Written in Youth’, pages 56 through 73. Your estimate would have made Poe from 17-19 years of age which appears reasonable given that our dear Edgar spent about 23 months serving from May 26 1827 to April 15, 1829 in the United States Army under the name of Edgar A Perry.

It is certainly conceivable that serving in a peacetime posting to Fort Moultrie on Sullivan’s Island in South Carolina and Fort Monroe in Virginia would provide him sufficient free time to write this poem. However, while it is lengthy and comparatively elaborate (almost to the point of disjointed), in terms of its length, Poe himself later admitted in his 1846 essay, The Philosophy of Composition:

“What we term a long poem is, in fact, merely a succession of brief ones — that is to say, of brief poetical effects.”

Then again in his 1848 essay, The Poetic Principle:

“I hold that a long poem does not exist. I maintain that the phrase, "a long poem," is simply a flat contradiction in terms.”

Consequently, one would likely find that its length or its ornate or convoluted nature is indicative of nothing more than the youthful efforts of a passionate, young and brilliant dreamer to establish literary recognition of his potential talents. Likewise, anything viewed as secretive or coded within the text is likely born, not in the exquisite mind and imagination of a young Edgar Poe, but rather in the mind of the “discoverer”.

As regarding the Sonnet – To Zante, I would agree that it is short and sentimental. That it refers to the death of a young woman and wife of a man he had met on a diplomatic mission to the Lavant in 1827 is absurd. Edgar Allan Poe left the United States only once in his lifetime on June 22, 1815 at the age of six years on the ship Lothair for England with his foster parents, John and Frances Allan and Frances’ sister Anne M. Valentine. They returned from England aboard the Martha on July 22, 1820 when Poe was eleven years of age. During this five year, one month stay, Poe is known to have been schooled in geography, spelling, Catechism and perhaps even in the classics possibly including Latin and Greek. That Poe once served as a diplomat in 1827 at the age of 18 years is ridiculous.

By February 1837, one month after this poem appeared in the Southern Literary Messenger, Poe, with his wife and her family were living in New York.

Best Regards,

[yanni]

My pleasure for being among connoiseurs is expressed firstly and my answer next:

An elaborate reply by a declared Poe devotee who apparently doubts his idol's claims (that he did in fact join a "greek expedition") and therefore focuses on the detail avoiding the long view.

Thus, your introductory : "I remain perpetually amused by the persistent attempts to add enigmatic elements and mystery to a historic personality already so singularly unique" deserving only Poe's "secrecy shall knowledge be in the environs of heaven-Al Aaraaf " and nothing else.

Furthermore (your "comment", my -reply)

"As to the two poems of interest, Al Aaraaf and Sonnet – To Zante, each has had several separate publications and many of these were printed with revisions, whether detailed or minor. In many printings of Al Aaraaf, only excerpts of the poem were printed. To which do you refer?"
-The Sonnet as per text in my announcement , Al Aaraaf as per the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library.

"By Poe’s own hand, he reveals the subject of this poem as the newly discovered star that, for about 18 months, shined brighter than Jupiter before it disappeared, never to be seen again. The observer/discoverer was Tycho Brahe (1546-1601), a Danish nobleman who made significant contributions to Astronomy. His observation of this phenomenon occurred in 1572, which we now know was a supernova."
-Not at all! The text refers to events taking place in Greece in 1827 including Navarino which Edgar witnessed on board USS Constitution. Edgar covered up his role in his "expedition to Greece" when he realised upon his return to the USA that "things" had changed.
He does it also later on by obviously lying again for his 1825-29 whereabouts:
[Poe provided Rufus W. Griswold with this autobiographical note for Griswold's upcoming anthology The Poets and Poetry of America (1842). MEMORANDUM. Memo. Born January, 1811. ......In 1825 went to the Jefferson University at Charlottesville, Va., where for 3 years I led a very dissipated life the college at that period being shamefully dissolute. Dr. Dunglison of Philadelphia, President. Took the first honors, however, and came home greatly in debt. Mr. A. refused to pay some of the debts of honor, and I ran away from home without a dollar on a quixotic expedition to join the Greeks, then struggling for liberty. Failed in reaching Greece, but made my way to St. Petersburg, in Russia. Got into many difficulties, but was extricated by the kindness of Mr. H. Middleton, the American consul at St. P. Came home safe in 1829.....

"Al Aaraaf is a place known to ‘Arabians’ as an interim existence between Heaven and Hell and located in the star of Tycho Brahe."
-By "Al Aaraaf" Edgar means Angelo the embassador (" my embassy is given") ie himself "the distant stranger" (Araf="Afar, afar the wandering star")

"...our dear Edgar spent about 23 months serving from May 26 1827 to April 15, 1829 in the United States Army under the name of Edgar A Perry. It is certainly conceivable that serving in a peacetime posting to Fort Moultrie on Sullivan’s Island in South Carolina and Fort Monroe in Virginia..."
-Planted details in abundance my dear Watson : Edgar first used the alias Henri Rennet and left the Allens early March 1827 if not earlier. (Captain Jonathan P. Miller returned to the United States in 1826 and through the efforts of the New York, he was able to collect $17,500 worth of various relief sup plies, which he look back to Greece onboard the ship "Chancellor", on March 5, 1827. The same year two more ships, "Jane" and "Six Brothers," left New York harbor bound for Greece car rying various relief supplies of $25,000 in the aggregate. At about the same time, two more shiploads of supplies totaling about $22,500 left the port of Philadelphia onboard the ships "Tontine" and "Levant," while from Boston the ship "Statesman" carried to Greece cargo worth over $ 11,500.All these relief provisions that contained food items, clothing, medical supplies and other necessi ties, were distributed primarily to the suffering Greek civilian popula tion, albeit soldiers and brigands stole some supplies upon the arrival of the cargo to Greece. On " January 2, 1827, Congressman Edward Livingston from Louisiana introduced a motion in Congress for the appropriation of $50,000 to purchase supplies for the needy people of Greece. His motion was defeated, but through private initiatives and fundraising activities $80,000 was collected in a combina tion of cash, food items and other in-kind aid.In 1827 and 1828 a total of eight shiploads of supplies and relief aid worth more than $150,000 (an extraordinary amount in today's standards) were dispatched to Greece and distributed by oversee ing officials to needy members of the civilian population)
Quoting other web source:
With a young friend, Ebenezer Burling, he endeavored to make his way, with scarcely a dollar in his pocket, to Greece, with the wild design of aiding in the Revolution then taking place. Burling soon repented his folly, and gave up the design when he had scarcely entered on the expedition. Mr. Poe persevered but did not succeed in reaching the scene of action; he proceeded, however, to St. Petersburgh, where, through deficiency of passport, he became involved in serious difficulties, from which he was finally extricated by the American Consul.

"Likewise, anything viewed as secretive or coded within the text is likely born, not in the exquisite mind and imagination of a young Edgar Poe, but rather in the mind of the “discoverer”."
-You "done it" again!

"As regarding the Sonnet – To Zante, I would agree that it is short and sentimental. That it refers to the death of a young woman and wife of a man he had met on a diplomatic mission to the L E vant in 1827 is absurd. ... That Poe once served as a diplomat in 1827 at the age of 18 years is ridiculous."
-Answering your decorative adjectives I advise that at least one archivial source wants his foster father Allen back in London in March 1823 together with Bentham and lords Eskin and Byron discussing with the greek representative Louriotis (of the revolutionary greek parliament) the possibility of a loan for the frigates ordered soon after to US shipyards and partly delivered later?
Allen is described therein as a "virtuous quaker".

Concluding:
The web provided the means so that secrecy becomes knowledge before "the environs of heaven".

[Tis]

As I have already confessed my reverence for Mr. Poe’s genius in the literary arts and, in no small measure, for his extraordinary intellect for subject matter real or imagined, esoteric or simplistic, I will also readily confess that I am no Poe scholar. After 47 years of study interrupted only by a brief period in the service of my country, I have enjoyed the pleasure of exposure to a broad range of opinion. To some degree, I frequently find myself at odds with many scholars with whom I hold a profound respect and admiration. However ironic this appears, generally, these conflicts tend to more reflect a difference of perspective than any significant disparity of substance. One of these differences deals directly with your presumed allegation that I doubt the words of my own “idol”.

In the study of any individual, particularly one of historical note, there is a persistency of failure in remaining objective, regardless of scholarship, when attempting to explain the substance of any particular attribute of the human animal. For example, while we Americans revere the genius of Thomas Jefferson in his conception of our Declaration of Independence, we also marvel at the fact that this man could have possibly conceived and written the words, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,...”, and, at the same instant, hold in his possession another human being as a slave. However conflicting and hypocritical this may be, it does not diminish one bit, the fundamental truth of the observation that all men are “created equal”.

To believe, to assert or to even suggest that I or you or anyone, need presume truth in facts as stated is as absurd as the notion that admiration for unique genius compels one to presume goodness, honesty and sublime benevolence toward all. Ridiculous! The last man to walk this planet with that measure of divinity was Jesus and, frankly, I have questions about that. In any case, these past 47 years has permitted me to be much more discriminating in my personal views toward Mr. Poe. His brief existence on this planet has been written about, debated over and taught in our schools for very near 200 years. He was neither a saint nor Satan, merely a man of uncommon genius struggling desperately for recognition among common men. That he died poor and unrewarded for his genius speaks not to the failure of Edgar Allan Poe, but rather to the dullness of his contemporaries and those of us left to adore his genius.

I found nothing in your post to suggest a re-examination of my facts was warranted and, in all candor, your references to Captain Jonathan P. Miller appear completely disconnected with Mr. Poe in terms of direct association.

I am quite familiar with your quote regarding a young Ebenezer Burling. The quote is from a biography of Mr. Poe published by the Baltimore Saturday Visitor on July 29, 1843 and written by Joseph E Snodgrass. A goodly portion of this biography was taken straight from another article in the Saturday Museum of Philadelphia and is chocked full of errors and misstated details, whether intentional or unintentional.

By any judgment, the details expounded in this article can be demonstrated to be in error and misapplication through a summary review of the timing of Mr. Poe’s own correspondence, his publications and his whereabouts throughout the years in question. I would simply refer you to the Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore website at http://www.eapoe.org

In conclusion, sir, it appears I need only reassert my amusement at this repeated attempt to add mystery where none is needed. I do not expect to alter your conclusions nor do I wish to. Many decades have now passed for any number of mysteries, conspiracies and unwarranted conjecture and beliefs that still persist today in the absence of demonstrable evidence. I do not expect this to be any different, but in any case, go for it... give it all you got.

Best Regards,

[yanni]

Avoiding evidence presented with eloquent-admittedly-verbosity, unable to support the "mislabeling" characterization you gave to the "announcement" and to justify the decorative adjectives you indirectly assigned to "yanni the greek", you then select an ironic yet hasty withdrawal from the- 47 years?- issue.
Do you then ignore, Sir,the graces of Lygeia, the true reasons Edgar decided to include her in his excellent Al Aaraaf?
Alas, if no real interest exists in this shrine of american literature, where then can a poor greek amateur express his innermost admiration for Mr Poe?

Last but not least:
To Your "By any judgment, the details expounded in this article can be demonstrated to be in error and misapplication through a summary review of the timing of Mr. Poe’s own correspondence" the folowing is sufficient evidence to the contrary:
1827 - March 25 (letter text) RCL#015 .
E. G. Crump (Dinwiddie Co., VA) to Poe (en route to Boston?). Stanard, pp. 52-53; Phillips, 1:270-271; Allan, 1:200; Quinn, p. 115-116. MS at DLC (Ellis-Allan). (CL41-9; CL48-15.) [Poe seems never to have received Crump's letter since he had already left John Allan's household a week earlier. On the back of the letter, John Allan wrote the note: "Edw'd G. Crump, Mar. 25 1827 [[/]] to E. A. Poe, alias Henri Le Rennet." The letter was first printed by Killis Campbell in "Unpublished Documents Relating to Poe's Early Years," Sewanee Review, April 1912, XX, pp. 201-212 (with this letter appearing on p. 209).
1827 - March (?) RCL#015a
Mrs. F. Allan (Richmond) to Poe (en route to Boston?) (Two letters). Noted by Whitty (1911), p. xxx; and Phillips, 1:294.

In other words: The exact date of Edgar's departure from the Allens, ie the date for his embarkation to Greece, is seriously doubted by "the timing of Mr. Poe’s own correspondence".
Sorry!

[yanni]

As an expression of appreciation to the few members who witnessed the above exchange with the abrupt end, the interpretation of beautiful "Nesace" will follow next.

[yanni]

Who was "Nesace"?

As "nesace" means "small island" in greek and Zante is indeed a small island then, if the old rules still apply and two thing equal to a third are also between themselves equal, Edgar by Nesace meant Zante but did his utmost to hide it hermeticaly.

In fact he not only hides Zante behind Nesace but to further confuse the issue, he defines early in the text of Al Aaraaf that Zante is a flower or a perfume("And thy most lovely purple perfume, Zante! Isola d'oro!- Fior di Levante!")
He furthermore invents another code name for her: "Ianthe" of Part II ("Ianthe, dearest, see- how dim that ray! How lovely 'tis to look so far away!" and " Ianthe, beauty crowded on me then, and half I wish'd to be again of men." and "But, list, Ianthe! when the air so soft, Fail'd, as my pennon'd spirit leapt aloft,Perhaps my brain grew dizzy- but the world,I left so late was into chaos hurl'd-").
Thus
a)the few who understood italian also knew Zante the island and "flower of the Levant" as known then but, not knowing greek, would not relate "Nesace" to Zante.
b)the majority of his then readers and "censors" to be, spoke neither italian nor greek, ie understood nothing .
c)For the very few that would brake the other code names, he invents Ianthe or Iante (I believe he uses this alternative also along with all the others in a version of Al Aaaraaf) to confuse them.
Indeed very few knew then that John Polidori's origins were from Zante and that his heroess ("The Vampyre", 1821) Ianthe, sucked dry by a blood thirsty Byron, meant indeed Zante.

Edgar personifies Nesace-Zante-Ianthe to the maiden murdered as above in the spring of 1835 on the "verdant slopes" of the island and proceeds then to disclose in english that indeed Zante, the "Fair isle, that from the fairest of all flowers..." was all along in mind.
He then decides to curse Zante for the fate of the "fair maiden" of his romantic and heroic youth and then changes course in life by making the Sonnet the last thing he publishes before his departure from the Southern Literary Magazin January 1837.




Poe's as well as Polidori's codes have apparently never been broken until now.

[yanni]

Subtracting about 20 own "views" from the 182 so far of the thread and some 40 or so by Tis, and dividing the remainder 132 by, say, 6 we get 22 "silent viewers".
Who are you, how can you remain silent if you are really interested for Edgar Poe?
Go ahead and ask your question 'cause its getting boring here!
Plenty more as above and better will be lost otherwise.

[Tis]

It appears that your lack of response is troubling and, honestly, I do regret that no one has taken the time to question you proposition that Edgar Poe has left some hidden message or code or cipher or some cryptic knowledge that only you have discovered.

Your initial premise that Edgar Poe left Richmond in early to mid March of 1827 for Boston with a young companion, Ebenezer Burling, may or may not be accurate. While I would not argue the date of his departure from Richmond, or even that he was using the name Henri Le Rennet, (Edgar was known to use other aliases as well), whether he was accompanied by an Ebenezer Burling adds nothing to your premise. It is well documented that he ended up in Baltimore, waiting for his poetic talents to be recognized.

You have also suggested, or at least inferred, that Edgar boarded the USS Constitution in Boston bound for Greece. A simple review of the ship’s calendar and logs for the USS Constitution will reveal that this United States battle frigate arrived in New York City on May 20, 1824 after spending 3 years and 17 days as the flagship of the Mediterranean Squadron having sailed from Boston, Massachusetts on May, 13, 1821 under the command of Captain Jacob Jones. There is no question of where Poe was at this time.

Upon her return to the United States, the USS Constitution spent approximately 5.5 months in New York City before departing on October 29, 1824 under the command of Captain Thomas Macdonough and did not return to the United States until July 4, 1828. This is more than a year from March of 1827. The USS Constitution was not a cruise ship, but rather an American man-o-war. I have seen no evidence to indicate that Poe, under any pseudonym, was in the United States Navy or sailed as a private citizen aboard this ship. Consequently, you are in error.

Why you even bother to mention Captain Jonathan P Miller at all is unfathomable. Raising money and supplies for the relief of revolutionary Greece is admirable, but you fail to tie the Captain and Edgar together in any clearly discernable manner.

The March 25, 1827 letter from E. G. Crump proves only that Edgar owed him money and that Mr. Crump himself was unaware the Edgar had left Richmond before the letter arrived. In terms of your proposition, this is at best neutral. It suggests nothing to support your premise.

The two letters you mention from Frances Keeling Valentine Allan to Poe dated March 1827, absolving him of guilt for his confrontation with John Allan were likely mailed to Poe’s family, known to be living in Baltimore because Poe is known to have had them in his possession at one time. They were supposedly passed to his cousin, Elizabeth Phillips by Poe, himself, following the death of Virginia Clemm Poe. Oh yes... I have also heard the long discredited tales of Poe writing his family from Europe and St. Petersburg. Neither are true and no authoritative scholars have shown these letters have ever surfaced.

In all, I suppose, there could be any number of reasons for a lack of interest, but honestly, your premise does leave one wondering what questions to ask. It needs much more clarity. Where are you headed with this? What is the point? Why should anyone care to be interested? Why should anyone care at all? Where is evidence, the details and how does Edgar fit into them? Is this your personal interpretation of these two poems? Do you possess any reasonable firm evidence beyond wishful thinking for your premise? Do you mean to say coded text or is this simply an example of Poe’s acrostics of which he was so fond?

In any case... I‘ll check in on you periodically to see how you are progressing. Best of luck... really! ;)

[yanni]

It's good to see you back on stage, dear Tis, however transparent your "Poe enthusiast" facade has become in the meantime. With Xmas approaching and relative additional energy requirements(!), I assume both your professional(!) as well as your personal agendas are heavy, so why waste time arguing instead of exchanging greetings and presents?
(Re your questions at he end of your last post, the answers are provided in first post of mine above)

To the enthusiast in you-there is a part, I know- the other silent viewers and the unknown hand that corrected my small orthos-many thanks- here below is a summary of Q-A's and the solution to another subriddle of Al Aaraaf for all to enjoy.

AL AARAAF AND THE SONNET TO ZANTE by E.A.Poe.
How do the two poems relate?
Both refer to Zante and "tell" on Edgar's romantic youth that ended some years before the Sonnet was written. Hence the difference in style: Aaraaf written propably 1826-28 , secretive and elaborated, lengthy, almost epic, a product of the mind, the Sonnet, written in a day, end of 1836, short and sentimental, a product of a troubled yet sincere soul mourning a death that deeply affected him.
The Sonnet refers indeed to the death of young woman, wife of a man Poe had to contact during his diplomatic mission to the Levant early 1827. They greatly impressed Poe and hence, when he learned of the 1835 murder that included both her and other members of the man's family, his world totally collapsed.

What inspired Edgar to write Al Aaraaf in the first place?The poem refers to events taking place in Greece in 1827 including Navarino which Edgar witnessed on board USS Constitution.

Who says so?
Edgar says so (see *text at the end of this post ) and so does USS Constitution's own itinerary which fully coincides with Edgar's claim to have visited Athens, the greek aegean islands and Asia Minor coast. The ship's diary further confirms various inexplicable casualties-dead and injured-after the battle on the way to Minorca, her station.

Why did he join the greek expedition?
At least one archivial source wants his foster father Allen back in London in March 1823 together with Bentham and lords Eskin and Byron discussing with the greek representative Louriotis (of the revolutionary greek parliament) the possibility of a loan for the frigates ordered soon after to US shipyards and partly delivered later.Allen is described therein as a "virtuous quaker".

When and how did Edgar leave the US for Greece?
Edgar first used the alias Henri Rennet and left the Allens early March 1827 if not earlier. (Captain Jonathan P. Miller returned to the United States in 1826 and through the efforts of the New York, he was able to collect $17,500 worth of various relief sup plies, which he look back to Greece onboard the ship "Chancellor", on March 5, 1827.

evidence from the web:
1827 - March 25 (letter text) RCL#015 . E. G. Crump (Dinwiddie Co., VA) to Poe (en route to Boston?). Stanard, pp. 52-53; Phillips, 1:270-271; Allan, 1:200; Quinn, p. 115-116. MS at DLC (Ellis-Allan). (CL41-9; CL48-15.) [Poe seems never to have received Crump's letter since he had already left John Allan's household a week earlier. On the back of the letter, John Allan wrote the note: "Edw'd G. Crump, Mar. 25 1827 [[/]] to E. A. Poe, alias Henri Le Rennet." The letter was first printed by Killis Campbell in "Unpublished Documents Relating to Poe's Early Years," Sewanee Review, April 1912, XX, pp. 201-212 (with this letter appearing on p. 209).
1827 - March (?) RCL#015a Mrs. F. Allan (Richmond) to Poe (en route to Boston?) (Two letters). Noted by Whitty (1911), p. xxx; and Phillips, 1:294.

additional evidence from the web :
With a young friend, Ebenezer Burling, he endeavored to make his way, with scarcely a dollar in his pocket, to Greece, with the wild design of aiding in the Revolution then taking place. Burling soon repented his folly, and gave up the design when he had scarcely entered on the expedition. Mr. Poe persevered but did not succeed in reaching the scene of action; he proceeded, however, to St. Petersburgh, where, through deficiency of passport, he became involved in serious difficulties, from which he was finally extricated by the American Consul.

Why did Edgar cover up his role later?
Edgar covered up his role in his "expedition to Greece" when he realised upon his return to the USA that "things" had changed.
He does it also later-on by obviously lying again for his 1825-29 whereabouts :
(autobiographical note for Griswold's upcoming anthology The Poets and Poetry of America 1842). MEMORANDUM. Memo. Born January, 1811. ......In 1825 went to the Jefferson University at Charlottesville, Va., where for 3 years I led a very dissipated life the college at that period being shamefully dissolute.... and I ran away from home without a dollar on a quixotic expedition to join the Greeks, then struggling for liberty. Failed in reaching Greece, but made my way to St. Petersburg, in Russia. Got into many difficulties, but was extricated by the kindness of Mr. H. Middleton, the American consul at St. P. Came home safe in 1829.....

Who was Al Aaraaf ?
By "Al Aaraaf" Edgar means Angelo the embassador (" my embassy is given") ie himself "the distant stranger" (Araf="Afar, afar the wandering star")

Who was Nesace?
As "nesace" means "small island" in greek and Zante is indeed a small island, obvioulsy Edgar by Nesace meant Zante but did his utmost to hide it hermeticaly. In fact he not only hid Zante behind Nesace but, to further confuse the issue, he defined early in the text of Al Aaraaf that Zante is a flower or a perfume("And thy most lovely purple perfume, Zante! Isola d'oro!- Fior di Levante!") He furthermore invented another code name for her: "Ianthe" of Part II ("Ianthe, dearest, see- how dim that ray! How lovely 'tis to look so far away!" and " Ianthe, beauty crowded on me then, and half I wish'd to be again of men." and "But, list, Ianthe! when the air so soft, Fail'd, as my pennon'd spirit leapt aloft,Perhaps my brain grew dizzy- but the world,I left so late was into chaos hurl'd-").
Thus
a)the few who understood italian also knew Zante the island and "flower of the Levant" as known then but, not knowing greek, would not relate "Nesace" to Zante.
b)the majority of his then readers and "censors" to be, spoke neither italian nor greek, ie understood nothing .
c)For the very few that would brake the other code names, he invents Ianthe or Iante (I believe he uses this alternative also along with all the others in a version of Al Aaaraaf) to confuse them.
Indeed very few knew then that John Polidori's origins were from Zante and that his heroess ("The Vampyre", 1821) Ianthe, sucked dry by a blood thirsty Byron, meant indeed Zante.
Edgar personifies Nesace-Zante-Ianthe to the maiden murdered as above in the spring of 1835 on the "verdant slopes" of the island and proceeds then to disclose in english that indeed Zante, the "Fair isle, that from the fairest of all flowers..." was all along in mind.
He then decides to curse Zante for the fate of the "fair maiden" of his romantic and heroic youth and then changes course in life by making the Sonnet the last thing he publishes before his departure from the Southern Literary Magazin January 1837.

*What part of Al Aaraaf confirms Edgar's presence on board the USS Consitution in the sea battel of Navarino?
Below is the most relative passage and its interpretation. It really is no "brainer" at all:

Spirits in wing, and angels to the view,A thousand seraphs burst th' Empyrean thro'
Young dreams still hovering on their drowsy flight-Seraphs in all but "Knowledge," the keen light
That fell, refracted, thro' thy bounds, afar,O Death! from eye of God upon that star:
Sweet was that error- sweeter still that death-Sweet was that error- even with us the breath
Of Science dims the mirror of our joy-To them 'twere the Simoon, and would destroy-
For what (to them) availeth it to know That Truth is Falsehood- or that Bliss is Woe?
Sweet was their death- with them to die was rife With the last ecstasy of satiate life-
Beyond that death no immortality-But sleep that pondereth and is not "to be'!-

Interpretation:
The "thousand seraphs" who faced the "Simoon" of the joined fleet guns and went to hell (burst th' Empyrean thro'), were really not seraphs afterall due to their ignorance (seraphs in all but "Knowledge," the keen light). It was furthermore God's own will (O Death! from eye of God upon that star) that made "our" guilt lighter and saved "our" lifes (Sweet was that error- sweeter still that death), "they" were infidels anyway whose faith did not promise life after death (Beyond that death no immortality) their lives did not "count" the same as "ours",..
(Edgar's youth is evident: He doesn't know that Paradise is common to christians and muslims alike).

The phrase "even with us the breath Of Science dims the mirror of our joy" tells of Edgar' s sadness for the sudden break up of diplomatic relations with Egypt, the "source of science" as it was widely believed then. Edgar' s "Tale of a mummy" is indicatory.


Merry Xmas and a happy New Year.

[Tis]

Yanni…

I sincerely regret that you feel that my questions are argumentative, I certainly do not intend them to be. However, if one is to assume you wish to publish your conclusions as non-fiction, I find it incredibly astonishing that you can seriously expect anyone, much less any serious fan of Poe, to presume facts based on conjecture and your own personal interpretations.

But, just so I understand this correctly. By your persistent repetition of undocumented ‘facts’ already offered and by repeating them frequently enough, is it the case that you expect others to accept, as valid, your proposition that Edgar sailed from Boston aboard the USS Constitution (an American warship) in very early March of 1827?

This is simply impossible because the USS Constitution left New York City on October 29, 1824 to serve as the flagship of the United States Mediterranean Squadron under the Command of Captain Thomas Macdonough. (Poe would have been about 15) The USS Constitution did not return to the United States until she pulled into Boston harbor on July 4, 1828 under the command of Captain Daniel Todd Patterson, Captain Macdonough having died at sea on a voyage back from Greece on a separate ship. The USS Constitution had not seen America in 3 years and 8 months.

Of course, since you know this proposition conflicts with the USS Constitution's calendar and log and, therefore, cannot possibly be true, your mention of Captain Jonathan P. Miller of the sailing ship “Chancellor” merely offers a vague inference that Edgar left Boston aboard the “Chancellor” on March 5, 1827, presumably under the pseudonym of Henri Le Rennet. Further, you suggest Poe, alias Rennet, left the “Chancellor” and was aboard the USS Constitution to witness the Revolution in Greece. Yet, there is substantial documentation to counter this claim while you continue to offer nothing to refute it beyond your own supposition.

This name Henri Le Rennet is a well known alias and French corruption of his brother’s name (William Henry Leonard Poe) that Edgar used to obscure his identity from gambling debts and possibly, even the law while he stayed in Baltimore before joining the Army. Secondly, the “Chancellor”, after sailing from Greece, arrived in Boston, not in Baltimore and Edgar is known to have been in Baltimore from early March through at least May 26, 1827. Your suggestion that he boarded the “Chancellor” is purely supposition and wishful conjecture for Poe is known to have been in Baltimore until he joined the United States Army under the name of Edgar A Perry.

How do we know he was in Baltimore? Sometime between early March and May 26, 1827, Poe personally wrote two untitled poems in the albums of Ms. Margaret Bassett and Ms. Octavia Walton, both of Baltimore. In addition, on October 20, 1827, one of Edgar’s poems, “Extract – Dreams” signed W. H. P. (his brother), is published in the Baltimore North American, while Edgar is known to be at Fort Independence, and not aboard the “Chancellor” headed for Greece.

Upon his five year enlistment, Edgar is sent to Fort Independence in Boston Harbor and assigned to Battery H of the 1st Artillery. His enlistment records show him as 5 ft. 8 in. in height, with grey eyes, brown hair and fair complexion. He lied about his age as 22 years, but he was actually only 18. His date of enlistment is 21 days or more after Jonathan P Miller has sailed for Greece on March 5, 1827. Poe remained at Fort Independence until October 31, 1827 when his unit was reassigned and set sail aboard the Brigantine "Waltham” and arrived at Fort Moultrie on Sullivan’s Island in Charleston, South Carolina on November 18, 1827.

How do we know he was in Boston? Poe had a booklet of poems published in Boston by Calvin F. S Thomas entitled Tamerlane and Other Poems under the name, ‘A Bostonian’. There were about 50 copies printed to be freely distributed. Today, only 12 copies are now known to exist.

From November 18, 1827 until December 10, 1827 Poe was stationed at Fort Moultrie where he is promoted to artificer and has his pay doubled to $10/month. On December 11, 1827 his battery sets sail for Fort Monroe in Old Point Comfort, Virginia and arrives on December 15, 1828. Here Poe attains the rank of Regimental Sergeant-Major. Poe remained in the military until his release on April 15, 1829.

These facts are very well documented and published by multiple scholars and directly conflict with your assumptions that appear, at best, wishful thinking, best guesses, and blind acceptance of facts not evidenced by material fact. You provide no material evidence beyond your own interpretations that, themselves, are at odds with the expressed intention of Edgar Allan Poe himself. As proof, see Poe’s letter to Isaac Lea dated May11-27, 1829, in which he clarifies the intent of Al Aaraaf.

Yanni, you are certainly free and welcome to express your own interpretations of the two poems in question. However, these are merely interpretations based on supposition and to offer them as anything more demands much more convincing evidence than you are offering here. Again, I regret that you feel this view is argumentative, but if you are truly hopeful of finding an enthusiastic publisher, you will need much more proof than you are offering here.

In any case, please accept my best wishes for a Merry Christmas and a healthful and Happy New Year.

Warm Regards,

[yanni]

I never said that Edgar left the US for Greece onboard the "Constitution", so why waste half of your posts and most of your arguments saying I did?
(the question has already become rhetoric but I'll answer it once more)

From the start I maintained that he arrived somehow privately in Greece, possibly by Miller's "Chancellor" or by another boat and, as he writes in Al Aaraaf, visited Athens and the Parthenon, the greek isles and the coast of Asia Minor, then witnessed Navarino and propably returned to the US on board the Constitution.
You are asking me to provise "concrete evidence"-propably a receipt for money paid for his passage huh?-for what purpose exactly? To contradict what Edgar himself writes?
The mere fact that there has never-ever been an interpretation for Al Aaraaf- apart from the "astronomer Tycho Brahe observation of a supernova", in itself not an interpretation but a confession of inability to understand the poem - or The Sonnet to Zante is not evidence enough?

Bypassing yourself evidence presented re Allen's involvement in the greek frigates order, you then insist on Edgar's Baltimore presence yet "evidence" provided is slim at best : "S o m e t i m e between early March and May 26, 1827, Poe personally wrote two untitled poems in the albums of Ms. Margaret Bassett and Ms. Octavia Walton, both of Baltimore" and does not become any firmer by a poem published by his brother on October 20, 1827.
His presence then in Boston is neither established nor required by the first, much debated, publication of Tamerlane and Other Poems by Calvin F. S Thomas "sometime" in 1827.
No evidence is thus available contradicting Edgar's "greek expedition" claim !
Coming back to his presence on board the "Constitution":
The ships diary includes all ports described by Edgar in his Al Aaraaf:
The ship leaves Minorca end of February and passing by Al Aaraaf's "fair capo Ducato" and Zante in the Ionian sea enters the Aegean early March, anchors in the island of Milos-(whence sprang the "Idea of Beauty" into birth"-Venus statue discoverd there in 1820) for a month, visits shortly Napoli di Morea in April (propably to recover the body of George Townsend Washington, a relative of the first US president, killed then in the greek civil war), visits then Chio and Efessos early May, Aegina May 10th, Athens May 14-17th, Paros May 17-21th, Petsai-Tsirigo May 29-31st, then back Smyrne June 8th where it "seems to" be on a holiday stationed until the middle of November..
...while in the meantime however
October 1827 batle of Navarino (and subsequent mop up as the enemy fled south)
Ship's diary:
07 Dec 1827-Departed Tunis, Tunisia.
13 Dec 1827-Seaman Owen Sullivan died "of debility" and was buried at sea. (Also reported as having occurred on the 11th.)
31 Dec. 1827-Lieutenant George B. McCulloch died "of disease" and was buried ashore in Port Mahon, Minorca, the next day.
07 Feb 1828-Ordinary Seaman Nicholas Post died of consumption and was buried ashore in Port Mahon, Minorca.
12 Feb 1828-Seaman Joseph Williams drowned while attempting desertion; when found on 27th, body interred ashore in Port Mahon, Minorca.
01 Apr 1828-Purser John B. Timberlake died of consumption and was buried ashore in Port Mahon, Minorca.
04 Apr 1828-Seaman W. Staples died "of the effects of intoxication."
07 Apr 1828-Midshipman Henry K. Mower died.
09 Apr 1828-Midshipman J. Hoover died and was buried ashore with full honors in Port Mahon, Minorca.
29 Apr 1828-Departed Port Mahon, Minorca.
02 May 1828-Seaman Michael Flynn died and was buried at sea off Malaga, Spain.
09 May 1828-Arrived at Gibraltar.
12 May 1828-Seaman Nathaniel Carin had his right leg amputated for unspecified reasons.
13 May 1828-Seaman Nathaniel Carin died a day after having his right leg amputated.
23 May 1828-Departed Gibraltar, ending tour as Flagship, Mediterranean Squadron.
04 Jul 1828-Arrived at Boston, MA.
19 Jul 1828-captain Daniel Todd Patterson placed the ship in ordinary at Boston, MA.

"On January 1, 1829, Poe, still serving under the name of Perry, was promoted to Sergeant-Major of his regiment, the highest rank open to an enlisted man."
For his military records confirming or not his participation one would assume that a cover would be provided for Mr Perry if indeed he was acting covertly as "angelo" suggests.
There is furthermore is a highly conspicuous discrepancy in his promotion to "the highest rank open to an enlisted man" rarely awarded to someone doing simply "garrison duty two and a half years as an enlisted man at Ft. Moultrie, S. C" a poet-soldier who "....had a good deal of spare time on his hands which was evidently spent in wandering along the beaches, writing poetry, and reading. His military duties were light and wholly clerical.....",

There seems also something to be wrong in your info "December 11, 1827 his battery sets sail for Fort Monroe in Old Point Comfort, Virginia and arrives on December 15, 1828" (Where did they go for a year if not to relieve, recrew the Constitution?) but it is immaterial.

I was not able to find "Poe’s letter to Isaac Lea dated May11-27, 1829, in which he clarifies the intent of Al Aaraaf " on the web, please provide details.
Interesting that while in Baltimore(May, 1829, to the end of year) , he first contacts "William Wirt, just retired from active political life in Washington, author of "Letters of a British Spy," and a man of considerable literary reputation. Poe left with Wirt the manuscript of "Al Aaraaf" and received from him a letter of advice rather than recommendation" Edgar then "...went to Philadelphia and left the manuscript with Carey, Lea and Carey, a then famous publishing firm" who had some objections thus Edgar "...By July 28th ...wrote to Carey, Lea and Carey withdrawing the manuscript" so "..The book itself, entitled Al Aaraaf, Tamerlane and Minor Poems, was published by Hatch and Dunning in Baltimore in December, 1829".

Concluding:
 You neither have, nor do you exhibit the interest to obtain, the interpretation of Al Aaraaf and The Sonnet to Zante. The "graces of Ligeia", suggested by both Edgar and myself, have not yet been received apparently.
 However great my pleasure was to have intepreted his two specific works, my subject has never been really Edgar but the riddles of my first post above he helped me solve, so fundamental in fact that I would not at all be surprised if publishers reject their publishing.
 Afterall "les philalethes" and the "nine Muses", where Benj.Franklin, Paul Jones and possibly Thomas Jefferson were initiated by *******, are "out" eversince the "Enlightment" became just another italian word.

No hard feelings and again my best wishes

[Tis]

No hard feelings at all, Yanni. As a matter of course, I find nothing particularly harmful in this with the single amusing exception that you’re alleged “cover up” by Poe is so little different that the seemingly limitless conspiracies that pervade the internet and are as equitably silly as flying saucers and mysterious men behind a grassy knoll.

In the absence of anything substantive, beyond your personal interpretation of two poems from a brilliant and imaginative 19th century mind, you have suggested that Edgar Allan Poe was aboard the USS Constitution while it was serving as the flagship of the Mediterranean Squadron during the Greek Revolution. Further, you have suggested that these two poems, themselves, provide the evidence to support your conclusion. When asked to provide objective evidence, it becomes clear that the proof is based merely upon your personal interpretation of the poems when joined with disconnected and circumstantial documentation of ships logs of the USS Constitution known to be in the Mediterranean during this period.

If true, this in and of itself, would constitute a significant shift in the historical understanding of the life of one of America’s most influential authors, poets and literary critics. If true, it could further explain the man behind a brilliant mind. Consequently, you, as a hopeful author of this proposition, must be held accountable to establish the reasonableness of the proposition. You have not and then you suggest that anyone who is at odds with you is being argumentative.

In this forum, I have already confessed my lack of certification as an expert. However, as a student of Poe and one that has held his works in the highest regard for several decades now, my understanding of Poe, his works and the historical account of his life directly conflicts with your interpretations. When asked to provide more substantive evidence, you persistently repeat interpretations or offer documentation that is, at best, neutral and proves nothing.

As regards the USS Constitution, it was your own lack of clarity and failure to definitively tie Edgar Poe and Captain Jonathan P Miller in the beginning that is directly responsible for the my misinterpretation that Poe sailed on the USS Constitution.

When I offer documented historical evidence, evidence generally accepted by scholars, you simply dismiss it as evidence of a cover-up by Poe himself without explanation. You then point to some reference regarding John Allan as proof that he loaned money for the construction of frigates and is referred to as “a virtuous Quaker”. John Allan, as a wealthy merchant trader, was frequently solicited for loans and these solicitations provide no clear connection to Edgar. As to Allan being a Quaker, John Allan was raised as a Scottish Presbyterian but most indications are that he was not especially religious at all and only rarely attended church services with his wife, Frances, who regularly attended at the Monumental Episcopal Church, built in 1814, where John Allan, himself, purchased pew number 80 for $340. In fact, it is at this church that Edgar is thought to have been baptized with ‘Allan’ as his middle name by Reverend John Buchanan on January 7, 1812.

In your previous post you said...

“There seems also something to be wrong in your info "December 11, 1827 his battery sets sail for Fort Monroe in Old Point Comfort, Virginia and arrives on December 15, 1828" (Where did they go for a year if not to relieve, recrew the Constitution?) but it is immaterial.”

You are quite right, Yanni... There was an error and I regret that it was mine. I happily apologize for my own mistyping of the date December 11, 1827, for it clearly should have read, December 11, 1828. This 4 day trip from Fort Moultrie, South Carolina to Fort Monroe, Virginia is certainly very reasonable period for a trip of few hundred miles. However, it is not reasonable to presume that the United States Army’s Battery H, 1st Artillery was asked to relieved the United States Naval crew of the USS Constitution. But... you recognized this immediately and suggested it was “immaterial”. It is immaterial to anyone who wishes to dismiss as a cover up, Poe’s time in the military service because it is directly at odds with their assertion.

As regards the letter from Edgar Poe to Mr. Isaac Lea of May 11-27, 1829, it may be found on the Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore website at http://www.eapoe.org/works/letters/p2905110.htm . In this letter, Poe clearly characterizes the inspiration for Al Aaraaf as the disappearing star observed by Tycho Brahe. In this letter, Poe may be being deceptive, which he was known to do for his own benefit, but there is nothing to suggest a premeditated cover up to hide that fact that he had been aboard the USS Constitution or his prior presence in Athens or anywhere else. Who was he trying to deceive and why?

Your repeated suggestion that, perhaps, Edgar had sailed with Jonathan P Miller aboard the “Chancellor” on March 5, 1827 for Athens and other ports of call and then, at some point, ended up aboard the USS Constitution, remains unfounded. I had some difficulty finding it again but I had recalled a set of letters Edgar had exchanged with John Allan in March of 1827 referencing their personal argument over Poe’s behavior and debts. It is interesting to note the dates and from where these letter had been posted.

Edgar A. Poe to John Allan, Monday, March 19, 1827 from Richmond. (14 days after the “Chancellor” sailed)
Edgar A. Poe to John Allan, Tuesday, March 20, 1827 from Richmond. (15 days after the “Chancellor” sailed)
John Allan to Edgar A. Poe, Tuesday, March 20, 1827 in Richmond but remained un-mailed.

These three letters clearly confirm that Poe was in Richmond at least 15 days after Captain Jonathan P Miller sailed for Greece and did not sail with the “Chancellor”. All three letters are in the possession of the Valentine Museum in Richmond, Virginia and the transcriptions can be found at the Edgar Allan Poe Society of Baltimore. Even the letter from Edward Crump to Poe dated the 25th of March, 1827 confirms the subject matter of Poe’s and John Allan’s exchange of letters.

You said:

“You neither have, nor do you exhibit the interest to obtain, the interpretation of Al Aaraaf and The Sonnet to Zante. The "graces of Ligeia", suggested by both Edgar and myself, have not yet been received apparently.”

I do have Edgar’s interpretation in his own words, which is at odds with yours. You are quite right, however, I’m not interested in yours.

You said:

“However great my pleasure was to have intepreted [sic] his two specific works, my subject has never been really Edgar but the riddles of my first post above he helped me solve, so fundamental in fact that I would not at all be surprised if publishers reject their publishing.”

In the absence of substantive evidence, I wouldn’t be surprised either.

You said:

"After all "les philalethes" and the "nine Muses", where Benj. Franklin, Paul Jones and possibly Thomas Jefferson were initiated by *******, are "out" ever since the "Enlightment" became just another italian word."

Perhaps you're right, and perhaps, among the daughters of Zeus, it is Calliope and Erato we may all miss the most.

Again, no hard feelings at all, I have enjoyed our exchange. Should you succeed in finding a publisher, and I truly wish you well, best of luck. It has been interesting. Please accept my final and...

Sincere Regards... :santasmil

[yanni]

"Sticking" like epoxy glue to the official line, Tis the engineer and Poe enthusiast, takes his leave to join Santa Claus while dismissing E.A.Poe's own claim (to have participated to the greek expedition) and proclaiming at the same time his uttermost disinterest on the conclusive (to the contrary of the official line) interpretation of Al Aaraaf by a "yanni the greek".
Farewell Tis my friend, see you next year and may Ligeia, the greek siren, grace you with her charms then.
"En passant" to his latest dramatic stage exit-hopefully not a "grand finale"-Tis did confess however his difficulty to comprehend another part of his hero's story and placed the obliging inquiry below.

Tis's inquiry "As regards the letter from Edgar Poe to Mr. Isaac Lea of May 11-27, 1829...In this letter, Poe clearly characterizes the inspiration for Al Aaraaf as the disappearing star observed by Tycho Brahe. In this letter, Poe may be being deceptive, which he was known to do for his own benefit, but there is nothing to suggest a premeditated cover up to hide that fact that he had been aboard the USS Constitution or his prior presence in Athens or anywhere else. Who was he trying to deceive and why?"

The answer:
On his return to the US Edgar was already aware that "things" had changed: With the governemental change, the foreign policy also changed and Nic. Biddle's "National Bank" was attacked by Jackson.
(Two main parties existed then in the US, the "pros" and the "against" Britain. Edgar, with a Lafayette "enlightened french" connection, like all presidents until then, and his heroic grandfather, belonged very clearly to the "against" party.)
To Edgar's dismay the "pros" gained control. He was permanently out of favor thereafter and hence the "official" line not allowing Al Aaraaf's interpretation .
(More details can be made available if need be, particularly re Edgar's conclusive relations to Biddle and his Port-folio club.)
The poem being full of relative "messages", clever politician Wirt, another "against", advised Edgar not to publish Al Aaraaf. Our hero having spent a lot of time and effort to write the poem however, he came to the idea that by removing the last part, thus hiding Lemnos (the island's actual geographic location- on Tycho's supernova naturally(!)-and military uniqueness can be seen on the map even by the blindest of "scholars" then and now) the other "messages" would go unnoticed by Messrs Carey-Lea-Carey who he met next. They were not so dumb however and despite his plights for the "extraordinary disadvantageous circumstances" under which the poem was written (Edgar disclosing obviously his pride for his greek expedition, see quote below) and deceptive relative fairy tale on the "stary" poems contents, refused to publish it.

quote:
"I should add a circumstance which, that no justification of a failure, is yet a boast in success -- the poem is by a minor & truly written under extraordinary disadvantages."


The "Lemnos message" already prepackaged in code by Edgar.....

"Ianthe, dearest, see- how dim that ray!
How lovely 'tis to look so far away!
She seem'd not thus upon that autumn eve
I left her gorgeous halls- nor mourn'd to leave.
That eve- that eve- I should remember well-
The sun-ray dropp'd in Lemnos, with a spell
On th' arabesque carving of a gilded hall
Wherein I sate, and on the draperied wall-
And on my eyelids- O the heavy light!
How drowsily it weigh'd them into night!
On flowers, before, and mist, and love they ran
With Persian Saadi in his Gulistan:
But O that light!- I slumber'd- Death, the while,
Stole o'er my senses in that lovely isle
So softly that no single silken hair
Awoke that slept- or knew that he was there.

....will be unwrapped after New Year along with Edgar's "coded" call on Ligeia.

Merry Xmas all and thanks for your attention.

[yanni]

POE'S LIGEIA

PART I

Besides Ianthe, Ligeia is another greek lady's name that E.A.Poe uses. He first inserts it in his epic Al Aaraaf of 1827-8 and then in prose LIGEIA written 1837-1838 which commences as follows.

And I thought, as I gazed upon the corpse , of the wild passage in Joseph Glanvill: "The will therein lieth, which dieth not. Who knoweth the mysteries of the will, with its vigor? For God is but a great will pervading all things by nature of its intentness. Man doth not yield him to the angels, nor unto death utterly, save only through the weakness of his feeble will." She died — and I, crushed into the very dust with sorrow, could no longer endure the lonely desolation...
I CANNOT, for my soul, remember how, when, or even precisely where, I first became acquainted with the lady Ligeia. Long years have since elapsed, and my memory is feeble through much suffering. Or, perhaps, I cannot now bring these points to mind, because, in truth, the character of my beloved, her rare learning, her singular yet placid cast of beauty, and the thrilling and enthralling eloquence of her low musical language, made their way into my heart by paces so steadily and stealthily progressive that they have been unnoticed and unknown.

Who was Ligeia?
Let's first examine the lady's mythological and etymological aspect:
In ancient greek times Ligeia, the daughter of river Acheloos and a Muse, was a naiad (water nymph) and a siren with a handicap: While the voices of all her other sister-sirens were so pleasant as to make mortals loose their sense of time and orientation, her voice was shrilly, earpiercing, she was hence considered an outcast then.
The sirens died along with ancient Greece but fortunately the greek language did not and so carried within to the present time part of the ancient mythos including Ligeia. Time has been kind apparently and so modern greek Ligeia's voice has mellowed. She is furthermore known to use it today, very convincingly, to persuade the mortals to yield, to bend their egoism and backbone, to succumb to "God's" superior will and power.
Hence the modern greek adjectives "Lygeros, lygere", depicting he or she who is slender and flexible and "lygo" (gamma, omega) or "lygiso", verbs meaning to bend (active) or being bend (passive) ie to yield, give-in or surrender to a greater force.
The name itself is often written today with an y-grk L Y G E I A.
So there are two Ligeias to choose from.

Which of the two Ligeias was Edgar thinking of when writing Al Aaraaf?Edgar selects to place Angelo's call to Ligeia before the battle of Navarino (the "thousand Seraphs" passage already interpreted) as follows:

Some have left the cool glade, and have slept with the bee-
Arouse them, my maiden, On moorland and lea-
Go! breathe on their slumber, All softly in ear,
Thy musical number They slumbered to hear
For what can awaken An angel so soon,
Whose sleep hath been taken Beneath the cold moon,
As the spell which no slumber Of witchery may test,
The rhythmical number Which lull'd him to rest?"

and continues:

Spirits in wing, and angels to the view,
A thousand seraphs burst th' Empyrean thro'

The "soft breathing" quality he gives to her voice and the role he assigns to her (to persuade the weaker of the two sides to give-in to the stronger before the battle) are already clear indications that it is the modern greek siren he speaks about. As if these were not enough however, later on in his life he further relates his Ligeia to the specific "wild" passage from Joseph Glanvill above. (A different LIGEIA is in his mind then again but we'll come to that later on).
He makes thus very evident that the modern greek Ligeia with the soft voice and the bending powers was in his mind when Al Aaraaf was written.
Al Aaraaf's Ligeia is the modern greek siren, very much alive and fully enpowered then to act as an intermediary. Angelo-Edgar calls her repeatedly to "do her thing". She apparently fails to do so, thus he is obliged himself to warn Nesace-Ianthe but in vain as the spell cast upon her in "Lemnos" is stronger.
Whereas any two odd modern greek words could normally be defined as mere indications of the debated presence of an american in Greece then, the use he makes in Al Aaraaf of "Ligeia" and "Nesace", two "difficult" modern greek words, his deep knowledge, precise use and later particular definition of his LIGEIA, is evidence indeed that Edgar learned these two words very clearly in situ, not through his limited tuition in ancient greek or his non existant "leisurly barrack" service in the US army .

end of Part I

[yanni]

Do Al Aaraaf's contents confirm and describe exactly the events taking placing in Greece during his visit?
Let's take first a brief glance at the greek situation during years 1826-27:
Greece's revolt of 1821 was instigated to counter Britain's alliance with the Sultan. The greek revolutionaries were soon divided , pro and against Britain (same as in the US at the time) and a civil war was fought as from 1823 simultaneously to the revolutionary war. In 1826 the "against" were negotiating a peace treaty with the progressive albanian ruler of Egypt Mehmet Ali whose forces, led by his son Ibrahim, had taken Morea and Missolonghi and were in control of most of "Greece" then with few exceptions. Egypt was aided by many enligthened royalist french-like Lafayette, himself aided by the US in 1824- who were against the jacobine french revolution,its product, Napoleon, and the puppet government that replaced him. Thus the fight was not really against "Greece to be" but resistance to the british conquest of the Levant.
Those same greeks who had started and fought for the revolution had already made their choice: By maintaining good relations with Egypt and negotiating next another peace treaty with the Sultan, they thought they could maintain their food sources and continue trading grain with both Egypt and the Black Sea, their traditional trading partners.
Edgar's "four bright suns" however had other plans('Twas a sweet time for Nesace- for there Her world lay lolling on the golden air, Near four bright suns- a temporary rest-An oasis in desert of the blest. Of the four bright suns only England, France and Russia have recognised historicaly their Navarino role, one "sun" is therefore missing! See further "Thy will is done, O God! The star hath ridden high Thro' many a tempest, but she rode Beneath thy burning eye " The star who rode so high as to get too close to the "burning eye" is Zante- Ianthe- Greece. For the "Star" and the "burning eye" see the end.)
Tzar Alexander of Russia, who had witnessed as a child the murder of his father through THE conspiracy at the turn of the century, was a weak Tzar controlled more or less by the brits and in constant fear of a revolution against him.
The joint fleets of Alexander's Russia, "puppet" France, Britain (and obvioulsy the USA-only Edgar and the ship's log document their participation as the Monroe Doctrine did not provide for "international intervention") destroyed the Egyptian fleet at Navarino.
Greece did not immediately become a british protectorate. Governor Capodistria, appointed shortly after Navarino, also maintained an "against" policy and was therefore murdered in 1831.
Coming back to Edgar:
He told us already that he "lived through" modern greek Ligeia, he learned the word from greeks, that he witnessed and discussed all their stress and agony, then in their 6th year of their revolt against the Sultan, in their 4th of the civil war, facing then in addition to all that, the fleets of the joined "suns".He confessed furthermore that he himself, "Angelo", had been long slumbered by Nesace's witchery, obviously not as strong as the "spell" cast against her in "Lemnos" as below:

"Ianthe, dearest, see- how dim that ray!
How lovely 'tis to look so far away!
She seem'd not thus upon that autumn eve
I left her gorgeous halls- nor mourn'd to leave.
That eve- that eve- I should remember well-
The sun-ray dropp'd in Lemnos, with a spell
On th' arabesque carving of a gilded hall
Wherein I sate, and on the draperied wall-
And on my eyelids- O the heavy light!
How drowsily it weigh'd them into night!
On flowers, before, and mist, and love they ran
With Persian Saadi in his Gulistan:
But O that light!- I slumber'd- Death, the while,
Stole o'er my senses in that lovely isle
So softly that no single silken hair
Awoke that slept- or knew that he was there.

After Ligeia's failure, he himself, Angelo, attempts to persuade his endangered beloved, yet then unfaithfull (On flowers, before, and mist, and love they ran, With Persian Saadi in his Gulistan) Ianthe-Zante before the battle, to give in to the superior strength before her but that she would not listen.
He calls her a beautifull but stubborn and unfaithfull witch, says he was not sorry for their separation, that he was in fact ever so gentle and discreet, like a ghost perhaps or something similar but......

"We came- and to thy Earth- but not to us
Be given our lady's bidding to discuss:
We came, my love; around, above, below,
Gay fire-fly of the night we come and go,
Nor ask a reason save the angel-nod
She grants to us, as granted by her God-
But, Angelo, than thine grey Time unfurl'd
Never his fairy wing O'er fairier world!
Dim was its little disk, and angel eyes
Alone could see the phantom in the skies,
When first Al Aaraaf knew her course to be
Headlong thitherward o'er the starry sea-
But when its glory swell'd upon the sky,
As glowing Beauty's bust beneath man's eye,
We paused before the heritage of men,
And thy star trembled- as doth Beauty then!"
Thus, in discourse, the lovers whiled away
The night that waned and waned and brought no day.
They fell: for Heaven to them no hope imparts
Who hear not for the beating of their hearts.

aaaah, Angelo, you can't have it both ways, you cannot be sarcastic to those who hear the beating of their hearts and call yourself a poet ....shame on you!

Anyway, the answer to the question above is Yes, they do.

End of Part II

[yanni]

Does his correspondence, before and after, confirm his greek expedition and explain his exact role?
Reading through his correspondence with his foster father, one sees that Edgar declares himself insulted after hearing Allen calling him names so he leaves the Allens on March 18th, 1827 determined to: .....place myself [in] some situation where I may not only o[bt]ain a livelihood....indeavor to find some place in this wide world, where I will be treated — not as you have treated me — This is not a hurried determination, but one on which I have long considered — and having so considered my resolution is unalterable" He suggests Allen complies to his demands or else"....If you fail to comply with my request, I tremble for the consequence". but is totaly broke and starving "I am in the greatest necessity, not having tasted food since Yesterday morning. I have no where to sleep at night, but roam about the Streets — I am nearly exhausted— I sail on Saturday —I have not one cent in the world to provide any food".
We have thus a determined young man who has long prepared his departure, as he says, knows propably where he is going, does not care to take with him the necessary means and is burdened by a complaining stomach . Allen may have or have not helped him. He then disappears and, in the long interval until he sets foot on land again, Edgar is registered only once simply as "enlisted under the name Edgar A. Perry May 26, 1827" The source does not disclose place of enlistment.
Until his next letter to Allen from Fort Moultrie, Charleston harbor, December 1st 1828, 18 months elapse, he is nowhere to be seen, total vacuum, no records, no letters, nothing at all to document his "long considered determination", his overflowing energy, his enthusiasm, his presence anywhere.

Assuming the passage from the East Coast to the Aegean Sea to last between four to six weeks, Edgar reached Athens somehow privately when the Constitution was there as well, ie May 1827, enlisted then and there (The last spot of Earth's orb I trod upon Was a proud temple call'd the Parthenon-he finds himself in a totally different world next) for a five year term) and undertook his "unknown diplomatic" duties, possibly as translator (french-english, hence perhaps his greek friends) and a double agent as well (" we came.... below").
Because it is a very different Edgar indeed who writes to Allen, December 1st, 1828, upon his return:
"But, at no period of my life, have I regarded myself with a deeper satisfaction -- or did my heart swell with more honourable pride -- The time may come (if at all it will come speedily) when much that appears of a doubtful nature will be explained away, and I shall have no hesitation in appearing among my former connexions -- at the present I have no such intention, and nothing, short of your absolute commands, should deter me from my purpose. "
Allen, mumbling "he had better remain as he is until the termination of his enlistment.", appears to have long lost hope in his adoptee, propably just another investment for him.
A month later, (Jan. 1) signor Edgar Perry is promoted to Sergeant-Major of his regiment, "the highest rank open to an enlisted man".Yet Edgar has higher expectations, wants out, purchases a substitute, is released April 15, 1829, moves to Baltimore in May (7 or 8), manages to have his butchered Al Aaraaf printed by Hatch and Dunning in December, horses around a while, leaves Baltimore for the West Point June 1830 and, less than a year later , for some reason or other, reabandons his military career, leaves New York and returns to Baltimore before May 6, 1831, ready to leave the States for ever and either join Lafayette or the polish army.
Is it idealism that leads his merrygoround or does his heart attempt to fill his wallet's vacuum?
Propably the last as his previous involvement in the ++ game at Navarino shows: After leaving Ianthe to her fate and having survived the battle (I slumber'd- Death) he is being sarcastic, declares very proud for the role he played, for his "Dim... little disk, and angel eyes" and is set to benefit from his experience as well. A split personality that is not trusted by either side. How he must have envied his Ianthe!

Answer: His "greek expedition" participation is evident and reconfirmed by his promotion. His role in Greece "dim", his "angel eyes" bifocal.

End of Part III (one more to follow sometime later).

[yanni]

PART IV

How does Ianthe further relate to Ligeia?
Edgar learned, months later, of the 1835 murder of the man's wife in Zante and there is no evidence as to how he learned it. There are however many indications: .
The Constitution visited Corfu, the seat of the british governor of the Ionian isles, July 30th, 1836. The ship returned home in 1838, thus Edgar propably received a letter regarding the event sometime October 1836. He was married shortly before and had already written his "Marriage vow". Towards the end of the year Whitte reacts to his sudden change of behaviour for the worse, the Sonnet is published in January, Edgar is then dismissed from the Messenger and moves from Richmond.
Whereas his "Vow" is an obvious selfish expression of his communication difficulties with his young wife and also a "product of the mind", his Sonnet is-finally-passionate, a sigh from a broken heart. He is not crying for Zante the isle but Ianthe, the woman-flower that died. He is therefore lying again but his passion is sincere. The Sonnet IS a poem.
He tries to recover, never mentions Ianthe-Zante again but...he remains "stuck" with a murder that troubles his conscience:
He spends a lot of time remembering, writing and tearing paper and remorse and, when quoting twenty months later Clanvill, it is Ligeia, the corpse attempting a ressurection, that replaces and symbolises his murdered Ianthe of the Sonnet, the lovely wife of his "friend" who, by not yielding to the "superior" powers, was paid back through his wife's and brother's murder by the "clan" who next took over "Zante"-Greece. (Secretly changing sides after 1831, they were supported by the brits who dissolved the Ionian Parliament in 1835 at the time of the murder and established next an autocratic banana- protectorate. They all killed "Zante" and Edgar knew).
Ligeia, the blackhaired siren, the corpse with the earpiercing voice, reappeared in the Baltimore American Museum, September 18, 1838.

What happened to our heroes next?
The woman:Nothing is known of the name and origins of the murdered Ianthe. We do know that she was so brave as to have followed and stayed with her man to a most remote, strange and dangerous place. Her presence in Zante and the murder itself have been crosschecked. Some daugthers have been registered in saved correspondence one of which became possibly an opera singer .

The man, Edgar's friend, was an exceptionaly well educated, multi talented and versatile person. He spoke modern and ancient languages and resembled in so many ways the mysterious San Germain (four aliases discovered already) one can easily qualify him as the next "San Germain". They were afterall related.
A top ranking diplomat of the greek revolutionary government from 1822 to 1826, his whereabouts from July 1826 to September 1827 are unknown. His lifelong best friend however, a frenchman, was Ibrahim's aide de camp at Navarino, an indication that he was also close by.
When his wife was killed he was seen, late 1835, in London. wearing mourning black clothes. When asked, he replied: Signor M****, non posso piangere, ma mia moglie e morte, e inutile di piangere. He left London shortly after.
He totally allienated himself from Modern Greece after the murder, lived in wealth and died in peace at the age of 80 in the country of his choice. His biography, partly compiled with info supplied by select relevant authorities, has been deposited to same since August 2005. If ever published it will be, like the present, part of a larger book.

Edgar, who had propably learned of the man's family and role both from books at Jefferson' s University as well as from his foster father, died broke and broken but he had his dream fulfilled. He did become a poet afterall.

Allen lived long enough to supervise the sabotaged "frigates order" turn into a joke: From about five ordered only one arrived much later when it was no more needed.. No penalties were ever paid as Alex Contostavlos, the greek negotiator, was heavily bribed by Allen's friends.

The murderer, a famous poet himself and with a most flexible spine as well (until the murder was carrried out on his orders) ceased writing thereafter, locked himself in and died an alcoholic early 1857.
He was fingerpointed for his role in the murder in two letters published in Athens 1999 and 2000, the second by a major newspaper on day 1821 is celebrated. Silence followed eversince.

San Germain's biography was easy to compile when his true identity was discovered earlier this year: Apart from his "secret" role as war minister of the Bourbons 1771-1779, he was a famous enlightened-he gave the "light" to the word- man of the 18th century and, but for his origins, diplomatic and ministerial duties and relative friends worldwide, his biography was already written as a half truth! The other half was possibly considered of "limited publication interest" as it concerned, mostly and fundamentaly, the creation of modern Greece, democratic France and the USA. The "halfbiographer" is since considered a top "gens de lettres" in France

The star of Tycho Brache was taken, when it appeared, as a sign for the battle of Lepanto(1571) that determined the fate of the "West" then. As the true heroes of our story as well as Don Quixote, Edgar's favorite, relate to this battle, it is relevant. The star itself disappeared soon after and Tycho then disputed Galileo's truth along with a catholic priest who had a brother who called him stupid however and became himself a famous astronomer. His descendends are relevant to this story as well.

The other star, the pentagon symbol used extensively by our Edgar and his great country, has nothing to do with Tycho's or any of the others claiming proprietory rights. It has everything to do with the comet of 1652-53 that was "patented" soon after in Florence. It is this star that appears on the Great Seal together with the "eye" on the pyramid and all other "mystery" symbols.

Edgar's Not long the measure of my falling hours, For nearest of all stars was thine to ours must always precede any serious meditation on history, literature and opera buffa.

Written to the memory of "Yanni the greek" by his co-kin.
Athens, Dec 29th 2005.

[yanni]

There seems to be a prophetic element in Poe as well:

She ceas'd- and buried then her burning cheek
Abash'd, amid the lilies there, to seek
A shelter from the fervor of His eye;
For the stars trembled at the Deity.
She stirr'd not- breath'd not- for a voice was there
How solemnly pervading the calm air!
A sound of silence on the startled ear
Which dreamy poets name "the music of the sphere."
Ours is a world of words: Quiet we call
"Silence"- which is the merest word of all.

Happy New Year all.

[yanni]

Reading through "favorite poem of the week" I reread Edgar's Anabelle Lee and realised he is still talking of Ianthe in 1849.
The identity of the dark haired bright greek maiden who enchanted Edgar is now known but needs doublechecking(Her name and description are on the web, her biography is not, like all other 'heroes" of this story.)
Whatever is found will be disclosed when this thread is moved to E.A.Poe's "section" or the views reach 3000, whichever comes sooner.

[yanni]

Edgar confirms all the above and further reveals his double acting role in "The Visionary" where he describes in the person of the allmighty mystery man the original San Germain to the most minute detail. ALL characteristics given fit San Germain like a glove.

Thus Edgar discloses to the now enlightened silent reader:

a) That he knew both the true identities of San Germain and his successor as well as their relationship.
b) Our hero's political role until then and the difficult position he was in at the time (1833) as he is really cornered then by his opponents, the "probritish" party..
c) Edgar himself was acting as a double agent and, in close contact with "London", participated in a plot to take out or neutralise the man by murdering his child or wife or both.The plot is then in its final planning stage.

The change of title is also quite indicatory:

He selects "The Visionary" before the deed when the plot is in the planning stage and chenges it later (post mortem) to "The Assignation", revealing thus the assasination as well as Edgar's relative role (assignment).

Edgar traded in his famous grandfather for a place under the (new) sun.....BUT.......

" Ha! ha! ha! — ha! ha! ha!.....
But pardon me, my dear sir, (here his tone of voice dropped to the very spirit of cordiality,) pardon me, my dear sir, for my uncharitable laughter. You appeared so utterly astonished. Besides, some things are so completely ludicrous that a man must laugh or die. To die laughing must be the most glorious of all glorious deaths!"


("The Visionary," later called "The Assignation," was first published in Godey's Lady's Book in January, 1834. Subsequent publication history: On August 7, 1835, "The Visionary" appeared in the Southern Literary Messenger. Later, in July of 1839, Poe's poem, "To Ianthe in Heaven," excerpted from "The Visionary," was reprinted in Burton's in Philadelphia. Bentley's Miscellany also reprinted " The Visionary" in December of 1840 without acknowledgement. On June 7, 1845, Poe's revised tale "The Assignation," was reprinted in the Broadway Journal. The revisions made to the "The Assignation" were progressive improvements.)

[legrand]

Did Edgar Allan Poe hide a secret message in his tale The Gold Bug?

Is the plaintext of the tale actually housing a secret message itself?

I think so.....a message of hidden wealth.

Write me at:

[email protected]

Legrand

[yanni]

I don't really know and cryptography does not agree with me. Anyway Edgar died broke.

[yanni]

....is to blame for all this.

(This is a riddle for the really serious researcher. The one who finds what the message is, will receive a piece of turkish delight for reward)

[yanni]

What if Concino was not just shooting blanks?

Ha! ha! ha! — ha! ha! ha!.....
But pardon me, my dear sir, (here his tone of voice dropped to the very spirit of cordiality,) pardon me, my dear sir, for my uncharitable laughter. You appeared so utterly astonished. Besides, some things are so completely ludicrous that a man must laugh or die. To die laughing must be the most glorious of all glorious deaths!"

[yanni]

Concino's role in world history has been grossly underrated.
He is central in our story, however strange it may appear.

[yanni]

Recap:
It is concluded that Edgar was a double agent. His participation in a plot to neutralize Giovanni or Jean d'Anastasy, the collector of antiques and papyri also known as d'Athanasy or "Yanni" (see the web or ask for more details here) is evident and, after intepreting of The Visionary as well, it is quite possible Edgar's surname was not even "Poe" to begin with:
-His birthdate and family details are too obscure for a general's grandson, he was given an identity and was send to the Levant as Poe so that doors would be opened to him as they did.
-In London previously he was known as Edgar Allen all along and in the army he used the Perry name for other similar reasons (his role while at Jefferson's college).
-His foster father Allen's business dealings regarding the sabotaged greek frigates order (1823-1830) should really be further investigated by researchers in corresponding US archives.

Concern is expressed hereby that there has really been no response for the first ever interpretation of Edgar's Al Aaraaf, Sonnet to Zante, LIGEIA and The Visionary-Assignation as above or furthemore for statements made concerning the star symbol and its origins.

Re Concino's usolved riddle: Yanni's prize will be placed in the freezer for future generations.

See you all there.

[yanni]

A friend asked me two relevant questions:

Answering your two basic questions partly with quotes form Al Aaraaf:

"Do you think Franklin could have been involved in the Diamond Necklace Affair during his exploits in France (based on your timeline)?"
'Nor long the measure of my falling hours,For nearest of all stars was thine to ours-'

-The timeline supplied shows Franklin left Europe shortly after the attempt against the life of his friend Saint Germain. Also, some days before or after his departure, Les Philalethes refused to recognize Cagliostro's masonry, ie french enlightened royalists were still strong then although the jewels were already gone. The tides turned in favour of the probrit side (which included Weishaupt and Cagliostro) early 1786 AFTER the theft at Saint Germain's lodgings which included possibly the archives of The Nine Muses and Les Philalethes (both controlled until then by the ageing Sain Germain).
In short I don't think Franklin was involved in the "affaire" but his departure was propably hurried because of the events.

"Do we know where Edgar came from then?"
'Dread star! that came, amid a night of mirth,A red Daedalion on the timid Earth.'

If you read the Announcement you'll notice that a certain "George Townsend Washington" is mentioned in the itinerary of The Constitution:
"....to recover the body of George Townsend Washington, a relative of the first US president, killed then in the greek civil war), visits then Chio and Efessos early May, Aegina May 10th, Athens May 14-17th, Paros May 17-21th, Petsai-Tsirigo May 29-31st, then back Smyrne June 8th where it "seems to" be on a holiday stationed until the middle of November.."

You'll notice perhaps, as I did yesterday thanks to our communication, that the time relates very closely to the "enlistment" date of private Edgar Allen Perry to the US army. I assumed until now that Edgar used the name "Poe" to gain access to the profrench side then. I was wrong: Nobody knew "Poe" in Greece but everybody knew "Washington" then, so if a double agent wanted to impress "Washington" would be the proper name to use.

Checked the greek encyclopedia ("Helios") this morning: G.T.W. is registered as "the president's nephew" arriving to Greece in 1825, complaining to the provisional government -when they apply to the Brits late 1825 for protection-and is killed as above in Napoli di Morea.

A year or so ago I had searched the web for the name G.T.W but did not find anything at all.I assume that if a nephew of the US president had really died in Greece then, he would be commemorated from both sides until today. Well, he is not!

Concluding:

Edgar Allen Poe , US double agent working for "the brits", arrived as George Townsend Washington in The Levant, spent his time between Zante-Venice and Livorno (1825-1826) princely but when the man, whose guest he was, took his family and fled Zante, Edgar boarded the USS Constitution. There never was a real "George Townsend Washington nephew" in Greece and he never died here either. .

If you feel up to it go ahead and look for GTW on your own and let me know. From my side I'll have to correct the "Announcement" accordingly, cause the last thing I want is to be taken for the fool I really am.

Funny isn't it?

[legrand]

http://www.helleniccomserve.com/greek_war_for_independence.html

Brilliant Yanni!!!

Legrand

[yanni]

Mr George Chryssis, a prominent (see *below) american from the island of Crete, is the only "authority" on the subject and part of what he has written "American Philhellenes and the Greek War for Independence" can be seen at http://www.helleniccomserve.com/greek_war_for_independence.html

I say "part" because, apart from exctracts A and B below.....

A: "Leading the fundraising efforts in Baltimore was Charles Carroll, of Carrollton, a signatory of the Declaration of Independence, and in Philadelphia the leader was Mathew Carey."

B: "Other American philhellenes who went to Greece to offer their services during the Revolution were George Wilson of Providence, Rhode Island, who excelled in bravery during the naval battle at Nafpaktos; James Williams, an African American from Baltimore who joined the Greek Navy forces; Estwick Evans from New Hampshire, who left behind his wife and children in order to fight the Greek War for Independence; captain JOHN M. ALLEN and WILLIAM TOWNSEND WASHINGTON Washington, a distant relative of president George Washington, who despite his erratic personal behavior and colorful life-style he was fearless and brave and fell heroically fighting in the battle of Palamidi."

....Mr Chryssis, in an ealrier version of his study (to be found at the site of a Mr Fotios Basagiannis who has copied him verbatim but did not then edit the original text of Mr Chryssis, the following text "C" is also to be found:

C: "....W.T. Washington. (The last had fallen in love with Rosa Botsari, the daughter of Markos Botsaris (great revolution hero) , but she was killed in a battle in Nafplion."

Possibly Mr Chryssis has withdrawn the paragraph above because "she" was not killed in Nafplion(in fact she died in 1875) but he- as per myth- was. She, on the other hand, could not have been the "amour" of Mr "Washington"(The daughter of Marco Botsaris, Catherine or Rosa, was born in 1818 and, was only 9 years old in 1827) and furthermore she was then captive of a turkish Pasha. There are thus two mistakes in the text and Mr Chryssis did well do withdraw it but still many questions arise:

1.If Rosa was not the fair maiden of Mr "Washington-Poe" then who was?
and
2.Who supplied the wrong info in the first place and why?
and
3.Who was captain John M. Allen if not the "virtuous quaker" of the Announcement, ie Mr "Poe-Washington"'s father?
and
4.With all these scholars flying around how did Mr William Townsend Washington on arrival to Greece become George T. W.?
and
5. What does Mr Chryssis mean by the "erratic personal behavior and colorful life-style" of Mr "Washington"?
and
6. Is this Mr Mathew Carey the same perhaps as the the Mathew Carey-printer friend of General Lafayette as well as Mr Edgar Allen Poe? (see http://www.eapoe.org/works/criticsm/slm36021.htm#Martin and other texts relating the two men)

There are other questions concerning the role of other american philhellenes as well, but these suffice for now.

Perhaps Mr Chryssis would care to comment?

*George C. Chryssis is a successful entrepreneur, philanthropist, civic activist, poet and author. He is a past supreme President of the Pancretan Association of America, a member of AHEPA, an Archon of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, a member of the Greek Archdiocese of America Leadership 100, former Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees at Hellenic College, and Trustee of Northeastern University and Wentworth Institute of Technology. He is a founder and a former publisher of "The Hellenic Voice", a national newspaper serving the Greek American community. George, has written and published several literary essays, technical articles, editorials and commentaries, as well as four poetry books (in both Greek and English), and an internationally acclaimed and highly recognized technical book in English (with a Chinese translation). For his contributions, activities and accomplishments, he has received numerous awards, citations and recognitions. He lives and works in Boston, Massachusetts.)

[yanni]

While waiting for Mr Chryssis to tell us all about the "Tampico" captain John M.Allen, a little correction is necessary for the memory of dear Edgar.

Following info on Mr George Townsend Washington was found in "The History of Modern Greece" by Tasos Vournas, Tolidis editions, 1974. Athens, Greece .

-"Evidence" of GTW's death at Nafplion "towards the end of the revolution" is his name among others of dead philellhenes on a commemorative column placed in the catholic church of Nafplion by french colonel Hilarion Tourret (page 94). In page 95 reference is made to the frigates order scandal attributed to the "capitalist forces" that had taken control of the US then.
-After prince Mavrogordatos and his probrit party signed the petition to the British throne requesting protection, thus making Greece a protectorate, french general Ross and GTW, "american philellhene", filed to the provisional greek governement a written complaint dated 24th July 1825 (page 158) Furhtermore and according to greek historian P.Chiotis, GTW handed over to the government another complaint a few days later revealing that the "protection" petition was first written in italian in Corfu and was then translated to greek in the island of Hydra and ended the complaint with the statement that he had not come to fight in Greece so that the country next became a british colony and that, because of this protection petition, he would be leaving the country (page 159).

It's noteworthy that on June 1825 Giovanni d'Anastasy (GTW's host and friend) was on a secret mission in Montenegro calling the Serbs to revolt against the Sultan whereas Stratford Canning, british embassador in Constantinople, met Mavrogordatos in Ermioni, on Morea mainland opposite Hydra, thus the protection petition next.

Above info necessitates the correction of previous statement made concerning Edgar's role as a double agent "working for the brits". In 1825 he was not at all a double agent but an ardent american patriot considering british imperialism as "the enemy". He was apparently forced later on to conform to the US policy change that took place between 1825 and Navarino.

It is concluded furthermore that after July 1825 Edgar returns to Zante as guest of d'Anastasy and travels next to Venice, stays in Giovanni's family palazzo where he sees "Saint Germain's" art and antique collection as per The Visionary. .

Who cannot like Edgar anyway?

[yanni]

RECAP

Apologising to the "silent viewer" for the misunderstanding on Edgar's "greek role" and "patriotism", I point out that from the early beginning of The Announcement it was made clear that any "Poe expertise" was limited to the interpetation of the specific two poems, that became possible through a series of coincidences and that Edgar was not the object of the research anyway:.

As stated in post Nr 1, between the decoding first of the Sonnet and, five years later, of Al Aaraaf, following "classic" riddles, all interrelated and very relevant, were encountered and finally solved:
-D'Anastasy, the "armenian" alchemy papyri collector, consul(1826-?) of Sweden and Norway to Egypt
-Cagliostro -Balsamo and "his" Rite of Mizraim
- Comte de San Germain, minister of war of Luis XV and XVI (1771-1779)
- The designer of the great seal of the USA, a friend and advisor of Ben.Franklin.
-The affair of the queen's necklace (1784-1785) that brought about the french revolution (1789-1790)
-The Stuart jewels "discovered" by Walter Scott in 1818. "

It is also stated in same post that " The Sonnet refers indeed to the death of young woman, wife of a man Poe had to contact during his diplomatic mission to the Levant early 1827. They greatly impressed Poe and hence, when he learned of the 1835 murder that included both her and other members of the man's family, his world totally collapsed".
In other posts down the line it was made clear that the "man" was "riddle" D'Anastasy as above, also known as Yanni and that his biography outline reveals a very complex personality, that he was also known by other aliases as well and that he was related to Saint Germain, war minister of France about 1771-1779 (The exact period and duration of SG's ministerial service is still kept a secret by french authorities, just like his identity, for reasons known to the undersigned).
Yanni in fact was then labeled "the next Saint Germain": Research revealed not only that they were both from the same family but also that Yanni had in his possesion until 1828 "magical" papyri used possibly by Saint Germain and certainly by Cagliostro-Balsamo before his capture and imprisonment in Rome. (Known as PGMxii 474-95 and PDMxii 135-64, they are to be found at the National Museum of antiquities at Leiden Holland and have been the subject of long discussions concerning the presence or not of prophet Abraham in Egypt. Problem is that the holy man's name is followed in the papyri by the name "Walsamo", ie Balsamo written as the name is pronounced in the greek language, propably by Mr Cagliostro himself).
If, in addition to the above, Yanni's hydrian family protagonist role to the greek war for independence is taken into account (archivial research study by the undersigned twice published in Athens, 1998) together with the fact that Yanni was host and science partner of Champollion (Montenegro early 1826, Alexandria and Gourna, Egypt, 1828) and if Ben.Franlin's "unknown" relations to Saint Germain-war minister of France are also added to the equation, the conclusion is reached that Yanni was the ideal only host for the young ambitious "profrench" american poet who came to Greece to join in the war for independence, a kind of small advance repayment for the great IOU due to Saint Germain by the american "fathers of nation" for his role in the war for the american independence.
It is also highly possible that Edgar played the role of "quarantee" for the fulfillment of the contractual obligations on behalf of the frigate suppliers as the custom then was in the East.
Considering Yanni's own role as "master of disguise" it is assumed that the "Washington" name was selected with his approval so that the presence of the first US president own kin would make the revolutionaries feel more safe.

When stating as above therefore that decoding the poems happened "through a series of coincidences", it is a great understatement to say the least, therefore any further reference to "other riddles solved" is indeed superfluous and certainly "too big to handle" for the ordinary reader.
Let us therefore next concentrate on Edgar:

His affection to "alchemy" was the second indication, after the Sonnet, of a direct link to d'Anastasy and his family, thus Al Aaraaf was seriously studied, the Constitution's itinerary was then reconstructed from info at the relevant site (the way it is presented there is mind breaking), the poem was thus fully interpreted and it was then certain that poet Edgar was in Greece and that Al Aaraaf together with The Sonnet speak of his role there, his friendship with Yanni, his infatuation with Yanni's later murdered wife (Correspondence with a british expert on the subject revealed that the death of d'Anastasy's wife happened late spring of 1835) or possibly one of his daughters (he makes reference in another poem- possibly Anna Lee-of the elders of her clan not approving their marriage).
The Vow, the Sonnet, The Visionary-Assignation and Annabel Lee all reveal clearly Edgar leaving his heart in Greece and bringing home his everempty wallet along with the first indications of his schizoid problem.
(to be continued in next)

[yanni]

RECAP (continued)

Let's reexamine his words, shortly after his return from Greece, to Allen, December 1st, 1828:

"But, at no period of my life, have I regarded myself with a deeper satisfaction -- or did my heart swell with more honourable pride -- The time may come (if at all it will come speedily) when much that appears of a doubtful nature will be explained away, and I shall have no hesitation in appearing among my former connexions -- at the present I have no such intention, and nothing, short of your absolute commands, should deter me from my purpose. "

The "enlightened royalist french", the "Lafayette" side, his side until then, has lost the fight in Navarino along with Mehmet Ali's son who returned to Egypt, tail between legs. His host D'Anastasy (already consul in Alexandria July 1826) commences-Dec 1828- to sell his first greek and egyptian papyri to Leyden, Holland.
May 1827 Edgar boards the Constitution and, October 1827 witnesses the battle, yet declares to his foster(?) father that he is more than ever "....with a deeper satisfaction -- or did my heart swell with more honourable pride".
It has been stated that back in 1825 Edgar was an ardent american patriot as the complaints filed by George or William Townsend Washington suggest and this is later-on confirmed also by his 1831 declaration of intent to join Lafayette preparing his July revolution or the polish army!
On his return Edgar also believes that his recognition " If at all it will come speedily" and thus reveals he is aware then of the political struggle the result of which would either make or break a profrench poet.
He thinks apparently that Navarino was just another phase in the struggle between "royal" France and Britain, continues to place his bet on the former and is unble to comprehend that his "France" had already dissappeared after the battle. Allen, on the other hand, is more shrewed, belongs to the club that "fixed" the delayed and limited delivery of the frigates, he knows the IOU will never be repaid and looses hope for Edgar then and there.
Edgar then proceeds to publish his elaborate Al Aaraaf and approaches in Baltimore, May 1829, firstly William Wirt who was "just retired from active political life in Washington, author of 'Letters of a British Spy' and a man of considerable literary reputation. Poe left with Wirt(obviously a profrench politician) the manuscript of 'Al Aaraaf' and received from him a letter of advice rather than recommendation".
After Wirt's refusal Edgar approaches next the leader of the Baltimore philellhenes and friend of general Lafayette Mathew Carey who has become by then "Carey, Lea and Carey, a famous publishing firm". They also reject his work but Edgar insists, cuts bits off the original text of Al Aaaraf, modifies possibly others and finally "Al Aaraaf, Tamerlane and Minor Poems" is published by Hatch and Dunning in Baltimore in December, 1829.
The "political message" of the existing text of Al Aaraaf is of course neutral at best but it is quite clear that Edgar is being sarcastic to everybody including his Nesace-Ianthe, her family (run away with persian Saadi in his Gullistan) and his compatriots as well (the breath of science dimms the mirror of our joy):
Edgar thus tells us he made a big mess in his political role in the Levant and has also revealed to the officers of the Constitution his previous "greek" contacts. He uses his "other self" to find relief from his conscience and his top priority appears to be to become, at all cost, a recognised man of letters in the US. Politics interest him superficialy only and propably considers the subject beyond him. Allen's "inheritance" is his basic psychic security, absolution, last heaven.
Soon after however he reaches the "age of reason" firstly when Allen remarries, has male hires and disinherits him and secondly when Ianthe or Ianthe's mother is murdered in Zante in 1835 after the plot, in which Edgar was personaly involved or at least informed about(The Visionary-Assignation) materialises.
Edgar looses for ever hope marrying Ianthe(as Yanni's daughter he believes she is very rich still) when he learns the Zante news, sometime late 1835-early 1836. He next marries and soon after writes his controversial and perplexing "Marriage vow" indicating deep psychic problem already. He becomes unstable soon after and, towards the end of 1836, Whitte notices it and reacts. Edgar makes sure the Sonnet is published in January, is then dismissed from the Messenger and moves away from Richmond.
He tries to recover next, never mentions Ianthe-Zante again but the murder troubles his conscience. He spends time remembering, writing and tearing paper and remorse and, when quoting twenty months later Clanvill, Ligeia the corpse attempting a ressurection replaces and symbolises the murdered Ianthe of the Sonnet, the lovely wife or daughter of his "friend" who, by not yielding to the "superior powers" and paying the price, crossed for ever Edgar out from his small list of "real friends".
Yannis relations to Angelica Palli, the greek poetress living in Livorno, were examined and the possibility of her being Edgar's Ianthe/Annabel Lee was dismissed even if the name starts and ends sounding the same. Angelica is known to have fainted when viewing sometime around 1826, a mummy belonging to Yanni exhibited in Livorno where he often travelled and where the largest part of his collection was stored until 1835 at least.
Angelica herself suffers and dissappears from the scene after 1835 and, around 1840 or so, marries an italian who participates in the italian "risorgimento" of which Yanni wants no part whatsoever. Her relation to Yanni and "Mizraim" is certain but must further be investigated in Italy by italian "scholars".

Years later Edgar himself describes what happens to the, beyond any boundary, free irish spirit when contained in the "the barrier and the bar" of the early british education system, thus the schizzo personality of "William Wilson" is produced. Edgar never got rid of either personalities: Guilt and shame burdened him all through his life to the very end, he recognises it, he says: That's who I am; that's how I feel about it, this is just how much I suffered, how dearly I paid my mistakes, I am so sorry!
A rare spirit and a great poet ofcourse, but not the point of my research, really now!.

[legrand]

Tis the Poe Enthusiast said it best: "If true, this in and of itself, would constitute a significant shift in the historical understanding of the life of one of America's most influential authors, poets and literary critics. If true, it could further explain the man behind a brilliant mind."

It's time to "historically understand" Edgar as a Philhellene! It's time.

Legrand

[yanni]

The Announcement certainly leads to the "...historical understanding of the life of one of America's most influential authors, poets and literary critics. If true, it could further explain the man behind a brilliant mind" as Tis said, before losing his enthusiasm and riding west.
But the label "philelhellene" needs further elaboration I fear, dear Legrand.

[yanni]

You see, "philhellene" means "friend of the greeks" and Edgar's "colourfull"- etc etc as per Mr Chryssis- performance cannot be really defined as "philhellenic". There are many words starting or ending with "...phile..." but none includes the element of "material profit and reward". Other words exist for that kind of a relationship and "mercenary" is perhaps the wiser choice.
One has to be ever so carefull with labels, especially when characterizing ".America's most influential authors, poets and literary critics".

[yanni]

PUBLISHER WANTED!

Edgar may not have been a good philhellene, but a good riddle he certainly was!
A good riddle for his fellow americans, a good riddle for his so many fans worldwide, a good riddle no more because riddle "Edgar" is now solved!

Time and effort were spent to solve it as, to see find out why Edgar wrote Al Aaraaf, other riddles of the 18th and 19th century, all very relevant and interrelated to "Edgar" had to be solved as well (as per The Announcement and the Recap above).
When such riddles, so mysterious for so long, are solved, questions arise! Yanni does not have all the answers and is as perplexed and confused as every one else. Yanni also knows, too well, that "the whole truth" is well beyond anybody's grasp.
Therefore there are some questions he himself would like to place publicaly and he would be gratefull if someone would address them:
I. If Edgar the poet was a riddle, if, until now, nobody really knew and understood what the poor soul was writing about, then who, what and why, defined him as a "great poet"?
II. Do people normally define as "great", admire and worship everything beyond their own grasp and comprehension or was there a "system"-in the old days naturaly-promoting the "unclear and perplexing" instead of the "clear and straightforward" and if so, why?

The last question will automaticaly be answered if a publisher is found, or not, to undertake "Yanni's" book of riddles titled "Purple History".

Yanni will wait until the end of coming March for publishers to declare their relevant interest, after that he will continue The Announcement by publishing herein the solutions to other riddles solved starting with "Concino".

BTW the login process must be repeated twice before it occurs. Anybody knows why?

[legrand]

It seemed to me that Edgar was a "Philhellene" because of his travels to the Levant; now I am of the opinion that Edgar traveled to the Greek fight for independence for glory and likely for profit as he was very poor. Your term "mercenary" seems befitting, Yanni.

I'm beginning to wonder if Mr. Chryssis is going to respond to your concerns about William Townsend Washington. Certainly someone has or will contact Mr. Chryssis to comment on his statements about WTW.

To American fans of Edgar and those worldwide, where are you? What of this discovery by Yanni the Greek? American Poe "authorities" seem to be asleep, perhaps in a form of adolescence, unwilling to recognize something new and vital to the study of a past brilliant mind. Then again, maybe Edgar is not a riddle to them, maybe they know very well of Edgar's travels in the Levant and at all costs will cover this up.

Yanni, your last two questions may be answered with this: Emerson once said of someone's poetry something on the line of: "...it's wonderful for I do not understand it." Perhaps there was a "system of unclear and perplexity" employed in 19th century poetry.

I anxiously await "Purple History" and why without "Concino" there would have been no USA.

[yanni]

-"Edgar was a "Philhellene" because of his travels to the Levant" you thought!
The Levant hosted many travellers but no, they were not all phillehellenes.
The right use of words is the safeguard of "logic".
-About Concino and his riddle, you write "...without "Concino" there would have been no USA": I do confirm authorship of this exact phrase in a private email between us and I clarify it here so that readers are not confused.

Good day to you Legrand.

[yanni]

A deep religious conflict between protestants and roman catholics divided central Europe as well as France in the 16th century which resulted in Saint Bartholome's massacre of 1573 that further enlarged the conflict.
Fiorentine Maria di Medici (1573–1642), became queen of France after her marriage(1600) to Henry IV (ex Henry of Navarre 1533–1610). Henry's previous protestant marriage to Margarete de Valois (1553–1615) was annuled in 1599.
Henry was converted to roman-catholic to receive Rome's blessing and the crown of France in Paris but was murdered nevertheless in 1610 by a catholic priest named François Ravaillac. Maria became then Regent of France as her son Luis (Luis XIII, 1601–1643) was still a child.
During Maria's regency(1610-1617), a man named Concino Concini (also recorded as Conchino Conchini, christian names said to be Cosimo-Jean Baptiste or possibly Carlo), said to be Maria's lover, climbed to the top of the power ladder in France receiving, among others, the title of marhall of France. He thus became the target of other french nobles, mainly protestant-hugenots, who murdered both him and his wife Eleonora Calliga, dame de companie of queen Maria, in front of the Louvre palace in 1617.
"Protected" by the murderers, prince Luis, still below age, was then crowned King of France.
Regent Maria was exiled in Blois for five years, yet she reconciled later on with her son, returned to Paris in 1622 and befriended cardinal Richelieu (1585–1642). In 1630 however she fell again out of favour, was imprisoned in Compiegne wherefrom she escaped in 1631 and permanently fled France thereafter to die in Cologne, Germany in 1642.

Maria di Medici, founder of charity institutions, was surely the "mother" of all next "Luis" Bourbon Kings of France (until the unfortunate Luis XVI).
But....who was the real "father"?
Because, if Concino was not "shooting blanks" as it was rudely stated previously, then he was.
Matters of such delicate nature are somewhat "clouded" historicaly, thus the true identity of Concino Concini is still obscure today, his origins unknown, his name has been modified. Who was he really?

The above is just the prelude of the riddle however as the statement above "without Concino there would have been no USA" is reconfirmed and furthermore expanded as follows:

Without Concino there would have been no democratic France, no modern Greece and no US of A.

So the solution to the "real Concino riddle" includes both the revelation of Concino's true identity as well as the proof to this outrageous statement. Other statements made concerning the pentagon star as well as the Great Seal and its designer will also be documented as scheduled.

Why is all this placed under this "Poe" thread?
Because Edgar and his poetic-diplomatic blunders in the Levant have been the key to solve the "true Concino riddle".

[yanni]

Contemporary of Concino was a Doctor Robert Fludd (1574-1637), among the early fathers of western scientific thought. He also wrote "Silentium post clamores", thus both his verse below as well as the title of his specific work was found befitting to the Announcement and the reception it received thus far in the Literary Forum:

Farewell my freends let playne simplicity
Be stil your guide to lead you in your race
So shal ye neare approch to Vnity
And euermore obtayne from him his grace
For double dealers, false and treacherous men
Wil quickly be entrapt in Errours den."

(http://www.levity.com/alchemy/fludd1.html)

The word "Vnity" means "God" (Vinity=Divinity) whereas "Errour", written with a capital E, is none other than the scientist's "devil".

Unfortunately "divinity" derives from latin "di vinum" (=coming from "the spirit"=alcohol).....

A slippery language, latin....

[legrand]

Concino was the lover of Regent Maria. Was this as early as 1601 when Luis XIII was conceived....am I reading this correctly, was Concino father of Luis XIII then being "father" of the following Luis line?

Very interesting about Dr. Robert Fludd who is "contemporary" of Concino. What, if any, is their connection?

What were Edgar's "poetic-diplomatic blunders in the Levant"...can you elaborate?

I will anxiously await the "true Concino riddle" and why "without Concino there would have been no democratic France, no modern Greece and no US of A".

[yanni]

"Concino was the lover of Regent Maria. Was this as early as 1601 when Luis XIII was conceived....am I reading this correctly, was Concino father of Luis XIII then being "father" of the following Luis line?"
At the time of her marriage Maria di Medici was 27 years old, Concino was 25 and Henry 67. The marriage was arranged and furhthermore Henry was by then totally drained by the jaws of the religious conflict he was called upon to resolve.
Concino is recorded historicaly as Maria's lover and his death the result of the envy of french protestant nobility.
So, all historic "evidence" points to him being the real father of the french royal line.
Evidence being no proof however, the "real Concino riddle" will provide all "proof" needed to justify a DNA examination. As I said already, all riddles specified have been solved including Concino's..

"Very interesting about Dr. Robert Fludd who is "contemporary" of Concino. What, if any, is their connection?"
Science-alchemy-is the basic connection. Post on Fludd above was found "befitting" for reasons already stated (also see below).

"What were Edgar's "poetic-diplomatic blunders in the Levant"...can you elaborate?"
His diplomatic "blunders" have already been explained: He came to the Levant and acted as a "profrech George Townsend Washington" for a while but then his country's policy changed and was therefore forced to enlist as "Edgar Allen Perry" and participate/witness Navarino acting against the "enlightened royal french". He changed sides again upon his return to the States.
His poetic "blunder"-perhaps the term is incorrect-has been to be try to be sincere and record in code his experience in his verse (secrecy shall knowledge be in the environs of heaven).
Fludd's verse was found befitting Edgar: he was somewhere between "playne simplicity" and "..double dealers, false and treacherous men" and thus approached his "Vnity" with alcohol.

[yanni]

“French support was due entirely to Franklin,” says Ellen Cohn, editor of The Papers of Benjamin Franklin, a mammoth project sponsored by the American Philosophical Society and Yale University. “In terms of world fame, there is no question that during this time Franklin was the most famous American in the world. The French adored him. There were many images of Franklin circulating at this time; there was hardly a house in France that didn’t have one. Franklin himself had a part in popularizing his image when he arrived. I believe this was part of his plan to win the French over, a bit like an early spin campaign.” Part of that campaign involved exchanging the early image of Franklin in a fur hat with a much more dignified portrait to reflect the gravitas of his mission.

But pardon me, my dear madame, did the french have really no foreign policy then and was "Comte de Saint Germain" not Franklin's most intimate friend?


" Ha! ha! ha! — ha! ha! ha!.....
But pardon me, my dear sir, (here his tone of voice dropped to the very spirit of cordiality,) pardon me, my dear sir, for my uncharitable laughter.

[yanni]

Needless to say that the invitation as above to Mr Chryssis is further extended and cordially addressed to the learned members the Poe Society of Baltimore, the American Philosophical Society, Yale University as well as Mrs Ellen Cohn, editor of Benjamin Franklin papers.
Let Fludd's playne simplicity be our guide!

[yanni]

Hoping that among our "silent viewers", the distinguished Poe authorities newly invited as above are now included, we now return to Edgar and his personality as revealed in the Announcement so far.

Attention is next drawn to " The Cask of Amontillado" (published 1846) where our Edgar decides to forever entomb his "Fortunato"-his truth seeking younger irish self- so that "Montresor"- the other side, the "reasoning" scottish obviously, of his schizzo personality- stops being punished anymore from the thousand injuries the sincerity of the former already caused.

One is again reminded of Dr Fludd's "playne simplicity/Vnity" vs "double dealers, false and treacherous men/Errour's den" eternal conflict between truth and falsehood.

Other conclusions on Edgar may be drawn from the text but are of limited interest when compared to the observation that this conclusion-that he decides to "bury Truth" to surrvive-is totaly independent of whatever has been revealed so far in the Announcement, ie it can easily be drawn from the text of "The Cask" itself as it will be next explained:

According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary, "amontillado" metaphoricaly means "of dry speech or manner", ie sincere writing style. Furthemore, whereas he selects the word "Cask"-casket- in the title, later on in the text, he makes the distinction by using another word-pipe-thus the conclusion is indeed easily and independently reached, that Truth is buried.
The question arise therefore "Why has this simple observation not been made thus far? "

The "learned scholars" say practicaly nothing at all:

According to Hammond, "Whether the story is read as an allegory on the eternal conflict between the unimaginative man and the creative artist, or simply as a self-portrait of two aspects of Poe himself, 'The Cask of Amontillado' remains one of his most brilliantly written tales and one which deserves to be included in any anthology of horror."

At http://www.ivcc.edu/rambo/poe5.htm an english literature teacher named Rambo places 100 or so questions regarding the Cask of Amontillado but "forgets" to ask himself, or his students, the most elementary as above.

"Silentium inter clamores"

[yanni]

On the subject of the "learned scholars"as well as Edgar's death, a friend suggested a check at http://www.geocities.com/lord_visionary/uspresidentasmasons_1b.htm
There, The Cask of Amontillado as well as other works are mentioned and it is stated that Edgar was against George Washington and Ben Franklin because they were masons.
It is further implied that his murder had something to do with masons.

Quoting from the site:

" 1849-1850 Zachary Taylor, 12th. President of the United States (Whig) Confirmed Mason. Also a member of the Knights Of The Garter.
1849. October, 7. Edgar Allan Poe was murdered by a blow to the head. Poe was not a drunk or drug addict as history would lead you to believe and did not die from a drug overdose. (John F. Courtney, M.D. Addiction and Edgar Allan (sic) Poe, Resident and Staff Physician, January, 1971 p. 107-115). Poe was exposing the Mason's through many of his short stories. It was inevitable that Poe would not only run afoul of the festering secret society's but end a victim of their 'arguments'. He was not a passive recipient, and he did his best to immortalize a searing indictment in Masonry in at least four of his short stories.
1. The Cask of Amontillado. A Roman Catholic aristocrat takes revenge on his Freemason enemy by walling him into a corner of the family catacombs, thus destroying his life and freedom by masonry. (Kent Bales, "Poetic justice in the Cask of Amontillado", Poe Studies, 6, 1972, p. 51) Insult is added to injury in this tale since Poe drew its central character and basic narrative situation from the Freemason, Benjamin Franklin. Since the name of Franklin's hero is Montresor and this is of course the name Poe has chosen for his; that his source is indeed Franklin is confirmed by William H. Shurr ("Montresor's Audience" in the 'Cask of Amontillado' Poe Studies, 1, 1977)
2.The Devil in the Belfry. Published in The Philadelphia Saturday Chronicle of May 18, 1839. Poe satirizes president Martin Van Buren and his corrupt political machine in New York. (Poe's Political Satire, University of Texas studies in English, 35, 1956, 81-95-Burton R. Pollin, City University of New York)
3. Mellonta Tauta. This criticizes the aura of sanctimony which surrounds Mason George Washington, specifically in a tedious "George Washington cornerstone ceremony" Washington actually laid the cornerstone to the Capitol building in a full Masonic regalia and there is a widely circulated painting of this event. Washington's Masonic Apron "
4. Never Bet The Devil Your Head. This is Poe's most gruesome portrayal of Masonry and has some parallel to a well-known Masonic story - Kipling's "The Man Who Would Be King" in which esoteric bridge-symbolism forms an important backdrop. The man does not take the advice Poe's story offers and looses his head on a covered bridge. Royal Arch Masonry is obsessed with bridge symbolism (Princess Diana was murdered under a covered bridge) to the same extent that the Masonic grade of Ninth degree is up to it's neck in decapitation ritual.

(continued)

[yanni]

The wide but vague accusation against all Freemasons above fails to make any distinction between Edgar's "profrench" party that governed USA from the time of George Washington-Ben Franklin and the "probrits" that prevailed as from Andrew Jackson. The "study" furthermore does not examine the mentioned works in detail thus some comments are deemed necessary:

Regarding The Cask of Amontillado:
-"Yanni's" short interpretation above is further confirmed if Edgar's hero, Montresor, is taken to be either John Montresor, the engineer who constructed Fort Mifflin or his father J.G. Montresor, both french protestants who remained loyal british subjects throughout the American War of Independence
(see http://footguards.tripod.com/01ABOUT/montresor/000montresor.htm ).
There also was a Sir Francis Montresor among Franklin' corresponntents, propably related to the above.
-Franklin's (Bagatelles) Montresor is dying (as an atheist and is nevertheless granted a place in heaven by Saint Peter), however Edgar's Montresor lives and buries Fortunato, his otherself, a very basic difference. Fortunato is a mason and Montresor pretends also to be one.
-The "controversial" (G. R. Thompson- Shannon Burns) phrase "you, who so well know the nature of my soul" confirms Yanni's "dual personality" theory and is not at all controversial .

Regarding The Devil in the Belfry:
There is nothing indicating an attack against masons by Edgar in this work either. The tale's message is furthermore quite clear: He is being sarcastic to the "political system" in general then and confirms his "free irish spirit", already mentioned in the present "Announcement", by the actions and identity of his hero who concludes his mockery of the "ideal town" by annoyning the ". very red cabbages....out of all time and tune, with both hands, making a great show, the nincompoop! of playing Judy O'Flannagan and Paddy O'Rafferty."

In his "Mellonta Tauta", written propably April 1848, Edgar is inspired by George Washington's monument inauguration on October 19th 1847 "under the Auspices of the Washington Monument Association of the City of New York" and mocks directly both the republican system, the brits as well as the next US president Zacchary Taylor:

"As to the how of the surrender, no language can be more explicit. Lord Cornwallis was surrendered (for sausage) "under the auspices of the Washington Monument Association"- no doubt a charitable institution for the depositing of corner-stones.- But, Heaven bless me! what is the matter? Ah, I see- the balloon has collapsed, and we shall have a tumble into the sea. I have, therefore, only time enough to add that, from a hasty inspection of the fac-similes of newspapers, &c., &c., I find that the great men in those days among the Amriccans, were one John, a smith, and one Zacchary, a tailor.
Good-bye, until I see you again. Whether you ever get this letter or not is point of little importance, as I write altogether for my own amusement. I shall cork the MS. up in a bottle, however, and throw it into the sea. ".


In "Never Bet The Devil Your Head" Edgar does indeed relate masons to the devil himself (the man with the black silk apron in which he takes away Dammit's head),
refuses to obey them ("who is he? If he asks me to jump, I won't do it, that's flat, and I don't care who the devil he is") and makes sure he relates them to "The bridge, as I say, was arched and covered in, in a very ridiculous manner, and there was a most uncomfortable echo about it at all times- an echo which I never before so particularly observed as when I uttered the four last words of my remark."
Edgar ridicules Kant, Emmerson and all transcendentialist ("The end justifies the means, morals are subjective, nothing "in heaven") and suggests that men are all equal in fron of the inevitable:
"So in the end he grew worse, and at length died, a lesson to all riotous livers."

Concluding:

Edgar is well aware of the changes in philosophy also reflected in society and masonic history (french enlightement vs Weishaupt's Illuminism adopted by british lodges under the duke of Sussex) and attacks the latter only through his attack against US presidents belonging to this particular "side".
Edgar has never attacked either George Washington or Benjamin Franklin, both related to french enlightment philosophy and masonism.

Edgar never really buries his old "Fortunato" irish self, remains to the bitter end true to this side of his personality and, as he grows older, his writing is evidently more sincere than "conditions allowed". .

Obviously, everything written on him by "learned scholars", is partial.

[yanni]

A timeline of the Affaire du collier and Franklin's last letter before leaving France.

1784

May.Christening of baby Charles Edward Rohan-Stuart in Paris.

June The jesuits of Bavaria attack Weishaupt and his gang. Knigge resigns .

Nov Savalette de Lange(Saint Germain's "boy") suggests Cagliostro and Mesmer should be invited to the congress of Les Plilalethes.

Dec Cagliostro-as "Grand Copte"- establishes in Lyon "The mysteries of high egyptian masonry". Members receive the flamming star as a badge-symbol and thus participate in "Spiritual alchemy" (see Marsiglio Ficino, Florence).

1785

Jan According to the myth La Contesse La Motte-Valois tells cardinal de Rohan of the Queen's desire to purchase the necklace for her. She then orders the necklace from the jewlers on 21st Jan.

Feb 10th Les Philalethes invite Cagliostro to participate in their gathering, he accepts but then refuses to attend

March 12 St Germain is happy and writes a poem in favour of the lady where he dines every Wednesday.

March 27 future King Louis XVII is born

April 6th Cagliostro writes letter to the congress of les Philalethes and calls all members of the congress to abide by the rules of Egyptian Masonry and requests the archives of Les Philalethes be destroyed. Von Gleichen is ordered to go and meet him.

12th Cagliostro's demands are rejected.

13th Cagliostro replies:We offered you the truth but you rejected it. He takes however part in the meetings of the "Grand Orient"

May 13th Letter by Saint-Martin mentions that Willermoz. encouraged him and that he expects to be called to Lyon to hear and see for himself.

Ben Franklin's last letter before leaving Paris for the USA (to George Whatley, May 23, 1785).includes, just before the end, following interesting passage:
"My intended translator of your Piece, the only one I know who understands the _Subject_, as well as the two Languages, (which a translator ought to do, or he cannot make so good a Translation,) is at present occupied in an Affair that prevents his undertaking it but that will soon be over. I thank you for the Notes. I should be glad to have another of the printed Pamphlets."

May 28th Aug. Graefe in Hamburg, emmisary of The great Lodge of England, confronts Zinnendorff.

May 29th Correspondence between Saint-Martin καί Willermoz mentions "exquisite revelations", apparition of the "Saviour", resurrection of "Israel" and something magnificent they name "The thing"(La chose) and to phenomena of highest importance.

Middle of June Attempt against the life of Saint Germain.. .

June 30th Saint Martin is ready to go to Lyon to see the "thing" with his own eyes. Fifteen months later (Sept 1786) while in Paris declares sorry for his foolishness to have spoken so freely to certain of his brother masons .

July 4th Saint Martin receives the title "chevalier bienfaisant de la Cite Sainte" (Propably Jerusalem)

10th A certain "Jacob Lange" is found dead in Ratisbon. Papers found on his body uncover Weishaupt's Illuminati who are then persecuted. (The name chosen indicates the "package" was sent by St Germain).

[legrand]

Yanni, you write in your timeline about "Saint Martin is ready to go to Lyon to see the thing with his own eyes". What is this "thing" he is going to see? Could it be the Queen's Necklace?

From my first post on this forum I suggested that Edgar's tale The Gold Bug had hidden within a form of secret writing that made the plaintext of the cryptogram of the tale a house for a secret message. What I did not say was that that message alluded to hidden diamonds in a mansion in Philadelphia. The tale The Gold Bug in describing the treasure says that the settings that once held great diamonds were hammered as if to prevent recognition as to what they were. Could there be a common thread between Edgar (and his tale The Gold Bug), Franklin and the Queen's Necklace?

[yanni]

Yanni, you write in your timeline about "Saint Martin is ready to go to Lyon to see the thing with his own eyes". What is this "thing" he is going to see? Could it be the Queen's Necklace?

Firstly here is what "learned scholars have to say on the Affaire:

It .....was, according to Nesta Webster, the first act of the revolutionary drama. "The famous 'Affair of the Necklace' can never be understood in the pages of official history: only an examination of the mechanism provided by the secret societies can explain that extraordinary episode which, in the opinion of Napoleon, contributed more than any other cause to the explosion of 1789.
In its double attack on Church and Monarchy, the Affair of the Necklace fulfilled the purpose of both Frederick the Great and of the Illuminati.
Cagliostro, we know, received both money and instructions from the Order for carrying out the plot, and after it had ended in his own and the Cardinal de Rohan's exoneration and exile, we find him embarking on fresh secret-society work in London..." According to Eco's chronology, the Affair of the Diamond Necklace was orchestrated by Cagliostro. Dumas describes it as a Masonic plot to discredit the Monarchy.

Imo the Affaire included the full Stuart regalia(Crown and jewels, sword etc) as well as their claim to the throne of England and was part of a secret treaty.

See it in the context of the geopolitical events and some keyplayers:

January 1784 US Congress approves the Treaty of Paris whereby England and France agree the war is over.
February 1784 Saint Germain declares himself dead in Schleswig Holstein.
March 1784 Cardinal de Rohan meets Marie Antoinette in Versailles.
Charles Stuart nominates in his will his brother Cardinal Henry, de jure Duke of York, his sole heir and successor. Henry at the time shares the same roof with his lover, cardinal Cesarini, in Rome. Nobody knows where the Stuart regalia are then.

---the timeline as above---

August 1785, De Rohan , Lamotte and Cagliostro are arrested in Paris.
May 1786 Cardinal de Rohan is aquitted, deLamotte is condemned but "escapes to London" to join her husband and the "jewels", Cagliostro is released (and is, soon after, received with honors in London but Morande reveals his Balsamo identity).
July -Important documents are stolen from St Germain's lodgings in Paris.
-Hamburg Germany: Masons accept the superiority of the Grand Lodge of England.
August:-French finance minister Calonne presents his reform bill to the King.
- Zinnendorff is replaced by Von Exter who is appointed rovisional Grand Maitre of Hamburg and Lower Saxony.
-England and France sign treaty to free commerce.
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-1818. Walter Scott discovers the "Stuart regalia" in Edinborough Castle.

From my first post on this forum I suggested that Edgar's tale The Gold Bug had hidden within a form of secret writing that made the plaintext of the cryptogram of the tale a house for a secret message. What I did not say was that that message alluded to hidden diamonds in a mansion in Philadelphia. The tale The Gold Bug in describing the treasure says that the settings that once held great diamonds were hammered as if to prevent recognition as to what they were. Could there be a common thread between Edgar (and his tale The Gold Bug), Franklin and the Queen's Necklace?

As already stated, in his Visionary-Assignation Edgar reveals that he knows the identities of both Sain Germain and "Yanni d'Anastasy", his successor, and their family connection. He propably knows all about the Affaire as well and had some kind of access to the papers of Ben.Franklin while at Jefferson University.

In my previous post above, reference was made to a passage from Franklin's last letter which refers, imo, to Saint Germain and his involvement in the specific "Affair"!! Franklin believes it will be soon shorted out and his friend will be able then to translate Whatley's piece, ie Franklin is not yet ready to leave Paris then. A couple of weeks later however an assasination attempt is made against St Germain (documentation to be provided when his identity is revealed), so Franklin propably expedites his departure as things are looking already ugly then.

Imo "The Gold Bug" along with the Beale papers is a fantastic hoax Edgar writes specificaly for his protestant readers fexceeding themselves searching for "treasure" in the most unlikely places. Edgar believes in life after death and heavenly values, they don't!

It will all be sorted out when St Germain's identity is revealed and "Concino's riddle" is solved early Arpil.

[yanni]

Una Birch and Nesta Webster, particularly the latter, are the best available sources for info on secret societies. The "other side" unfortunately, secret societies, still do not believe in opening up their archives to the public.
Below some quotes on St Germain from their works:

"...an enigmatic personality of unusual power and numberless parts. He has been dead a little more than a century, and so in time is almost one of ourselves ; he lived surrounded by spies and secret agents ; he took no pains to conceal his habits from the world, and yet he remains a mystery. He was involved in many of the most important events of the eighteenth century and was responsible for much of its diplomacy. Some day, perhaps, his life may be set down as a consecutive story inspired by a definite aim. It is a work worth doing, for it would prove whether Saint-Germain was, as men have so often called him, a charlatan, or whether he was, as some believe him to have been, a political genius of unrivalled ambition and great accomplishment."

"The Comte de Saint-Germain, another of Weishaupt’s ambassadors, emerges at intervals upon the surface of affairs a brilliant and accomplished personage, and sinks again to work in the great secret service, or to sit, as tradition has it, upon his golden altar in an attitude of Oriental absorption. Saint-Germain was probably not only the secret missionary and entertainer of Louis XV., but also the agent of masonic and other societies working for the regeneration of humanity ; one life was probably only the cloak for the other."
(No, he was not Weishaupt "ambassador", Cagliostro was and the latter's link to London very revealing).

"Saint-Germain has been represented by modern writers—not only those who compose his following—as a person of extraordinary attainments, a sort of super-man towering over the minor magicians of his day. Contemporaries, however, take him less seriously and represent him rather as an expert charlatan whom the wits of the salons made the butt of pleasantries. His principal importance to the subject of this book consists, however, in his influence on the secret societies. According to the Mémoires authentiques pour servir à l’histoire du Comte de Cagliostro, Saint-Germain was the “ Grand Master of Freemasonry,”[50] and it was he who initiated Cagliostro into the mysteries of Egyptian masonry."

also see http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/webster_n.html on Nesta Webster
This canadian Lodge attacks Webster and puts St Germain and Cagliostro in "the same basket":
"She fails to define the part that is not disputed. This vagueness allows her to imply that such colourful charlatans as the Comptes de Saint-Germain and de Cagliostro were persons of influence and authority. She also claims, based on hearsay, that they were both Jews. She uses this as further proof of a Jewish inspiration for the prevalence of occultism and mysticism in pre-revolutionary Europe."

A charlatan, huh ?

"Marie Antoinette was deeply interested in matters and men of this nature. De Rohan entertained her with tales of Cagliostro ; she consulted Saint-Germain, and was one of the visitors who clustered round the mysterious fluid of the hypnotic doctor Mesmer, which was calculated to heal all ills, and who listened to his dictum, “ There is but one health, one illness, and one remedy.” Though Mesmer’s experiments were rejected by the French savants of the day as worthless, they were eagerly taken up in other parts of Europe. Mesmer enforced the law of mutual dependence and of unity in the natural world, as Saint-Martin enforced the laws of mutual dependence and of unity in the spiritual world. It might well have been Saint-Martin and not Mesmer who said, “ that the life of man is part of the universal movement,” for they were both exponents of the truth of the solidarity of the race."
(Una Birch admits here she knows St Germain did not really die earlier on in Germany but was alive at the time of the Affaire, an indication that he was the same person as the "other St Germain-ministre de guerre").

It will all be soon sorted out!

BTW St Germain's experiments on "flax", early 1770 in Venice as count Saltycov, refer to his invention of the "brulot"-fire ship (Flax=flox, grk for fire and not flax the plant).
See:
http://www.hermetics.org/brc-17.html
(The Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross By Arthur Edward Waite London, 1924)
CHAPTER XVII
SAINT-GERMAIN AND CAGLIOSTRO
"The Graf Max von Lamberg met him in Venice under an assumed name, engaged in experiments on flax, and in July, 1770, they were staying together at Tunis.He is said also to have been at Leghorn in the same year during a visit of the Russian fleet, when he wore a Russian uniform "and was called Graf Saltikoff by the Graf Alexis Orloff." I have not met with confirmation of this story."

[yanni]

St Germain scouted Britain ahead of the unsuccesfull Stuart invasion of Scotland. He was arested for spying, managed to fool his captors and later charmed the London upper class with his musical talent. The artistic name he adopted as a musician-composer-they said he was at least as good as Handel- was Giovanni (Yanni in grk).

See following sites below:

http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/146_stgermain.shtml

"...the Count of St-Germain is one of the most intriguing mystery-men of the 18th century."
By DOUG SKINNER.

“The Provost of Edinborough is in custody of a messenger, and t’other day they seized an odd man, who goes by the name of Comte St-Germain. He has been here these two years, will not tell who he is or whence, but professes two very wonderful things, the first that he does not go by his right name; and the second that he never had any dealings, or desire to have any dealings with any woman – nay, nor with any succedaneum. He sings, plays on the violin wonderfully, composes, is mad, and not very sensible. He is called an Italian, a Spaniard, a Pole, a somebody that married a great fortune in Mexico, and ran away with her jewels to Constantinople, a priest, a fiddler, a vast nobleman. The Prince of Wales has had unsatiated curiosity about him, but in vain. However, nothing has been made out against him, he is released; and what convinces me that he is not a gentleman, stays here, and talks of his being taken up for a spy.” 2

Curiously, the Count’s disdain for succedanea was censored by Walpole’s editors until 1954. Maybe they didn’t want to offend succedanea. There’s much to say about this first swatch of gossip; I’ll confine myself to pointing out that the Count is a burlesque figure here, but obviously much talked about. He must have made quite an impression.The next year, some of his music is performed and published in London.

For the Count's next musical performances in London see:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3870/is_200301/ai_n9231891

"He is an Odd Creature, & the more I see him the more curious I am to know something about him. He is everything with everybody: he talks Ingeniously with Mr. Wray, Philosophy with Ld. Willoughby, & is gallant with Miss Yorke, Miss Carpenter & all the Young Ladies. But the Character of Philosopher is what he seems to pretend to, & to be a good deal conceited of: the Others are put on to comply with Les Manieres du Monde, but That you are to suppose his real Characteristick; & I can't but fancy he is a great Pretender in all kinds of Science, as well as that he really has acquired an uncommon Share in some. - Well! so much for Monsr. le Comte de St. Germain, whom neither you nor I have anything to do with, (though he inquir'd very kindly after you)"

"Horace Walpole reports that Saint-Germain 'spoke Italian and French with the greatest facility, though it was evident that neither was his language; he understood Polish, and soon learnt to understand English and talk it a little. [...] But Spanish or Portuguese seemed his natural language.' Of his musicianship, Walpole writes that 'he sung in a most agreeable taste, but with little or no voice' and characterised his violin playing as exquisite. Lady Jemima concurs that his 'excellence is softness' and that his voice is so quiet (except when he rages) 'that in a large Room it is quite lost'. Walpole's conclusion is that Saint-Germain 'was a man of Quality who had been in or designed for the Church. He was too great a musician not to have been famous if he had not been a gentleman.'"

[yanni]

Last two posts were intented to guide the silent viewer to read and learn all about the "mysterious personality" of "charlatan" St Germain as depicted by various "authorities" who, not surprisingly, claim ignorance as to his identity and origins.
Insisting they don't know who he really was-they claim in fact only Luis XV knew that-they spare no effort to distinguish him from their fictitious "Claude-Luis comte de Saint Germain", war ninister of France (27 October 1775 -27 September 1777).

Una Birch, linking Saint Germain to Marie Antoinette and the Mesmer period of 1784-5 (see U.B. "Secret Societies and the french revolution" at http://yamaguchy.netfirms.com/una/una_rev.html) doubts the existence of two different Sain Germains and so does Mme Campan in her book on Marie Antoinette (http://www.authorama.com/memoirs-of-marie-antoinette-10.html) as per following paragraph:

"In 1775, on the death of the Marechal du Muy, the ascendency obtained by the sect of innovators occasioned M. de Saint-Germain to be recalled to Court and made Minister of War. His first care was the destruction of the King’s military household establishment, an imposing and effectual rampart round the sovereign power."

Saint Germain did indeed belong to the "innovators" and furthermore one does not need be a professor of the english language to understand that "To be recalled to court" refers to someone who was already there before, in some official capacity or other-in this case as a foreign policy advisor to the King, a position the real Saint Germain is known to have had -a privilege unfortunately never granted to the "fake" Saint Germain by any french King or by the many "historians" who wrote the virtual biography of "Claude-Luis".

The one and only Saint Germain acted indeed as the advisor to Luis XV, as his confident embassador to friendly courts and as his spy sometimes. What Mme Campan really says is he maintained this position until Luis XV death in 1774 (in parallel with his opponent in court, the famous de Choiseul until his "disgrace").

When Saint Germain's identity and origins are revealed, as scheduled* , it will all be sorted out and the point made here is just to show what blundering amateurs the particular "historians" really are.

A third indication- evidence rather-is of course Edgar himself as described so far in this "Announcement" by the interpretation of Sonnet to Zante, Al Aaraaf and some comments made regarding The Assignation or Visionary.

This last work is now been studied in more detail and a relative interpretation will follow soon.

*Early April this year (so that descendents of Saint Germain's in France, a large and important family, as well as any relevant authorities have the time to present their objections if any. They have been already advised by mail post December last).

[yanni]

In previous posts it was stated that Edgar's description of the mysterious man in The Visionary "fits Saint Germain like a glove" and that, in this particular tale, Edgar reveals he knew the true identity of both Saint Germain as well as of Yanni D'Anastasy, his successsor and relative.

How were these conclusions drawn?

Edgar's hero has following characteristics:
- "the graceful person of a very young man, with the sound of whose name the greater part of Europe was then ringing"
- "who to all the world was still a stranger"
- "below rather than above the medium size"
- "Herculean strength which he has been known to wield without an effort, upon occasions of more dangerous emergency. With the mouth and chin of a deity —singular, wild, full, liquid eyes, whose shadows varied from pure hazel to intense and brilliant jet —and a profusion of curling, black hair, from which a forehead of unusual breadth gleamed forth at intervals all light and ivory"
- "his were features than which I have seen none more classically regular"
- "wealthy. Report had spoken of his possessions in terms which I had even ventured to call terms of ridiculous exaggeration.."
- "... peculiarity of spirit which seemed to place him so essentially apart from all other human beings, than by calling it a habit of intense and continual thought, pervading even his most trivial actions —intruding upon his moments of dalliance —and interweaving itself with his very flashes of merriment —"
He owns a
"....Palazzo, one of those huge structures of gloomy, yet fantastic pomp, which tower above the waters of the Grand Canal in the vicinity of the Rialto. "
in which he keeps a rare ancient and modern art art collection
- the grotesques of the Greek painters, nor the sculptures of the best Italian days, nor the huge carvings of untutored Egypt.
- my statues —my pictures —my originality of conception in architecture and upholstery —absolutely drunk, eh? with my magnificence?
a truly "little regal cabinet" where he keeps
- "..some chefs d'oeuvre of the unknown great —and here unfinished designs by men, celebrated in their day, whose very names the perspicacity of the academies has left to silence and to me".

When his identity is revealed it will be shown that all these rare qualities and characteristics do fit indeed Saint Germain "like a glove" but that's not all:
As if Edgar knew his tale would be misinterpreted later on by his "fans, enthusiasts learned scholars" etc , he also forsees and provides them with the "cherry to the pie"!:

- "Once I was myself a decorist" wants his hero saying.

A decorist?
Saint Germain?

The "learned scholars" in various "sources" do describe him as an excelllent musician, an art expert and an amateur painter but was he ever a "decorist" by profession ?

Yes, the truth is that he also was a famous "master craftsman" an artist whose "decorative" work is to be seen in Museums world wide, in his Louvre and in Versailles, in private collections and in many homes and libraries as well (reproductions).

(continued)

[yanni]

(continud from previous post)

What else does Edgar tell us in his tale?

Twice, in the introduction, he defines that his work is partly imaginative.

"ILL-FATED and mysterious man! —bewildered in the brilliancy of thine own and fallen in the flames of thine own youth! Again in fancy I behold thee!.... not —oh not as thou art... Yes! I repeat it-as thou shouldst be"

Thus his hero, the "mystery man" who promised an hour in paradise (contessa Mentoni) to Edgar, and fooled him through the double suicide , ie Yanni d'Anastasy,his host in the Levant and St Germain's successor, MUST have all qualities and characteristics of his predecessor who died in Paris in 1790, MUST behave accordingly and MUST also have a fitting fate, he must die laughing, a glorious death in action, instead of double suicide together with their beloved (contessa Mentoni impersonating apparently their faith and beliefs)

He MUST stand:

"....up There like a Roman statue! He will stand Till Death hath made him marble!"

Edgar knew of course then, in 1834, that Yanni had instead already selected to stay alive and was doing his best to survive in a world so different from the one St Germain had created in is life time.
(In short: France the central power of an allied Europe including Russia (and with the greek revolution brewing eversince Orlof, 1770-1774), Britain "contained" and the newly established US, ex brit colony, also profrench. The great religious divide, cause for so many religious wars already, would be bridged by an "all inclusive" new religion, the egyptian rite, intented to accomodate different christian dogmas as well as jews and, possibly muslims as well. The "market forces", the jacobins and finally Napoleon and the brits undid just this plan between 1790 and 1834!)

Edgar himself also believes, as he admits in Al Aaraaf, that his

"... world,I left so late was into chaos hurl'd"

but, loosing all remaining hope after Lafayette's failed coup in 1831 and his disinheritance by Allen, he is in a state of disillusinonment and writes the particular tale blaming Yanni-who was also not favouring Edgar's relation to his daughter "Ianthe" before- for selling to the highest bidder, eversince 1828, his precious scientific greek papyri collection and other egyptian papyri- till then of unknown content- the source of all ancient "wisdom", the "power" of this new "religion of science and gnosis", as well as other relics and works of art from the collection of St Germain.
Edgar propably knows all about it as he has some relations with a Baltimore Museum as stated before.

Yanni on the other hand was obliged to live and survive in this "new world" and although his family and himself did their best to create Modern Greece, after 1831 and the murder of governor Capodistria, his homeland is a "protectorate" and he and his family in constant danger as the 1835 murder of his wife and relatives in Zante shows.

Edgar suspects Yanni for developing too close relations to the brits and has him writing, while crying, a poem in english, a language...

.....with which I had not believed their author acquainted —afforded me little matter for surprise. I was too well aware of the extent of his acquirements, and of the singular pleasure he took in concealing them from observation, to be astonished at any similar discovery; but the place of date, I must confess, occasioned me no little amazement. It had been originally written London
.

..and goes as far as doubting both the sincerity of his idol as well as his origins, obviously unknown to Edgar...

....his answer, if I mistake not, gave me to understand that he had never visited the metropolis of Great Britain. I might as well here mention, that I have more than once heard, (without of course giving credit to a report involving so many improbabilities,) that the person of whom I speak was not only by birth, but in education, an Englishman.

The poem ...

written in a hand so very different from the peculiar characters of my acquaintance, that I had some difficulty in recognising it as his own.

Thou wast that all to me, love,
For which my soul did pine —
A green isle in the sea, love,
A fountain and a shrine, etc

expresses Edgar's deep sorrow for the world he has lost and his memories of the green isle, Zante, where he spent some of the happiest hours of his youth, the birthplace (shrine) of the Rite of Mizraim that inspired the designers of the Great Seal.

By his

"With one exception you are the only human being besides myself and my valet, who has been admitted within the mysteries of these imperial precincts, since they have been bedizened as you see!"


Edgar reconfirms he knows all about St Germain and Yanni (who btw indeed had a vallet named Triantaphyllos). The "one exception" hints at the possibility of a leak-betrayal of Yanni's "St Germain" secret.
(In 1833 Yanni gives J.G.Wilikinson access to his collection in Alex, see www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/1900/wilkinson/wilkinson.html or, if site does not load, search for:"ANASTASI (Giovanni) 1780-1860 Drawings of objects in the collection of, c. 1833 MS. Wilkinson dep. e. 60, pp. 242-243a, 244" )

The tale furthermore relates Yanni-St Germain to Florence (Politian's Orfeo) and Greece (Sparta-Palaiohori) and Edgar reconfirms his presence there before also by using a third "difficult" greek word "Gelasma" (laughter).

Later on in life Edgar does indeed follow his virtual hero's example, to die laughing, and goes on to mock and ridicule all "enemies" of his old world in his work, therefore any previous statements made refering to his eventual role as a "spy for the brits" are false although the Tale first apoeared under the Title "Assignation", January 1834 (The Lady's Book).
Possibly Edgar "assigns" to Yanni the ideal qualities and behaviour the latter should have exhibited in Edgar's opinion.

[yanni]

A note for the benefit of the unknown silent viewer and the declared Poe scholar- enthusiast. (Innocent bystanders need not read through)!

You better believe it viewer: In this here Announcement, E.A.Poe's "puzzle" has been solved!

If ever "scholars" will accept it, it's another matter! They'll certainly find Yanni's "new" Edgar as disturbing as contemporary "critics" and "caretakers" found the original and they'll end up, as usually, counting costs!

How much good cloth and tailor work was already spent to camouflage Edgar under an "appropriate" motley fool costume, how much ink, paint, solvent and literary "genius" to "interpret" his work "properly".

But it is quite immaterial what word manipulators and truth benders do, it's no big deal, no surprise, no setback, NOT important.

Although, as stated, Edgar was not the focus of this research (that's why the Announcement bears the title "Two works decoded" but later on in the proccess other works are decoded as well), Edgar's rare characteristic, to react and not give in to "pressures", remain his own man to the end and stay sincere by choice, makes him a trustworthy source and important material witness.
His testimony fully supports Yanni's riddle solutions. That IS important!

Furthermore the way his testimony was "taken", by this peculiar and extraordinary communication between an american 19th century poet and a retired greek engineer of the 21st, IS ALSO important!

("Till silence shall knowledge be in the environs of heaven"? You didn't really mean it Edgar, did you?)

Why is it then not important what the "scholars" do?

Because more surprises, bigger than Edgar's, are in the works for them:

When the key to said riddles is provided as scheduled, the stir created will penetrate all "selective hearing" earplugs. .

As his miracle world is approaching fast, Yanni advises all concerned to "plug-off" accordingly.

[yanni]

Edgar's friend, Giovanni d'Anastasy, remained until now a "mystery" for aegyptologists as well. British records in particular want him to be of armenian origins and insist he was a different person than another "digger" employed by the british consul in Alex, Henri Salt, by the name Giovanni d'Athanasy or "Yanni" This "other" Yanni was italian Belzoni's supervisor and the first european to enter-Belzoni was too big to fit the entrance- the Cheffren Pyramid near Cairo on March 1818 and also the one who downed the Philae Obelisk in 1821 etc.

Following quote is indicatory: "Giovanni D’Athanasi left Egypt for London, England in 1835. His share of the artifacts that he and his crews helped recover were sold at auctions in 1835, 1837, and 1845. D’Athanasi died nine years later on December 19, 1854. (Written by Andrew Brown, 2003)."

They "have it" all wrong, the one and only Yanni died in 1860 in Alex ("D'Athanasi's" 1854 death is not supported by what's called "concrete evidence" as research showed. A "cover up" was staged then for some reason or other).

His biography, compiled following info exchange with competent aegyptologists (they are wellcome to dispute it publicaly if they so desire), when combined with Yanni's family history, leaves no doubt that the two "Giovannis" are one and the same and, over and above any other conclusions reached of historic rather than archaeological interest, also shows that he was an expert "aegyptologist" with a truly immense collection.

Yanni's collection, partly inherited from his family (the papyri mostly) , led to the creation of the aegyptian departments of Le Louvre, The Leyden Museum in Holland and the British Museum as well . (The papyri known as "Sallier", as well as MANY others, also came originaly from Yanni's "family library". They were propably sold to Sallier earlier on(1800-1820) by Yanni's father, Anastasi, aka Athanasi )

Yanni's biography will be published herein early April but the following part will be revealed now:

As it became later on (1835, London) apparent, Yanni "d'Athanasi" was not just (or perhaps at all) "employed" by Henri Salt but was certainly his "business partner". Together therefore they sold "their" first collection of 4000 pieces to Paris France sometime 1825 with Jean-François Champollion, Yanni's friend, acting as intermediary. That is how the the "Aegyptian" department of Le Louvre was first created May, 1826. Shortly after Champollion was appointed its first director-curator. .

(Noteworthy that an architect LaFontaine set up the collection at Louvre: Yanni himself had a James Lafontaine uncle in Smyrne as from 1796-7 whereas Saint Germain himself was also very well aquainted with Lafontaine, the writer of greek myths and tales.)

Yanni reassumed his "D'Anastasy" name when appointed consul of Sweden in Alex in 1826 and by this name sold next his famous alchemy papyri to Leyden at the turn of 1827-28, after Navarino and Salt's death. .

"D'Athanasi" then reappears as follows:

On May 28th 1835 on Sothebys second edition of a "Catalogue for auction, the property of Henry Salt, on Monday 29th of June 1835 and for eight following days: "Much assistance in the.... present Catalogue ....from Giovanni d'Athanasi who was sent over to this country with the view of rendering every information...., but...as d'Athanasi has prepared for publication a most interesting "Account of his researches in Egypt"....some details in the translation however have delayed publication of the latter."

According to the above "Advertisement", in the period 1819-1824 Salt employed Yanni in other duties. Some items collected by Salt during this time were sold to France for 10000 pounds in 1826, however "as from 1824 until shortly before Salt's death the 27th Oct 1827 Yanni was collecting on Salt's behalf and sending items to Livorno until early October 1827".

All the above has already been proven fictitious and furthermore Yanni's own account ("Athanasi, Giovanni d’, A Brief Account of the Researches and Discoveries in Upper Egypt made under the Direction of Henry Salt Esq, London 1836-unfortunately a copy was not made available as requested by the undersigned) is also not to be taken seriously as both his british protectors and relatives (J.G.Wilkinson's brother was married to Yanni's niece in Alex in 1824) as well as Yanni himself, have their reasons not to tell the truth.

Yanni was "sent over" to London 1834-5 not just to publish this book and assist Sothebys in writing their "catalogue":

The late Henri Salt "collection" was auctioned and Yanni had an "interest" in it, as the story now goes, but there are faults in this new scenario as well:

-Letter of Catherwood to Hay 12 Feb 1836:.....Yanni Athanasi has sent a small collection for sale at Sotheby's. They will be brought to hammer in a few days.Just before he quitted England he met a friend of mine in the street and being dressed in deep mourning he was asked the reason and replied that: Signor Madox, non posso piangere, ma mia moglie e morte, e inutile di piangere. (Yanni left London late 1835, Madox met him shortly before).

-Protocol of the standing comitte of the British Museum dated April 1836: A letter received the 29th of March is read by J.G.Wilikinson: Consul D'Anastasy is offering his collection (stored partly in Livorno and partly in Alexandria) for sale asking 6000 pounds sterling. J.G.W has seen the alexandrian part and is positive re the purchase and the asking price. The board deferred consideration until the british consul in Livorno sees the collection stored there .

In other words not just the late Henri Salt but also the two "Yannis", all decided, for some reason or other, to get rid of their collection, at the same time.....

(The two Yannis, coincidentaly, both stored their colection in Livorno as well...)

And then comes Edgar with his Jan1837-first publ- "Sonnet to Zante" crying for the death of his fair maiden...

Anyway, this is how Giovanni D'Athanasy or D'Anastasy or Ivan Avanassiev "put to hammer" in 1835, 1837 and 1845 the greatest part of his collection, including 44 papyri, that is now at the Brirish Museum:

AFTER the murder of his wife and family in Zante.

[yanni]

The number of viewers of last post above neccessitates to address again the subject of Yanni's "magical papyri":

Quote from earlier post:

"Yanni had in his possesion until 1828 "magical" papyri used possibly by Saint Germain and certainly by Cagliostro-Balsamo before his capture and imprisonment in Rome. (Known as PGMxii 474-95 and PDMxii 135-64, they are to be found at the National Museum of Antiquities at Leiden Holland and have been the subject of long discussions concerning the presence or not of prophet Abraham in Egypt. Problem is that the holy man's name is followed in the papyri by the name "Walsamo", ie Balsamo written as the name is pronounced in the greek language, propably by Mr Cagliostro himself)."

These papyri are on their own proof enough of the close links between Yanni and St Germain that will be revealed later on here.

[yanni]

Let's focus on these papyri further:

http://www.lightplanet.com/response/BofAbraham/GeeEnsign1992/abraham_egyptian.htm

1. The first reference occurs in a chapter on how to make a signet ring. One of the steps is to “bring a white stone” and “write this name upon it … : Abraham, friend of m[an].” 3 (PDMxii 6-20; compare Rev. 2:17; D&C 130:10-11; Abr. 3:1.)

2. The second instance of Abraham’s name occurs in a description of how to use a ring to obtain “success and grace and victory.” As part of his invocation, the petitioner says, “O mighty god, who surpassest all powers, I call upon thee, Iao, Sabaoth, Adonai, Elohim, [six other names], Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, [82 more names].” The first four names are Hebrew for “LORD of hosts, my Lord, God.” (PGMxii 270-321.)

3. The third mention of Abraham comes from the same papyrus as the first two references. It is accompanied by a picture, a lion couch scene similar to the one in facsimile no. 1 of the book of Abraham, but this picture is oriented in reverse. Part of the text, a love charm, reads: “Let Abraham who … I adjure you by … and incinerate so-and-so daughter of so-and-so. Write these words and draw this image on a new papyrus.” Later in the text we read, “I adjure you spirits of the dead, [by] the dead (pharaohs) 4 and the demon Balsamos and the jackal-headed god and the gods who are with him.” (PGMxii 474-95, PDMxii 135-64.)

A few explanations are in order: “Balsamos” is probably Baalshammayim (lord of the heavens), an old Phoenician and Canaanite god whom they believed created the earth.


The text does not read "Abraham" to beginn with, it is in greek and, according to other sholars, it reads "Avrahas" (alpha, beta-pronounced veta- ro, alpha, chi, alpha, sigma)

So the question arises:

Why did the old scribe write "Avrahas" (18th cent greek pronunciation of the name as it had then evolved in the Levant ) instead of Avraham as the name was written on the first greek copies of the New Testament?

An obvious forgery, Yanni says!

"Baalshammayim"?

Why not Balsamo, why not "deamon" Cagliostro?

Was he not the forger who presented himself as the "grand copte" and prophet?

Did he not himself admit-to get aquitted after his arrest in Paris after the "Affair"- that he worked as a "copyist" for cardinals York (Stuart) and Orsini ? (His only "Memoirs" to his lawyer Thirolier, 1786. Thirolier Jaques was related to the Bourbons and died shortly after).

What happened to Cagliostro's papyri when they were confiscated in Paris and how did Yanni obtain them?


Spectrography would define exactly what part of the papyrus is authentic and what not but Leyden has never published any tests made and does not even reply to relative letters from greek amateur aegyptologists.

There is a tail to this story, a cherry to this pie as well, but why disturb count Cagliostro's law abiding learned descendants?

Why indeed?

[yanni]

How can you really expect answers, viewer, to questions never raised by you?

Yes, "contessa" Serafina did bear at least one child and there are today Balsamo -Cagliostro's descendants" and....

....No, Yanni will not disclose who they are. because of etiquette and because, as stated, there is no need to disturb them .

"To disturb" as per the Concise Oxford dictionary, means "to agitate, trouble, disquiet, unsettle, perplex" and is composed of latin DIS and "turba", meaning "the crowd".

"Crowd" is crowd of course but what is DIS?

There are afterall, so many english words starting with "dis", all somehow displeasing, discomforting, distressing, it is perhaps worthwhile to have a go at it, what it means.

DIS is a truly "holy" word, it has to do with God.

DIS, as per the c.o.d. again, originates from dvis=grk dis meaning twice.

Another greek word "dias" (delta, iota, alpha, sigma) means "duality" and "pair" when written with a small delta but, when written with a capital Delta, it becomes Dias ie Zeus ie the top man of the ancient greek religion. Furthermore another greek word for "dias-pair" is "zeugos" and so duality is again reconfirmed and deified.

Thus the surprising conclusion that a godly greek word, DIS, duality, expresses today discomfort etc in the english language, the difficulty and discomfort perhaps of human communication

If this is what happens to DIS let us next examine what became of the singularity, the uniqueness, the solitude and egoism of "one"

One, the unit, in grk is "EN" and there are even more english words starting with "en" and "em" (en before b,p and m becomes em) than those starting with DIS.

Enema excluded, the rest of words starting with EN have normaly an empowering, emancipating, enforcing, emphatic and engranding quality with some emetic, empathic, empyrian and entropic side effects however.

It's not that the greeks did not care for "individual rights", just the opposite in fact, they went however a step further and placed a higher value to society and democracy and that's why they deified duality and, naturally, the dia-logue that led to all that.

Coming back to The Announcement:

With a couple of notable exceptions, this has been a mono-logue so far but increasing view numbers confirm that there is a serious interest as it develops and furthermore that Yanni's decision, to "look back"- contrary to the popular advice to "go forward", the easy choice perhaps when your tail is on fire- is shared by many others.
To conclude this "jumping all over the place" mental dance and reward those that follow in step:

After discovering Cagliostro's "learned and law abiding descendant", Yanni the greek wrote to him to initiate a dialogue leading to the truth and even asked for his version of the story to be included in "Purple History", Yanni's book, to ensure success.

The man entrenched himself entropicaly and never answered, thus......

.....ENTROPY:

Entropy is the particular property of closed thermodynamic systems that nobody wants to talk about nowdays.

Greeks used it first describe human behaviour: It means "to turn oneself inwards" and not respond when spoken to or gazed upon by another person or persons.

People finding themselves in this state of grk entropy usually turned red in the face- blush-from increased blood pressure.

Entropy still means shame in modern greek and there is an interesting correlation between enlightment, entropy and environment but that's another subject, isn't it?

[yanni]

With the "greek dancing lessons" completed (some slight foot dragging, the product of leg pulling, went unoticed and therefore mutual congratulations are in order) let us now return to the subject of "papyrology vs history of hermetism":

The Leiden papyri forged by Balsamos- or "Walsamos" as the name is pronounced in grk-is the second reference linking Cagliostro to "deamons", the first being ofcourse La Comtesse d'Adhemar:

She quotes a letter she received from Saint-Germain in which he says, speaking of his journey to Paris in 1789-to see it after the fall of Bastille: "I wished to see the work that that demon of hell, Cagliostro, has prepared".

This reference can be found in " http://www.alchemylab.com/count_saint_germain.htm (along with a reasonably objective and amusing biography of Saint Germain.)

Therefore the question of the provenance of the vast library of the "D'Anastasi papyri" becomes rather compelling for our friends, the learned aegyptologists-papyrologists, to answer as the subject truly concerns the roots of their "science".

[yanni]

....the subject is "The book of Moses", no more, no less:

The term "apocryphal"
Turning now to the consideration of the word "apocryphal" itself, we find that in its earliest use it was applied in a laudatory sense to writings,
Esoteric writings which were kept secret because they were the vehicles of esoteric knowledge which was too profound or too sacred to be imparted to any save the initiated. Thus it occurs in a magical book of Moses, which has been edited from a Leiden papyrus of the 3rd or 4th century by Dieterich (Abraxas, 109). This book, which may be as old as the 1st century, is entitled: "A holy and secret Book of Moses, called eighth, or holy". The disciples of the Gnostic Prodicus boasted (Clem. Alex. Strom. i. 15. 69) that they possessed the secret books of Zoroaster. 4 Ezra is in its author's view a secret work whose value was greater than that of the canonical scriptures (xiv. 44 sqq.) because of its transcendent revelations of the future. It is in a like laudatory meaning that Gregory reckons the New Testament apocalypse as εν αποκρυφοις (Oratio in suam ordinationem, iii. 549, ed. Migne; cf. Epiphanius, Haer. li. 3). The word enjoyed high consideration among the Gnostics (cf. Acts of Thomas, 10, 27, 44).
Questionable writings
But the word was applied to writings that were kept from public circulation not because of their transcendent, but of, their secondary or questionable value. Thus Origen distinguishes between writings which were read by the churches and apocryphal writings (Origen's Comm. in Matt., x. 18, on Matt. xiii. 57, ed. Lommatzsch iii. 49 sqq.). Cf. Epist. ad Africam, ix. (Lommatzsch xvii. 31): Euseb. H.E. ii. 23, 25; iii. 3, 6. See Zahn, Gesch. Kanons, i. 126 sqq. Thus the meaning of αποκρυφος is here practically equivalent to "excluded from the public use of the church," and prepares the way for the third and unfavourable sense of this word. http://www.enpsychlopedia.com/psypsych/Apocrypha

That d'Anastasy's papyri (from his collection comes also Jo Smith's papyrus) are the only ones "confirming" Abraham's presence in Egypt and that the unfortunate name "Abraxas" was used-alongside "Balsamos"- is confirmed again in

http://www.mathorigins.com/A.htm

Quote:
ANASTASI or ANASTASY or ATHANASI?: (AE) hieratic papyri AtLeydenUniversity, Dynasty XIX.
Giovanni Anastasi was the Swedish and Norwegian Consul General [to CAIRO] from 1828-?
The papyrus of ABRAXAS.

Yes,Yanni thinks, aegyptologists-papyrologists have a lot to answer for!

[yanni]

To enable the viewer to understand the "story" of The Announcement better, a brief summary of its development so far herein is deemed necessary:

A hunt for roots started in 1994. It revealed an 1835 murder in the island of Zante of some of the researchers ancestors. They had a prime role in the greek war for independence(1770-1828). Crosschecked indications showed the murder was instigated by and carried out on behalf of Dionisios Solomos*, greek "national" poet today ("Hymn to Liberty", national anthem), by his relatives.

The above, to the biggest part the result of archivial research, were announced and published in Athens, Greece 1998-2000.
In view of the "distinguished" murder accusation, further relative research was next carried out mostly via the web.

E.A.Poe's "Sonnet to Zante", found and read then, was a further indication of the above murder, so his other work and biography were studied next along with alchemy, aegyptology and hermetism as relative indications were also established in 2001.

Following conclusions were the result of this new "internationalised" web research:

-Poe had indeed come to Greece-"to join the fight of greek independence" as he himself claimed-using the alias George or William Townsend Washington. His greek experience, evident in many of his works, strongly influenced his character and later life.

-Poe's greek host was Giovanni d'Anastasy, known until now as the "armenian consul of Sweden and Norway in Alex, Egypt, a collector of papyri". D'Anastasy's wife and other family members were the Zante murder victims.

-Poe's "Assignment-Visionary" confirmed and crosschecked other research results (documentation to be provided later) that D'Anastasy, also known as Yanni d'Athanasi or Ivan Avanassiev, was count Saint Germain's relative and successor.

- The "alchemist" and secret agent of Luis XV Saint Germain was the same person as the "minister of war" of Luis XVI, with the same name, during the most important period in the USA struggle for independence.

-The link between Saint Germain and D'Anastasy and the ambiguous relation of the former to Cagliostro are reconfirmed by a "D'Anastasi" papyrus known as "Abraxas". It was among many other papyri sold by d'Anastasy to Leiden, early 1828.

-Something is very wrong, however, with this papyrus:
Also known by the name "Holy book of Moses", it is the only existing document confirming the presence of jewish prophet Abraham in Egypt, in a most peculiar manner however. The name of the prophet is spelled "Abraxas" (in greek) and it is followed by a "deamon Balsamos", indicating an "artistic intervention" by the hand of Cagliostro whose real name was Balsamo, an expert forger as per Casanova's testimony.
No spectrography tests on the particular papyrus have ever been published and Leiden University scholars stopped corresponding and never answered relative letter(mid 2005) when the specific issue was raised by the undersigned "Yanni the greek" in the role of amateur papyrologist.

-Something is wrong with the Mormon "holy book" too:
The "Joseph Smith" papyri also came from the same D'Anastasy MS library, however there is apparently no evidence that Abraham or Abraxas is mentioned therein. As J.Smith's "revelation" has been proved wrong already, Mormons and the "Church of the prophet of he latter days"(?) now use the same unfortunate one and only "Abraxas" papyrus as "evidence" of their faith.

-The provenance of the d'Anastasy papyri in general, as well as the provenance and authenticity of papyrus "Abraxas", can only be certified with the active support of papyrology experts, museum curators and Vatican historians (origins and history of the papyri collection of cardinal Stefano Borgia, head of Rome's "propaganda fide" office). From d'Anastasy's compiled biography however it is already certain that they were not all discovered by him in Egypt and it is highly propable that those related to science(in grk) were the product of the Herculaneum digs (1745-50) whereas the specific papyrus was propably confiscated from Cagliostro (by Saint Germain) in 1786.

-The identities of Saint Germain and his successor Giovanni d'Anastasy were established and will be revealed along with the solutions to other romantic riddles of the 19th century (post Nr 1 of The Announcement, as well as riddle "Concino" further down) early April.

*First time revealed herein.

[yanni]

"There is nothing I can do, my hands are tied" Saint Germain is said to have replied to Marie Antoinette when she asked him to prevent the calamities that would destroy "royal France" as per his prediction.

If the quotation is true, if he really made this statement, the mystery of his controversial personality becomes even more perplexing by the previous revelation-in this here Announcement-that he was in fact the same person as Saint Germain, the war minister of France 1774-1776.

If the quotation is true, something serious must have happened to drasticaly change, to neutralize, the man who shaped european affairs as from about 1760 onwards, enthroned Catherine in Russia and was-as aleady shown by this Announcement-so instrumental in shaping up french politics and planning the assistance to the rebels during the american struggle for independance.


After 1778 there was evidently a "general plan" in the works, a plan which ended by the sacrifice of the french Bourbon kings, a plan designed also to kill, selectively, the threatening chimera of democratic ideas and social principles St Germain and his friends introduced.

Was this plan known to St Germain or was he already neutralised and just too old to react when he saw it materialising? That's the million $ question!

More than just a well documented scenario will answer it:

There simply was far too much "liberty" in Bourbon France, all their enemies, the Pope in Rome and the "illegitimate" british rulers in particular, they all agreed on that issue by then, far too many- and far too "open"-discussions between scientists , artists and men of letters in french "academic societies" and "salons":

There simply was far too much "greekness" in France, they all agreed. It was, it must have been, greek philosophy, plays, art, democracy, greek logos (as ratio in latin) that brought about this "moral decadence" of the french court and nobility and was also threatening their own principles, their world "order", their interests, their governing "systems".

"Greekness" was to be banned from then on , the general plan certainly provided for that as well and, if the french "enlightening" chain of command was to be broken, its weakest link, Saint Germain, was well known and easy to be attacked first and foremost as....

...they all knew his little secret!

Let's assume(for the time being only) that the answer to "Concino's riddle" proves unfavourable to the pedigree of french royals from Luis XIII onwards, that their blood in particular was not so "blue", let's assume that Concino "did his thing" and Maria di Medici had his child, that Luis XIII truly had a greek "Concino Concini" father, what then?

Let's assume that Saint Germain not only knew of this "forbidden" truth but was moreover a part and a proof of it himself and, whereas his own personal interests and loyalties had always been in favour and in parallel to those of the Bourbons, this "own truth", this impossible and unalterable truth he himself was evidence of, was so damaging to his King and to himself, what then?

If royalty today- and some "repuplican monarchs" as well-are still ever so meticulously guarding their own pedigrees and hereditary lines of descent , one can but imagine what an uproar such a revelation would then create: The Bourbons would loose their thrones not just in France but in Spain and Naples as well. The french people, nobility and masses alike, would become the laughing stock worldwide .

On the other hand this truth, if allowed to become public, would have a detrimental influence on all european monarchs already feeling deeply threatened by those same ideals of french "encyclopedism" and "enlightment". Their "order" would be seriously damaged as well.

This was the situation he was facing by 1778, there really was nothing much he could do to hide his secret anymore, his hands were tied and he was in a deep personal dilemma, the prerequisite of all his beloved greek tragedies.

Propably by his own free will he had given up his "minister of war" commission in 1776: He must have been very tired then and possibly also aware that his secret was known to few of his many "friends". The threat of its revelation did not materialise however until around 1780 when he chose to leave France to set up his staged death in Germany in 1784 for this reason alone.

He was certainly forced to let go from controling "things" before 1780 therefore but it is highly doubtfull he was conscious then- let alone taking part-in a plan leading to the french revolution and to the tragic end of his royal french "germain" cousin, he was possibly just too old and tired then, in 1788-90, to do anything to prevent the coming disaster and he certainly wanted no part of it whatsoever.

Did then the man, who created the academic society of "les enfants d'Apollo", "les Philalethes" and "Les neuf soeurs", who controled all virtual art and most lterature of 19th century France, did he give it all up, his greek logos and ideals, to participate perhaps in a plot to bend peoples minds back to the middle ages by injecting the "supernatural" and introduce tribal semitic "truths" in the "Abraxas" papyrus, the "Holy book of Moses" forgery?

Did he thus verify the mythos-consequently promoting dogmatism- of the Bible to promote the Pope's interests thus attacking greek orthodoxy? (G.O. adheres and insists on the greek-written and greek-inspired New Testament and generaly avoids and disregards older biblical texts)

No, he did not:

His pathos with "aegyptian" manusripts was certainly related to his affection for "gnosis". For him, whatever mystery or "magic" the pyramids contained was minor, he knew, when compared to that of the greek language he was so much in love with.

He had indeed supplied cardinal Stefano Borgia with a small part of his manuscript collection, years before 1778, in the hope to assist the catholic Stuarts retake the british throne and indeed this effort had backfired by then: Giuseppe Balsamo had "gone over" to the other side and the Stuarts were...well....just not up to it.

But....he still had in his hands most of his aces again, among which the proof of this monumental forgery, the same actual papyrus he had taken from Cagliostro in 1785-6, he had thus, some at least of his many different enemies on the defence again, had already established his next identity and safe heaven, had chosen and tutored his successor, his grandson Yanni, and so decided to withdraw from France, just after Bastille, just before all hell broke loose.

He was at ease with his conscience: The seeds he had planted, he knew, would sooner or later find the right time and conditions to grow, plan or no plan.

On April 1790, at the age of 77 or 75 (as per his halfbiographer monsieur E.G******) he fooled his persecutors once again and staged another death, in his appartments in Le Louvre, passing away apparently peacefully and with all his faculties in perfect condition as his will records.

He was buried, it is so written, with two of his most trusted relatives as his witnesses, in the church of Saint-Germain-l'Auxerrois nearby.

(see http://www.oldandsold.com/articles08/paris-travel-10.shtml and
http://architecture.relig.free.fr/auxerrois.htm)

He had selected, long ago, and always used when in the Levant the perfect name for this last resurrection: Lazarus

And left France forever to spend his last years peacefully in his beloved island, Hydra. Eversince 1745 he was known-and in record today-by this name, Lazarus C******, there!

Hydra, he thought, was the ideal place to hide the wounds from the greatest enemy of all: old age. He died there about 1802-3 and is propably still buried somewhere below the grounds of the family church completed, on his orders, in 1780:

"Ypapanti", Hydra's first greek-orthodox (byzantine) styled church* . The church's belfry was erected to his memory by his only legitimate** son, Anastasy C******, and was completed in 1805, all in brilliant white marble from the island of Paros.

*also called "purple church" because of its unusual colour.
** Another known son, Dimitri "Lazarou", a historicaly(Hydra-Petsai) well known personality born around 1750-60 and famous Bouboulina's real father, was also his son from outofmarriage relationship of Lazarus C******.

[yanni]

Feeling like taken on a wild geese chase?

We'll catch them all soon , viewer, have patience

[yanni]

It's a long story, viewer, and I do sympathise with your eventual difficulty and reluctance to follow it up, to have practicaly to swim all the way from Poe's Philadelphia to St Germain's Paris via Florence of 1575, via Venice of 1600 and, of all things, via the "never heard of" tiny Hydra, St Germain's own "greek island" .

Bear in mind if you please that this Announcement has always been about the decoding of Poe's specific two (or more, as it turned out) greek pieces so, if you still claim Edgar as your favorite american poet- and consequently want to learn how these works came to existence, of the people that inspired him, to learn more about his life and mind-then this road, the "never travelled before" but by a "Yanni the greek", will lead you to all that and more: The "famous riddles" solutions will be waiting for you at the end of your "crossing" to sweeten your ordeal.

A "unique", "one and only", a "never before" deal, a "true bargain" but.......
...YOU must be up to it, it's all "up to you", it always has been and always will be so, there are no easy truths!

(an essay on PURPLE to follow soon).

[yanni]

Colours as banners are significant, they are pointers to follow when researching family history.

Purple is certainly an unusual colour for a church of an aegean island, it's highly conspicuous, it pops out of the blue-white-grey background and strikes the eye.

The name of the family who build the purple church in Hydra, Kokkini, when translated means the "reds", so their church might as well have been a "red church", their history "red history". Purple was selected for the book title instead, years ago, because....well, purple sounded better then, rang nobler to the ear than repulsive red.

It was, as it finally turned out, the correct choice for family colours as well.

The Concise Oxford Dictionary defines purple either as:
-a basicaly red colour-with some blue added-used by emperors, kings, consuls and cardinals, the sign of royalty....or as
-a veterinary disease also known as "swine fever; disease in wheat" (so goes the text in the good dictionary leaving one wondering if the swine get it from wheat or v.v.)

In french "purple" is spelled "pourpre" (also fit for royalty etc). There also is a relative french disease, "purpure", but there is no word about swine and how they get it.

These words all have their root in greek "porfyros" or porphyros, coming from a sea shell, porfyra, out of which the colour was extracted, in days as old as Homer's Ulysses and Plato's Phaedon, to be used as an exclusively royal textile dye. The garment was hence named "porfyra" .

The greek language also includes a "porfyria", a human disease possibly intented as a punishement for those wearing porfyra unrightfully.

Porfyria, sometimes fatal, attacks the skin of the lower ends firstly, red bloody patches are formed, the head next , gums bleeding etc.

Is it perhaps the same as purple, the swine killer?

The issue being delicate as it will next be shown, historians and linguists apparently refuse to address it. Unlike purple, no porfyria or porphyria disease is mentioned in the C.O. Dictionary leading thus to the wrong impression that no such disease ever existed in England:

It did and, as diseases do not discriminate generaly, George III, King of Britain during St Germain's time, had it (The Economist, some ten years back).
It is said furhtermore that he, blood-dripping mouth, protruding teeth and all, inspired John Polidori, the greek writer from Zante, in his provocative "Vampyre" (London 1821).

Was it greek porfyria that penalised the King for unrightfully sitting on his throne or did the specific(!) veterinary virus dare crossover just to break the royal etiquete and attack poor King George?

Who is to tell and let's avoid this delicate issue to return again to purple, the colour mixture of red and blue, a possible indication, when talking of blood mixes, of the eventual molestation of any purely blue-azure french royal blood by a red-porfyros greek perpetrator!

Might this indication, this pointer, be valid in our family research?
No, porfyros the colour was used by royalty far earlier, we said, our Lazarus-Saint Germain did neither invent it nor select it to reveal the results of Concino's blood mixing endeavours, he is just telling us, by the colour choice for his church, he was himself related to royalty.

To sum up: Porfyra is the sea shell, porfyros the royal colour, porfyria the human disease and there is in Hydra a "porfyros" church build by a Lazarus Cokkini, Hydra's legendary archon. We'll come to him later on however, our chromautopsy is by no means finished yet because.....
.
.....there is a "porfyras" as well:

"Porfyras" is the title of "greek national" poet Dionisios Solomos last work. He was the man, remember, who instigated and organised the murder of Yanni d'Anastasy's wife and family in 1835 in Zante. As the grandson of Lazarus Cokkini, Yanni was "porfyros" too.

"Porfyras" was written in 1847 and is the only work done by Solomos after 1835. This rare and precious piece is lost however, as greek literature scholars insist, only few extracts exist, they say, and an indicative summary of the poem's story as well.

The poem mourns in fact the death of an english soldier in Zante by a man-eating shark, "Porfyras", a very unusual name for a shark as a species by this name is not to be found in greek dictionaries or encyclopedias .

It is, one assumes, a name chosen through "poetic license" by Solomos to name the ungratefull fish that rebeled and devoured a brave redcoat sometime after 1835 and the Zante murder.

After 1835, when the brits really showed their autocratic mug to the greeks, disbanning the Ionian parliament and governing Zante, Corfu and Cephalonia by decrees, bayonets and torture assisted by local collaborators headed by our "national" Salomon, murderer of Yanni's family, the "reds" by name and porfyros or purple by colours*:

The Cokkini, co-kin of "french St Germain" and "fiorentine Concino Concini", blood related to the Bourbons.


*The 1821 greek revolutionary banner, the banner of Lazare "Musiu" (=monsieur), brother of Giovanni d'Anastasy and grandson of Lazarus C-St Germain, was indeed purple. It's exhbited today in the Maritime Museum of Piraeus.


(Stories from the island of Hydra to follow next)

[yanni]

It was previously stated that: "After staging his April 1790 Paris death, Saint Germain, the chief diplomatic advisor of Luis XV and XVI, became "Lazarus" Cokkini, Hydra's legendary archon and "ctetor" of purple church of Ypapanti, and died there sometime before 1803."

This conclusion was not just based on St Germain's actual "french" surname, a proof by itself that he was a Kokkini (Cokkini-Cocchini-Cochini etc), but on a multitude of other indications as well all tallying fully to family history already published(*1 end of text) and/or further researched by the undersigned

The published history of Lazarus C and his family, protagonists in the liberation of Greece(1770-1827) was based on research done before the "non greek" part was either known or researched by the undersigned, hence this present attempt- putting new research info alongside old-to demonstrate the validity of the conclusion above.

Let us first examine the 1448-1750 period (based on info from various history writers and other non archivial sources-the web):.

The Cocchini first appear on record 1448 in Corfu and are next to be found on board genovese admiral Andrea Doria's boat escaping the fall of Constantinople in 1453 (see footnote *3 below).

They are seen next as stradioti of the Palaiologi in Morea, early 1500, serve next under Giorgio Castrioti or "Skender-bey", founder of today's Albania, until his death.

Sometime later (1540-1570) they establish themselves in Zante.

In 1571 Giorgio Cochini becomes the top man of the family as captain of "Sebenico galera sottil napoletana San Migele". Under the command of admiral Alvaro de Bazán he saved the collapsing line of Gian-Andrea Doria at the decisive naval battle of Lepanto.
Bazan ....commanded the reserve division, and his prompt energy averted a disaster when Uluch Ali, who commanded the left wing of the Turks, outmancnuvred the commander of the Christian right, Giovanni Andrea Doria, and broke the allied line. (Bazan)...accompanied Don Huan of Austria at the taking of Tunis in the following year".
Giorgio was enobled after Lepanto and received the rare title "Magnifico" , around 1600 or so, in Genoa. This distinction belonged to the Dorias before but as Gian-Andrea was discraced for cowardice at Lepanto, it was passed on to the Cocchini.

It was therefore Giorgio "magnifico" who first "took" Hydra, appearing there not as the island's 1574 "first settler", as the local legend wants, but as the "avant guard" of the joint christian fleet who used the tiny island as an advance post after Lepanto. From 1574 until 1600 Giorgio travlled to Alex Egypt and possibly reached as far as "Cochin" Goa, India, a portuguese colony then, as well.

The Cocchini next "invade" Florence(1575) where they establish themselves (and still exist today with similar names) and Venice, where Giorgio constructed his Palazzo*Note 2 (1597-1600). After San Giorgio di Greci, it is the second building of greek ownership constructed in Venice, adjacent to the greek church, in itself evidence of the family's origins.
Sometime later they also establish themselves in Livorno and Palermo (no research available)

The history of the fiorentine-french names (Cocchini camarlinghi and Medici publishers 1575-1690., Concini 1600-1617, Cacchini composers and Caccini-Cassini, priests-astronomers, all beyond doubt rooted on "Cocchini" and mispelled either by error or purposely-after Concino's "royal intrusion" of 1602- as well as the "purely french" Co**** and Ca**** geographers-cartographers, printers, artists etc) is on the web and cannot be repeated here for reasons of space.

By 1750 or so there were Cocchini branches in Paris, Lisbon, Livorno, Palermo, Trieste, Corfu, Zante, Hydra as well as Chio and Smyrne on the coast of Asia Minor.

As "grande armateurs" they were the Bourbon's link to the outside world.


*1 Research in Hydra's archive for the name "Cokkini" and other related names. Conclusions announced at the Third Panhellenic Congress of the Hellenic Heraldic Society, October 1998, relative article published March 1999 in Athens (History Illustrated, Papyros Larousse publishers, Nr 369) "The Cokkini family of Hydra". A summary of the study itself published by the H.H.S (Athens 2001, Praktika of the Third Congress, Deltion 11, pages 627-675).

*2 "Palazzo Cocchini" housing today the offices of Greek Orthodox Church in Italy.

*3 Various relative web publications appeared in the meantime, thus a "ser Battista di Lorenzo Concini" is the first "italian Cocchini" on record in Urbisaglia, Terranuova in 1456 and, of course, top man of the family since 1545 or so was Bartolomeo Concini, Cosimo I's prime minister (who also served for a period in Brusseles hence the "Netherland link of the family eversince)

(In following Part II-covering 1745-1803 the "local view" of the family will be examined focusing in particular on existing "Hydra" evidence on the presence there of Lazarus Cochini=Saint Germain.)

[yanni]

Part II (1745-1803)

Forword

Published works by the undersigned (as per *1 of previous Part I) have already established the Cocchini family as instrumental for the 1821 revolution which lead to the creation of created Modern Greece and is celebrated March the 25th each year.
Another part of Saint Germain's legend, that he was alive and active 1821 in Greece, was thus confirmed.

As the examination of his greek presence will next show, he was also instrumental in previous two revolts , the "Orlofika" with nominal leader Grigori Orlov, 1770-1774 and "Labro Cacchoni's", March 1788- June 1792 and the conclusion is thus reached that among the various other causes invented by historians to explain Modern Greece's revival, one more should be added::

That of the vision of a great man.

(The following sources have been basicaly used for the present:
S1 :"Admiral Miaoulis", by Sp.Melas, Saliveros publications, Athens 1932.
S2: Greek Piracy and Corsairs, by Alexandra Crantonelli, Estia publ. Athens 1998
S3: "Archives of the council of the island of Hydra" by Ant.Lignos, published Athens 1920-1953.)

Lepanto proved not decisive enough to reestablish christian rule in the Aegean Archipelago. In 1669 Candia,Crete is lost to the Ottomans and La Serenissima is limited to their other aquisitions, Cirigo, south west of Peloponisos and the isles of the Ionian sea (Zante, Corfu, Cephalonia, Leukada), which remained theirs until the very end (1797).

After 1669 the Cocchini had better things to do than stay on the republics ex maritime borderline post : Hydra and neighboring Petsai, part of the Ottoman empire until 1821, with neither history nor sewage until 1745, were scarcely inhabited by few "arvanites", dalmatian christians, first brought to the island as crew of Giorgio "Magnifico" and his gallera.

1663 to 1690, venetian chevalier Constantino Cocchini supervises the construction of San Giacommo theater in Corfu, fifty years ahead of Milano's La Scala. In Florence other members of the family take part in theatrical performances as well. (the web).

Hydra's naval history and relative economic growth actually begins 1745, when Lazarus Cocchini, the patriarch of the "on record" hydrian family, "initiated trading wheat with Egypt" with a 116 ton boat as written(S1, 36). He next, 1757, constructed and put to sea another boat of 250 tons for this same purpose(S1,37) thus gaining "immense wealth". His many local sons in law, well known "names" of 1821's history, follow his expample and by 1780 or so, the hydrian commercial fleet controlls all grain trade of eastern meditaranean, loading grain in the Black Sea and Alexandria Egypt to sell it to ports as far as Lisbon, Marseille etc.

There is no local reference on Lazarus C participating in the first rebellion of greeks joining forces with Gregory Orlov's first sea war against the Ottomans (1770-1774) but one cannot fail to remember Saint Germain's participation both to the enthronement of- Orlov's beloved-Great Catherine this same year and that he, as russian officer Baron Salticoff, supplied russians the brulot know-how and sailed with them as far as Tunis.

(to be continued)

[yanni]

Part III

It has been stated in previous posts that, after the collier affair, Cagliostro's escape to London and the theft at St Germain's lodgings at Le Louvre in 1786, St Germain is next said to have visited Paris in 1789 "to see the work of that deamon of hell" and then faked another death there, April 1790, to return to the Levant as Lazarus Cochini.
The timeline below (all as per S2 unless otherwise stated) refers to his last years, 1789-1802, which begin with his participation in yet another rebellion against the Ottomans, the one (1789-1792) by "Labros Cacchonis" (*see Note 1 below).

April 1788 Labro arrives in Zante on his "Athena of the North" and forms next a base in Cirigo wherefrom he loots and takes as prizes various ships, among which first a hydrian "tartana" carrying oil to Genoa belonging to Lazarus Cocchini, "varatario"-title propably indicates he was licensed to store gunpowder for the french- and agent of France. Another ship belonging to an Eleftherios Cochini, also agent of France, was looted as well. After more attacks, Labro returns later in the year to Trieste, on orders from Venetian admiral Emo, and is imprisoned there until March 89.
May 1789 Labro returns to the Aegean and is joined by greek corsairs, thirty ships in total, as well as a maltese Guillermo Lorenzi, who, flying the russian flag, threatens and bombards Hydra this same month.
June 1789-June 1790 Various attacks and counterattacks force Labro to retreat to Ithaca, Ionian sea. with only five ships following.
August 13th to October 11, 1790: Two corsair ships flying the russian flag, captained by Gianni Anargiro from Petsai and his partner, a Niccolo Cocchini, capture three turkish ships off Creta and Cassos and bring them as prizes to Zante. .
August 1791. Armistice is declared between Rusia and Turkey.
January 1792 Treaty of Iasio confirms it. Labro left on his own.
Early 1792 "As they say in Hydra"(Sp.Melas) Lazarus Cochini, in his "first ever" trip to Trieste, saved two jewish money forgers by offering them safe passage to Saloniki in exchange for part of their loot, thus becoming -again(!)-very rich. (S1, 74).
April 1792 Labro sails off Cirigo for Porto Cajo, Mani, before leaving the Aegean.for ever.
31.5.1792 Lazarus Cochini grants a loan to Hydra's town council. (S3)
August 1792 The ottoman admiral arrives in Hydra and demands from the town council to surrender Lazarus to be hanged for having guided hydrian captains to join forces with Labro before. The elders, the people and all sailors united protest against the admiral's demand, so the admiral drops his persecution and in return Lazarus presents him, as token of his good will, with a big ship. (S1, 81-83). He has the title of a russian naval officer and has been appointed Russia's subconsul of Hydra in the meantime. (S1,66)
14.5 1793.A letter by the top "draguman"-translator-of the Sultan advises hydrian elders that their ships have the right again to cross the Bosporus channel and enter the Black Sea. Lazarus Cochini is the top elder on the list, the letter is addressed to him first. (S3)
1.8.1794. On record the nephew of Lazarus, a Dimitri "Fragos" (=franc).(S3)
1.3.1797 On record "the most noble archon Lazarus Dimitri Cocchini loans the town council 7525 "grosia" at 15% p.a interest." (S3)
7.12.1797. A property sold in Hydra next to the properties of Gika "Lazarou" and Lazarus Cochini.(S3)
1.3.1800 Lazarus Cochini sends less than ordered hydrian sailors to serve the ottoman navy in Constanntinople. Captain of the transport ship, his son in law Dimitri. (S3)
3.7.1803. The "late" Lazarus Cochini on record for last time. (S3).

To interpret the above one has to be aware that Melas had a "secret" (heh-heh) agenda to promote. It was he who "streamlined" Hydra's archive: The 16 volumes published (S3) include only half of available manuscripts, the unpublished other half, covering propably the 1750-1780 period, is still hidden somewhere and was not searched for by the undersigned.

*Note 1 Labro's both names -Labros=brilliant grk, Cacchoni easily converted back to Cocchini - as well as parts of his biography leave little doubt that he was himself a Cochini and that is why he was able to return to Odessa, Crimea and was granted a great reward by Catherine.

(Last part IV to follow)

[yanni]

Part IV.

Readers, obviously conversant with 18th century history and sufficiently interested in specific issues raised to have followed this thread thus far, can easily deduct from the previous timeline that "Lazarus" Cochini was either a magician (to have escaped punishement for leading a rebellion against the Sultan and furthermore secure for himself and his hydrian sailor friends the exclusive right again to trade in the Aegean and the Black Sea flying the russian flag) or a super diplomat with excellent contacts to the Russian court at least.

Attacking himself first to disassociate his "Lazarus" persona from the rebellion he organised, he, the tentative Saint Germain, further allows readers to conclude that the ex war minister forsaw the collapse of his royal France and organised the "Cacchoni rebellion" to soften the ground for the future he envisaged. The diplomatic sommersault performed 1789-1792 was to him propably normal everyday business as there were certainly many persuasive reasons and official ways to pass his message and achieve peace between Russia and the Sultan:

The Jasi pact was signed when France was already attacking Austria, Catherine was outlawing russian masons and preparing to attack the french "austrian" army, Robespierre and his jacobin mob were beheading the royal family (his cousins-germains) in Paris and Gustav III was assasinated, as predicted, in Sweden.

The pact securing peace for Eastern Mediteranean was broken only after Saint Germain's death in 1802, thus his wish for a peacefull retirement was fulfilled.

Readers attention is next drawn to the most important bit of info (of previous timeline) that escaped being processed by "history scholars-editors":

Niccolo Cochini, the August 1790 Creta-Cassos corsair is, for this compulsive root hunter at least, extremely tempting: A Niccolo ancestor was sought for in Hydra's archive a long time ago but none such was traced in the pre1800 records.

His existence was known from three registered (S3) sons of his: Alexandry Niccolo Cochini (4 X,1821-1832), Dimitri N.C.(once, 1824),
Peter N.C. (once, 1828)
(The limited number of registrations and the time appearing-six in total, 1821-1832- is a clear indication that Hydra was not their normal domicile, they were living elsewhere, possibly Alexandria (as "Alexandry" indicates) and had moved temporarily to Hydra because of the 1821 events. The Alexandria residence is furthermore confirmed by the geographic location of the corsair act of Niccolo: Cassos and Crete are quite distant from Hydra or mainland Greece, fairly big ships are needed to sail their waters and only ships travelling to and from Alexandria would follow this sea root.)

Why was Niccolo sought for, why is he so important?

As father of Peter, he is the grandfather of Michael Peter Cochini, the Missolonghi engineer (direct ancestor of the undersigned) whose french links were obvious but impossible to trace before: The engineer (~1780-1826) who designed and constructed the famous fort, spoke french as native language, had studied in France but also had a hydrian uncle whose name, captain Antonios Dim. Cocchini, was given to one of the fort's towers. Other tower names given by the engineer (including Ben. Franklin's and William of Orange's, then first King of Holland) tell of his links to masonry in general and to the egyptian rite in particular. A tower was named after "Ananiah" the wise (Il Saggio, the unknown founder of the rite of Mizraim).

Dates are telling too: Saint Germain-Cocchini stages his April 1790 Paris death to return to the Levant, guide the rebellion and resurrect himself, as late as 1792, as the Lazarus he once was, and there is Niccolo Cocchini, the corsair of August 1790, travelling from Crete and Cassos to reach Zante, of all ports, and then disappear!

(Niccolo and his partner in arms Anargiros, a well known name from Petsai, proceed to dispose their prizes to Zante. One has to be also fluent with Zante history to know that at the time the Cocchini family was very powerfull, that a chevalier Andrea Cocchini was among the triad governing Zante in 1800, after La Serenissima had ceased to exist and the russoturkish fleet first anchored in Zante. One has also to remember that Zante is where the Mizraim rite is said to have originated to pass then west to Venice sometime around 1782.)

And, as it is soon going to be revealed, St Germain had not just a Cochini surname but was a "Niccolo" himself!

Thus, not just Edgar's friend and host, Giovanni d'Anastasy, was directly related to Saint Germain, but Poe's first ever decoder, "Yanni the greek", is too:

Niccolo the corsair was Saint Germain himself, travelling from Alexandria to Hydra on his own ship (captained by a frenchman, a Bonfort from Cassis propably), his friend Anargiros following on another boat as guard, and using his-unknown in the Levant- real name until he gained control of the situation again. Then only does he return to the already well known "Lazarus", Hydra's archon, personality.

Next post, April 2nd, will reveal his full identity for the few who have not been able to make him out already!

[yanni]

The following conclusions are the result of a detailed name study. Some plagiarism is unavoidable:

The name has always been Cocchini or Cochini (Kokkini grk) but, following the dramatic turn of events (Concino's productive relationship to Maria di Medici's queen of France uncovered about 1606, King Henry's assasination in 1610, Concino's in 1617) it was modified in Florence, Italy for diplomatic reasons and in France for the safety of those carrying it.

The fiorentine Cocchini, closely associated to the Medicis, kept their name until 1609- a last Cocchini even manages to graduate in Pisa, (Diploma di Dottore in diritto, conceduto dall'Università di Pisa a Francesco Cocchini da Pescia l'anno 1617)- but they all next become Concini, Conchini, Coccini (Giovanni, the Firenze sculptor of works at the Holy Trinity church also registered as Caccini), Cochi and Caccini (Giulio, Francesca etc, opera founders and botanists, Matteo and Giovanni, roman catholic priests and Galileo's persecutors and subsequent followers), to return to their correct name again only around 1650 (Cocchini, Medici's science publishers first ever patenting the sign of the star etc etc). Much later the name also becomes Gozzini on political grounds.

In Italy today there are perhaps a dozen Cocchini families, a couple Gozzinis, no Caccinis, Coccinis or Concinis.

The french are recorded (about 1640) as Cochin, Cocain, Cachin, later propably Cazin (publishers) and LeRouge (=the reds, geographers, chartographers) too and, soon after, when the first Caccini astronomer, Gian Domenico, settles in France to form the Cassini dynasty, the name given to them by common agrrement betwen italian and french historians early in the 19th century. (They spelled their name as "Caccini" however til 1779 at least!)

There are today in France only few Cochin and fewer Cachin families. Some Cochini are also registered, they are however from 20th century (1922, Asia Minor) immigration. No Cassini or Caccini name was found.

Italian scholars certainly still have their reasons to keep truth under lock and key and to maintain the various name versions, thus making the famous opera founders and astronomers italians and as for the french ....well....an "italian Concino" was bad enough, let alone a greek Saint Germain!

After this introductory note and before proceeding as scheduled to answer the main question on Saint Germain aka Lazarus aka Niccolo the corsair etc, a relative letter to Mme Ellen Cohen, "editor" of Franklin's correspondence at Yale will next be quoted, a kind of open invitation and reminder to the kind lady that silence is not always a prerequisite for serenity.

[yanni]

Continuing from previous post.....

Evidence that the french Cassini astronomers spelled their name as "Caccini" in 1790 and that they were related to the Cochini-Cochin are two letters of same date, today in Benjamin Franklins's papers collection at Yale.

Mme Ellen Cohn (or Cohen), editor in charge, having already lectured on Franklin's unique diplomatic shrewedness to have tricked , more or less, the french (thus extracting the maximum amount of their aid) using his printing talent to do it, has certainly studied in detail Franklin's printing advisor, Cochin, author of the first of the two letters. Not knowing apparently who the Caccini(?) author of the second letter was, Mme Cohn or Cohen then placed the question mark after the name.

Cohn, "the history editor", has obviously her reasons for failing to mention that the same printing expert, Cochin, is also the artist who drew and engraved Ben's famous "fur cap" portrait, so critical in promoting the american "cause" in Europe.

Cohn the detective failed to respond to repeated requests on the subject :

Letter of October 3rd, 05(Addressed to the Curator of Ben Frankli's papers)

Subject: Cochin(i) letters to Benjamin Franklin.

Dear Sir (it was wrongly assumed the curator was a "he")

Researching and partly publishing family history for some years, I recently discovered following two letters in B.F's relative archive with you:

a)From Cochin, ------. Paris., to Benjamin Franklin 1779 February 17 A.L.S. 1p. XIII, 114.
and
b) From Caccini ?, ------. Dunkirk., to Benjamin Franklin 1779 February 17 A.L.S. 3p. XIII, 115.

Whereas the first letter is undoubtedly written by Charles-Nicholas Cochin "fils", the fiorentine-french artist responsible for "Illuminism" and the "fur cup" portrait of Benjamin, the full identity of the author of second letter cannot be deducted from the brief description of letter's contents published in your website or from other sources. Dunkirk is a very unlikely location for the Coccini sender at the time.
Would you be so kind as to send me relative info and perhaps photos of both letters?
In return I will include you in my list of "future first readers" and will thus mail you copy of first printout from my next article titled "Papyrologies" in english when finished.
For your information a list of works is included.
Yours truly



Letter of December 3rd, 05
(Addressed to Ellen Cohn this time)
Subject: Ben Franklin and his Cochin & Caccini pen-pals.

Dear Madam,
"The curator of the papers of B.F." did not write back so the attached letter of October the 3rd is now correctly readdressed to the 'Historian as Detective' editing Franklin's mysteries, thus renewing the original suggestion for cooperation by the undersigned.
Re the first correspondent, Cochin, Franklin's artist friend and consultant: Modern researchers and men /women of letters seemingly neglect his various talents and qualifications and either diminish or avoid him alltogether !
Re the identity of the second of Franklin's correspondents Caccini(?): He is either Cassini Cesar Francois de Thury or Cachin Joseph Marie Francois or Georges- Luis "Le Rouge" , all apparently related to the first.
By this opportunity you are kindly advised that following riddles have in the meantime been solved, partly with info provided by relevant european authorities:
- The identity of two other intimate friends of Franklin: "Le comte de San Germain" and "Marquise de Savalette de Lange" and
- The identity of the designer of the Great Seal of the USA, a rather compelling issue of hermetic nature.
Relevant conclusions will become public knowledge sooner or later.
Again placing myself at your disposal, I remain

Yours truly


"Seethroughs" become you , detective Ellen!

[yanni]

....Charles Nicholas Cochin (fils), the artist friend of Ben Franklin.

Not in the mood at present to further comment on issues raised, herebelow is the explanation why April 2nd was chosen for this revelation instead of...

...April-fool-day!

Along with the french royal family, "greekness" was decapitated as well in 1792.
Changes in philosophy followed, older axiomatic values, such as truth, justice and ethos, being replaced by "industry" notions such as capital, interest, free trade, market forces etc.
Religion was given a simultaneous boost , the full range of its "products" impacted into the minds of the "Hoi polloi". Paradise was put back in heaven and everything settled nicely into a new order of things .

"New age" thinkers and men of letters are generally divided eversince in two basic schools of thought:

-The "May the 1st school of thinkers", aka "mayfirsters" and
-The "April fool day philosophical society" aka "aprilfoolers".

Mayfirsters commemorate prophet Weishaupt's "Illuminati", founded on the particular day of 1776, May the 1st, also known as "labour day", for the benefits this new order brought to them and their subjects/citizens alike, all happily working and enjoying themselves in harmony eversince.

Aprilfoolers, instinctive followers of long forgotten masters, lie to each other in principle on April 1st each year only, the fools!

[yanni]

Charles Nicholas Cochin's "halfbiography", written by monsieur Edmond Goncour, a "mayfirster"-founder of the "societe de gens de lettres" in France, can be found on the web under title "COCHIN". In french, it is THE perfect example of the art of "halftruth" writing.

Goncour's "fiction only" society has yet to respond to the following letter of October 24th, 2005:

La societe de gens de lettres
Paris-FRANCE


Subject: E.Goncour's "COCHIN".

Dear members of the board of the prestigious literary award.

Quite different than the "man" presented by your founder, Charles-Nicholas left much deeper an "estampe" on world matters, including culture, than all other contemporary gens de lettres combined.
Did Edmond know who he really was?
Of course!
He knew of San Severo's capella, of Benjamin's fur-cap portrait, of his political role, of his "Saint Germain", "Savalette" (See note) and "Saltycov" personnae, he researched him in detail, but...
Why then did he diminish him?
One cannot really answer the question without combining the archives of "L'abbaye royal de Sain Pierre de Jumieges" to the Cocchini family history, a small part of which I present to you in my native language.
Notice please that neither the french nor the fiorentine branches are included: A well kept secret, you see, the undersigned did not even know of their existence, so Charles-Nicholas-who created the abbe Cochin of 687- and Concino are not mentioned.
Would it be ethnically improper*1 to suggest a toast to their memory (bourbon naturally) in your next gathering?



Yours truly


*1.Les Cochin, selon un mot de Georges Goyau, peuvent "errer à travers Paris comme à travers un musée familial"...(transl: The Cochin, as per George Goyau, "are wrong to consider Paris a family Museum".) G.Goyau became a member of the french Academy replacing a Cochin early in the 20th century)

Note for the reader of this forum : Savalette de Lange, WAS NOT another identity of Saint Germain as wrongly stated above. A notorious personality, a mason of particular sexual tastes and habits, he normally dressed as a woman and, shortly before the french revolution, "sold" positions and appointments in the french foreign service.

Next post will tackle the subject of the archive of L'abbaye royal de Sain Pierre de Jumieges!

[yanni]

Constructed sometime when Asterix and Obelisk were still fighting the Vikings from the north and the Romans from the south east, Rouen's Sain Pierre is one of the oldest christian churches in France. Once a monastery, a kind of fortress propably as well, it once housed over a thousand monks. According to an existing archive, at least three french saints, Aycadre, Hughes and Filibert were sancticised there, sometime in the 7-8th century.
Inbetween these saints , an ordinary simple "abbe Cochin" pops up, in 687, to mock a greek Kokkini researcher who has already exposed himself by publicaly announcing the greek origins of his great family after several years of research.

http://www.wissensdrang.com/dcon7fr.htm
....Saint Aycadre, 2e abbe (682). — Cochin, 3e abbé (687). — Saint Hugues, 4e abbé (724). — Hildegard, 5e abbé (730). — Droctegand, 6e abbé (vers 750)....
....Le successeur de S. Aycadre à Jumièges fut Cochin, religieux de cette abbaye sous ses deux premiers abbés. Son élection par les suffrages de la communauté réunie montre quel fut son mérite avant qu'il fut abbé, mais elle ne nous met pas au fait de ses actions en particulier. On ne sait rien non plus de son pays, de sa naissance, ni de son éducation avant qu'il fut religieux.

Errare humanum est, no doubt about it and, in this day and age, "french" certainly sounds better than "greek" but, as conscienscious aprilfoolers, we normally dislike being fooled on any other day even if the perpetrator is none other than our famous ancestor, Saint Germain himself, as it turns out:

As the same site confirms, the existing archive is only a copy of an original manuscript which somehow vanished in 1790, the exact year Saint Germain also decided to permanently leave France and return to his "Greece to be" as Niccolo, the corsair, or Lazarus Cocchini, the resurrected archon.

Doubts are also expressed about the authenticity of the MS and is furthermore specified that the archive ends back in 691, meaning that older dates, saints and abbes, are part of french religious mythology only:

http://www.wissensdrang.com/dcon7fr0.htm#4

Ce manuscrit de l'histoire de l'abbaye de Jumièges est la seconde copie faite sur l'original et devenu lui-même original, s'il est vrai, comme Dom Outin, ancient religieux et bibliothécaire de cette abbaye, me l'a assuré depuis la révolution, que cet original du même format et papier que celui cy ait disparu en1790 de la fameuse Bibliothèque de ce monastère

Cette histoire finit à l'an 1760 et contient d'abord 680 pages, elle va jusqu'à 691 :
1° Les feuilles suivantes, depuis la page 680 aiant été transposées par le relieur et placées à la fin de ce manuscrit.

Giorgio Magnifico did have his "national" reasons to build his absolutely greek Palazzo in Venice in 1601:

"Nel più antico palazzo del Campo dei Greci aveva sede il Monastero delle Nobili Monache Greche (1601-1834) e la Scuola delle ragazze greche. Queste istituzioni nonché le adiacenti e famosissime tipografie greche del tempo, costituivano con la chiesa di San Giorgio, un centro di particolare presenza ed attività greco-ortodossa nella laguna veneta.".

...and Saint Germain himself did in fact create his modest " modern Greece" too, so the question, for his french "other half" biographer, will propably be:

Why did he create this 687 "Cochin abbe" if he really was greek?

It's highly doubtfull the french will touch the subject in the forseeable future, so we better answer the question on their behalf:

He did it to protect the french royal line as well as his own "Cochin-french" relatives who remained in France, the act was essential for the security and longevity of both.

Someone working for him did a bad job propably falsifying the original manuscript, he had it thus replaced by a copy.
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Readers may also find following sites interesting
http://www.picure.l.u-tokyo.ac.jp/arc/ercolano/ses/ses_e.html
(On Bourbons, Medicis, Cochin and the Herculaneum digs!)

http://www.zen-it.com/mason/stor&soc/sangro.htm (in italian)
(Relations of Cochin with Raimondo di Sangro, Ramsay and the Stuarts. "I viaggi di Ciro". San Severo's famous capella designed by Cochin as per his frontispiece of "L'Encyclopedie".)

[yanni]

The administrator of this forum removed a "Porphyria's lover by R.Browning" subject written by member J.T.Best-who was propably inspired by post 68 above, titled "Purple colours" and dealing with the subject of porfyria, porfyra etc-right after the undersigned argued that Browning was not just referring to "euthanasia, plain and simple" as per Mr Best, but, as a victorian poet buried in poets corner of Westminster abbey, he was propably referring to King George's III porphyria disease and that, at the time the poem was written 1834-1836, Benjamin Disraeli was making his debut in the british parliament.

On second thoughts the following interpretation is more plausible::
Browning was referring to Giovanni d'Anastasy wife's murder in Zante, mid 1835 (while d'Anastasy was in London for the sale of Henri Salt's collection and the publication of a book on aegyptian discoveries) that also inspired E..A. Poe to write both his Sonnet to Zante, Jan 1837, as per post Nr 1 of this thread as well as the Visionary-Assignment, later on.
"Porphyria's lover" was first published in 1836 as some sources claim while others mention a series of five poems published from 1834 onwards.

The administrator is therefore kindly requested to explain why he removed the subject to begin with.

[yanni]

Adding this forum's administrator to the long list of scholars that have not responded to Yanni's "kind invitation" to reply, we will next devote one more post to "Porphyria's lover".

Brownings best biography: http://www.blackmask.com/thatway/books171c/rbroadex.htm
...artfully avoids to specify the exact date the poem first came to life as follows:

His keen social instincts saved him from most of the infirmities of budding genius; but the poems he contributed to Fox's journal during the following two years (1834-36) show a significant predilection for imagining the extravagances and fanaticisms of lonely self-centred minds. Joannes Agricola, sublime on the dizzy pinnacle of his theological arrogance, looking up through the gorgeous roof of heaven and assured that nothing can stay his course to his destined abode, God's breast; Porphyria's lover, the more uncanny fanatic who murders with a smile; the young man who in his pride of power sees in the failures and mistakes of other men examples providentially intended for his guidance,—it was such subjects as these that touched Browning's fancy in those ardent and sanguine years.

A similar "artfull deception" is to be found at http://www.bartleby.com/223/0303.html

After the publication of Pauline, in 1833, Browning visited Petrograd with Benkhausen, the Russian consul general............to apply—in vain—for a post on a Persian mission. During this period, there is ample evidence of physical and mental exuberance, but little of poetic activity......But his interest in the complicated subtleties of diplomacy appeared in Sordello and Strafford as well as in Prince Hohenstiel-Schwangau—not to mention Bishop Blougram and Caliban upon Setebos. In 1834, however, there appeared in The Monthly Repository a series of five poetic contributions of which the most noteworthy were Porphyria, afterwards entitled Porphyria’s Lover, and the six stanzas beginning “Still ailing, Wind? Wilt be appeased or no,” which were republished in James Lee’s Wife.

...along with a light commentary on Brownings early involvement in british cloak and dagger society.


A parallel study of Ben Disraeli's biography brings forward the similarities of the two men who share apparently not just the same "spiritual principles" but the same semite origins as well.

As we said earlier "greekness" was to be banned after the fall of the french "purple" monarchs so that "paradise" would return to heaven.

Thus "Porphyria's Lover":

The young brit, a realist, in the safety of his warm little country side cottage is visited by Porphyria coming from the cold and the storm. Removing part of her wet and soiled clothing, she tries to seduce him, he thoughtfully gives in ....

That moment she was mine, mine, fair,
Perfectly pure and good: I found
A thing to do,

but as he knows she does not really love him, he then stangles her...

....and all her hair
In one long yellow string I wound
Three times her little throat around,
And strangled her. No pain felt she;
I am quite sure she felt no pain.
As a shut bud that holds a bee,
I warily oped her lids: again.

And even avoids remorse or punishment from above ....

Her head, which droops upon it still:
The smiling rosy little head,
So glad it has its utmost will,
That all it scorn'd at once is fled,
And I, its love, am gain'd instead!
Porphyria's love: she guess'd not how
Her darling one wish would be heard.
And thus we sit together now,
And all night long we have not stirr'd,
And yet God has not said a word!

....because Porphyria's God is weaker than his own!


Does this utterly disgusting poem relate to D'Anastasy's London visit?

It propably does: Poe and the Brownings did correspond, the dates match and furthermore, the fact that no exact publishing date is given is most indicatory.

The "threat to Britain" possibly implied by Browning in the poem is not justified by the biographic data either of D'Anastasy or even his grandfather Saint Germain.

A threat to the "jewish cause" was propably Browning's real motive to write the poem and it must be again pointed out that the 1835 Zante murder perpetrator was Dionisios Salomon, another poet of jewish origins!

A pattern is emerging.....

[yanni]

The "musical" part of this family history research has been neglected thus far, Giulio and Francesca Caccini, the opera founders, only briefly mentioned in "What's in a name?" post along with the "Cochi" name version of the fiorentines.

Gioachino Cocchi, another opera composer, unlike his contemporary musicians, has been deprived of a decent biography, propably because he, "Gioachino", was another alias of Saint Germain himself.

Music "scholars" even disagree on Gioachino's life span, some claiming he was born in Padova, 1720 and died "after 1788", others do not define the place of his 1714 birth and ask themselves if Venice was where he really died in 1804.

Taking therefore Mr Goncour's word for granted, we can safely say that Paris is where he was born in 1714 or 13 and Hydra is where he died in 1803 (as mentioned in previous posts).

Gioachino is known to have composed some 50 music opera pieces and to have been Haymarket theater's manager in London from 1757 to 1762 being then replaced by noneother than J.C.Bach himself, and to have then remained in London for the better part of the next ten years or so, ie until about 1772.

Many of his music works were published there by a Mr I.Walsh during 1758-1776, the last being the folowing:

Le Delizie dell'Opere. Being a Collection of all the Favourite Songs in Score, collected from the Operas compos'd by Bach, Perez, Cocchi, Ciampi, Jomelli, Giardini, Galuppi, Vinci, Pergolesi, Leo, Lampugnani, Terradellas, Hasse, Porpora, C. St Germain, Pescetti, Veracini, Bononcini
ISBN: B0000CV06Q / Unknown Binding
Publisher: Printed for I. Walsh / 1776
http://www.bookfinder4u.co.uk/book_search_2/D_Cocchi.html

In other words Saint Germain "the immortal", was an unbelievably complex personality with a great sense of humor, a biographer's true nightmare.

Below:
a) a 1763 "Walsh" book copypasted for the biography details .........

1763. COCCHI, Gioacchino ca. 1720 - after 1788. Sixteen Songs and Duets With a Thorough Bass for the Harpsichord Also Adapted for the Violin, Hautboy, German Flute, Guitar & Violoncello. [Vocal score]. Opera LXIII. London: 1763. Oblong octavo. Modern half dark orange leather with marbled boards. 1f. (title), 1f. (dedication), pp. 1-8, [9] (blank), 10-16, [17] (blank), 18-60 (some browning and staining to title-page; occasional minor foxing and browning). Engraved throughout, with engraver's name to foot of last page (Pasquali). First Edition. BUC p. 202. RISM C3239 (4 copies only, one in the U.S.). Cocchi was music director at the Haymarket Theatre in London from 1757 to 1762. "During the next five seasons he supervised the production of opere serie, composed several himself and contributed to pasticcios." Cocchi was succeeded by J.C. Bach at the Haymarket in 1762, but continued to live in London for about ten more years, during which time he published several collections of chamber arias and duets, this being one of them. He was also much in demand as a singing teacher. Grove VI, Vol. 4 p. 509.http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/lub/12182.shtml

and

b) a list of perfromances of "Joachino's" plays, indicatory of the mobility and the approximate whereabouts of their creator as well. Noteworthy his "egyptian or eastern" works after 1745 (first trip of Lazarus Cochini to Alexandria in 1745. Note also: Saint Germain's italian trip with de Marigny, Mme Pombadour's brother, Dec 1749 to Sept 1751) as well as his London performances AFTER 1761 (Second voyage of Lazarus C to Alexandria in 1757)

Cocchi, Gioacchino
* ca. 1715
† 1804 in Venedig (?)
La Matilde comedia per musica 2 Akte
Antonio Palomba (Winter 1739 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
Adelaide dpm 3 Akte
Antonio Salvi (Karneval 1743 Rom, Teatro Alibert o delle Dame)
L'Elisa commedia per musica 3 Akte
Palomba (Herbst 1744 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
L'Irene commedia per musica 3 Akte
Domenico Canicà (Frühjahr 1745 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
L'ipocondriaco risanato intermezzo 2 Akte
Carlo Goldoni (Karneval 1746 Rom, Teatro Valle)
Bajazette dpm 3 Akte
Agostino Piovene (Karneval 1746 Rom, Teatro Alibert o delle Dame)
I due fratelli beffati commedia per musica 3 Akte
Eugenio Pigrugispano (Winter 1746 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo)
La maestra commedia per musica 3 Akte
Palomba (Karneval 1747 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo); rev. als La scuola moderna Herbst 1748 Venedig; 11. März 1749 London, King's Theatre; als La Scaltra Governatrice 25. Jan. 1753 Paris, Académie de musique
Merope dpm 3 Akte
Apostolo Zeno (20. Jan. 1748 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo)
Siface dpm 3 Akte
Pietro Metastasio (Karneval 1749 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo)
Arminio dpm 3 Akte
Salvi (Karneval 1749 Rom, Teatro di Torre Argentina)
La serva bacchettona commedia per musica 3 Akte
Palomba (Frühjahr 1749 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
La Gismonda commedia 3 Akte
Palomba (Frühjahr 1750 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini)
Bernardone commedia 3 Akte
Palomba (Karneval 1750 Palermo, Teatro privato Valguarner)i
Siroe, re di Persia dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Karneval 1750 Venedig, Teatro San Giovanni Grisostomo)
La mascherata dramma comico 3 Akte
Goldoni (27. Dez. 1751 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano)
Le donne vendicate dramma comico 3 Akte
Goldoni (Karneval 1751 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano)
Nitocri dpm 3 Akte
Zeno (26. Dez. 1751 Turin, Teatro Regio)
Sesostri, re d'Egitto dpm 3 Akte
Zeno und Pietro Pariati (30. Mai 1752 Neapel, Teatro San Carlo)
Il tutore commedia 2 Akte
Vincenzo Puccinelli (Karneval 1752 Rom, Teatro Valle)
Il finto cieco melodramma 2 Akte
Pietro Trinchera (Herbst 1752 Neapel, Teatro Nuovo sopra Toledo); gemeinsam mit Pasquale Errichelli
La serva astuta commedia per musica 3 Akte
Antonio Palomba, nach Goldoni
Frühjahr 1753 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini (gemeinsam mit Pasquale Errichelli)
Semiramide riconosciuta dramma 3 Akte
Metastasio (Karneval 1753 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano); 1771 London, King's Theatre
Rosmira fedele dramma 3 Akte
Silvio Stampiglia (Himmelfahrtstag 1753 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele)
Il pazzo glorioso dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Antonio Villani (Herbst 1753 Venedig, Teatro Tron di San Cassiano)
Il finto turco commedia 2 Akte
Antonio Palomba/P. Errichelli (Winter 1753 Neapel, Teatro de' Fiorentini (rev. Fassung Winter 1753 ebd.); gemeinsam mit Errichelli
Le nozze di Monsù Fagotto intermezzo 2 Akte (zus. mit G. B. Pescetti)
Angelu Lunghi (Karneval 1754 Rom, Teatro Valle)
Tamerlano dramma 3 Akte
Agostino Piovene (Karneval 1754 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele)
Metastasio (Himmelfahrtstag 1754 Venedig, Teatro Vendramin a San Salvatore)
Li matti per amore dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Genuaro Antonio Federico (Herbst 1754 Venedig, Teatro Grimani di San Samuele)
Il terrazzano intermezzi per musica (Karneval 1754 Florenz, Teatro del Cocomero); 1764 London, King's Theatre
Il cavaliere errante op.buf.
Agostino Medici (Karneval 1755 Ferrara, Teatro Bonacossi)
Andromeda dpm 3 Akte
Vittorio Amadeo Cigna-Santi (Karneval 1755 Turin, Teatro Regio)
Artaserse dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Karneval 1755 Reggio Emilia, Teatro Moderno)
Zoe dpm 3 Akte
Francesco Silvani (26. Dez. 1755 Venedig, Teatro San Benedetto)
Emira dpm 3 Akte (Jan. 1756 Mailand, Regio Ducal Teatro)
Farsetta in musica commedia 2 Akte
Lunghi? (Karneval 1757 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Demetrio, re di Siria dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (8. Nov. 1757 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Zenobia dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (10. Jan. 1758 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Issipile dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Frühjahr 1758 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Ciro riconosciuto dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (Frühjahr 1759 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
La clemenza di Tito dpm 3 Akte
Metastasio (5. Jan. 1760 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Erginda dpm 3 Akte
nach M. Noris (Frühjahr 1760 Bologna, Teatro Marsigli-Rossi)
Tito Manlio dramma 3 Akte
Noris (7. Febr. 1761 London, King's Theatre)
Alessandro nelle Indie dramma 3 Akte
Metastasio (13. Okt. 1761 London, King's Theatre)
Le nozze di Dorina dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Goldoni (Frühjahr 1762 London, King's Theatre)
La famiglia in scompiglio dramma giocoso 3 Akte
Giovan Gualberto Bottarelli (Herbst 1762 London, King's Theatre)

see also following sites
http://itspettacolo.net/spettacolo/C%C3%B2cchi-%20Gioacchino-155C.html
http://search.yahoo.com/search?csz=&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=&toggle=1&dups=1&p=Gioacchino+Cocchi+site%3Aworldcatlibraries.org
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/reader/0393050807/ref=sib_books_ref/701-6656195-7386735?%5Fencoding=UTF8&keywords=Cocchi%2C%20Gioacchino&v=search-inside
http://www.italianopera.org/opera/gioacchino/gioacchino_cocchiE.html
http://www.italianopera.org/compositori/C/c217658E.htm
http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2001/Nov01/kings.htm

[yanni]

According to http://www.esoteria.org/documenti/personaggi/contedisaintgermain.html
Saint Germain, the "unknown", had his opera compositions published by Walsh between 1748-1760, just like Joachino Cocchi. This is documentary of them being one and the same but, between the two, who was the original and who the alias?

Was Charles Nicholas (fils) the son of Charles Nicholas Cochin "pere" or not?

The musical side alltogether of Charles Nicholas Cochin tops the many "little secrets" monsieur Edmond Goncour, his "half biographer", selects to leave in the dark, he thus avoids one of his earlier works concerning opera (Rameau's La Princesse de Navarre, as Staged in the Grand Ecurie, Versailles, 1745. Paris, Musée de l'Opéra. drawing. Bowles Musical Ensembles. fig. 228; Early Music 8 [1980] 148-49)).

Monsieur Goncour is definitely not trustworthy and the problem becomes even more important to solve because of the existence of another "famous" Cocchi, Antonio, the pyhthagorian fiorentine doctor, a life long friend of Isaac Newton and the "first italian whose initiation to masonry has been documented" (http://www.grandeoriente.it/studi/tradpiteng.htm)

Doctor Cocchi saved the life of Horace Walpole in Florence, 1741 while Walpole's father was the First Lord of the Treasury functioning as a “prime minister”. As Horace then met and wrote about the "unknown" Saint Germain/Gioachino Cochi, while he was in London around 1745, describing him as "mad" more or less and not disclosing his real name or identity, the subject is intriquing to say the least.
Dr Cocchi himself was in London "in the ‘40" (1743-45) too as per same site above.

Let's examine doctor Cocchi in more detail

At http://w3.uniroma1.it/anat3b/didatticanew/ANATOMIA%20ROMANA.htm (the site does not load today anymore) the following was copied November 2005:

COCCHI ANTONIO
Nacque nel 1695 in quella parte della Campagna Romana che confinava col Regno di Napoli, e pertanto Renazzi lo definisce “èrnico”. Morì nel 1768.
Nei Ruoli è chiamato Antonio Enrico o Enrico Antonio. Si crede che esiste nello stesso periodo anche un certo Antonio Cocchini.Il suo nome appare dal 1731 al 1742 quale lettore di Chirurgia e Anatomia. Nel 1742 lesse De morbis oculorum. Poi Antonio Cocchi assunse la lettura di Medicina teorica che tenne fino al 1747.
Esiste anche un Antonio Celestino Cocchi che fu anche lettore di Botanica in Roma. Fra le sue opere: Epistola ad Morgagnum de Lente Cristallina oculi.

In other words the fiorentine Dr Cocchi was born Antonio Enrico Cocchini and used this name until 1742. In 1747 he becam "Cocchi" for some reason and there also was an Antonio "Celestino" Cocchi, propably the same man, who taught Botany and optics in Rome at some unknown period.

Why did Dr Cocchi change his name?

For the same reason Saint Germain did: They were both Bourbon agents working for the Stuarts. In 1745 the Stuarts attempted to regain their throne!

What more do we know on Dr Cocchi?

Antonio Cocchi (1695-1758) took a European tour while completing his scientifc studies. While abroad, he accompanied Lord Hastings, who picked him for his knowledge of English, to London, where he became friendly with Newton and Boërhaave, with whom he corresponded until the end of their lives. Upon his return to Italy, he was appointed professor of medicine at Pisa and of anatomy at Florence, but he was consulted on many topics: he was picked by Francis I as the court antiquarian, he helped found Florence's famous botanical society, he drew up regulations for the hospital in Florence. His report on tuberculosis convinced Tuscan authorities to forbid the sale or exportation of anything belonging to consumptives without proper disinfection. He was a fervent vegetarian and was proficient in many languages. He wrote as his first publication a translation of The Loves of Anthias and Abrocoma, a Greek novel by Xenophon of Ephesus, and later prepared the first manuscript of Benevenuto Cellini's Vita. Then followed the medical, anatomical, and scientific works which made him famous. After the publication of Lind's Treatise in 1753, Cocchi edited a new edition of Bachstrom's book (1757).http://www.antiqbook.com/boox/dailey/1075_.shtml

"he was picked by Francis I as the court antiquarian"

In other words he was in charge of the vast antiques collection of Francis I (December 8, 1708 – August 18, 1765), Holy Roman Emperor and Grand Duke of Tuscany, also known as Francis III Stephen, Duke of Lorraine, the second son of Leopold Joseph, duke of Lorraine, and his wife Elizabeth Charlotte, daughter of Philippe I, duc d'Orléans and Elizabeth Charlotte, Princess Palatine.
Maria Theresa and Francis I had sixteen children--their youngest daughter was the future queen consort of France, Marie Antoinette.

Francis I became himself later a "jacobite" mason, by 1735-37 a Stuart lodge was also established in also in Rome and 1738-9 in Savoia, Piemonde, Sardinia, Milano, Napoli, Torino and Naples as well.
*http://www.esoteria.org/documenti/massoneria/vivariense8.htm)

Horace Walpole wrote about Dr Cocchi:
I am very well acquainted with Doctor Cocchi;[2] he is a good sort of man, rather than a great man; he is a plain honest creature, with quiet knowledge, but I dare say all the English have told you, he has a very particular understanding
http://www.freebookstoread.com/lthw210_1.htm

and a bust of him was made in marble by Joseph Wilton in 1755
http://www.library.yale.edu/Walpole/BAC/Cocchi-Z.htm

He followed to London as his personal physician, 1722 et 1726, Lord Théophile Hastings, where he met Isaac Newton with who he corresponded later on
http://www.vegetarisme.fr/Articles/index.php?p=Cocchi.html

On 4 August 1757 Walpole wrote to Mann, "I send you two copies (1 for Dr Cocchi) of a very honourable opening of my press-two amazing odes of Mr Gray-they are Greek, they are Pindaric, they are sublime....
http://www.library.yale.edu/Walpole/BAC/odes-Z.htm

Greek was his mother tonque and he continued the family tradition to print his books at the "Cocchini", by then "imperial publishers", of Florence:

COCCHI, Antonio (editor). Graecorum Chirurgici Libri Sorani unus de fracturarum signis, Oribasii duo de fractis et de luxatis, e collectione Nicetae ab antiquissimo et optimo codice Florentino... Florence: Ex Typographio Imperiali, 1754.
http://www.polybiblio.com/phillips/

He died in 1758 or 1768.

His son, most propably, Joachino Cocchi, aka Charles Nicholas Cochin jr, returned to Paris from London the summer of 1771, welcomed Horace Walpole at "his Louvre", and staged an opera play with an english group headed by a Mr Hobart.

(Letter 34 To The Earl Of Strafford. Paris, August 25, 1771. to follow next).

[yanni]

Madame du Deffand, the famous mistress of the Duc d'Orleans, is herself evidence of relations between Horace Walpole and the "Cocchis"-Cocchinis, ie Antonio and Gioachino/ Saint Germain/"Charles Nicholas Cochin fils":

Walpole made the rare acquaintance of Madame du Deffand in 1765 whereas Goncourt's COCHIN, her intimate friend, drew and engraved her cats "LES CHATS ANGOLA DE Mme DU DEFFAND" in 1746, right after the failed Stuart coup and his return to Paris from Alexandria (As Lazarus Cocchini).

The following extracts from H.Walpole's letter 34 to The Earl Of Strafford from Paris, August 25, 1771 are indicatory of both his aquaintance with "Saint Germain" as well as the fact that he kept the identity of his friend secret, to Earl of Strafford at least:

a) He is being granted access to the royal art collection in Le Louvre, in the custody -undertaken just then propably- of monsieur Goncour's "C.N.Cochin fils". Horace has there, obviously, an art discussion with his host:

My grief is to see the ruinous condition of the palaces and pictures. I was yesterday at the Louvre. Le Brun’s noble gallery, where the battles of Alexander are, and of which he designed the ceiling, and even the shutters, bolts, and locks, is in a worse condition than the old gallery at Somerset-house. It rains in upon the pictures, though there are stores of much more valuable pieces than those of Le Brun. Heaps of glorious works by Raphael and all the great masters are piled up and equally neglected at Versailles. Their care is not less destructive in private houses. The Duke of Orleans’ pictures and the Prince of Monaco’s have been cleaned, and varnished so thick that you may see your face in them; and some of them have been transported from board to cloth, bit by bit, and the seams filled up with colour; so that in ten years they will not be worth sixpence. It makes me as peevish as if I was posterity! I hope your lordship’s works will last longer than these of Louis XIV. The glories of his si`ecle hasten fast to their end, and little will remain but those of his authors.

b) Walpole also meets "composer Cocchi" at the Opera house and notes in particular the composer's opinion on english people and their values:

Crowds assembled at the Opera-house, more for the gratification of the eye than the ear; for neither the invention of a new composer, nor the talents of new singers, attracted the public to the theatre, which was almost abandoned till the arrival of this lady, whose extraordinary merit had an extraordinary recompense; for, besides the six hundred pounds’ salary allowed her by the Honourable Mr. Hobart, as manager, she was complimented with a regallo of six hundred more from the Maccaroni Club. ‘E molto particulare,’ said Cocchi, the Composer; ’ma quei Inglesi non fanno conto d’alcuna cosa se non ben pagata:’ It is very extraordinary that the English set no value upon any thing but what they pay an exorbitant price for.".

http://www.bookrags.com/ebooks/4919/63.html

[yanni]

There is a lot more to be said on what Walpole writes on "the invention of a new composer" above, the british "maccaroni club" in which he belonged and the comments made by Cocchi, the composer, on the english "ways", on Saint Germain's distaste for female "succedanea" (censored by Walpole's editors until 1954) on Savalette de Lange and his "ponpons", on Charles Nicholas and his "bonbons" and the 1786 Louvre theft of Cochin's belongings by a young male friend of his, as per one of his letters so ingeneously quoted by Goncour in his "COCHIN". .

There is however a basic difference between the italian "maccherone" and the british "maccaroni". (see: Rictor Norton, "The Macaroni Club: Homosexual Scandals in 1772", Homosexuality in Eighteenth-Century England: A Sourcebook, http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/macaroni.htm)

Gioachino "Cocchi" is not known to have ever married and "Charles Nicholas Cochin" may have been living a bachelor's life in Paris but "Lazarus" Cocchini had definitely one legal son (Anastasy) and a propably a family house in Avignon, (a hotel today known as "L'Anastasy"), most propably another son "out of marriage" (Dimitri "Lazarou", real father of Bouboulina) and, as Niccolo the corsair, another two or three (Alexandry, Dimitri and Peter di Niccolo Cochini), so there is no question on his virility whatsoever.

Instead of further debating this graceless issue, it is time perhaps to return to poetry-an art occasionaly admired by maccherones too-and suggest to the viewer that the poem below, by Alessandro Manzoni, refers to Angelica Palli's "sicilian" lover, Giovanni d'Anastasy, Saint Germain's succesor and grandson and Poe's greek host .


Alessandro Manzoni
"Ad Angelica Palli"
August 1827

Elected by the heavenly powers,
New Sappho, your rival ancient sister,
so advanced in heavenly verse
and saintly, honest ways,
sings for you and the misery
of the unlawfull Sicilian
in (his) fatal abyss, making me so sad;
thus I, in great sorrow,
offer you the proper applause, my tears.
But you go on believing the simple soul
guiding you to revenge
ready to tear the brilliant shadow (of the past)
if only the villain lover were still alive.
(translation by "Yanni the greek")

Italian text:
Prole eletta dal Ciel, Saffo novella
che la prisca Sorella
di tanto avanzi in bei versi celesti
e in santi modi onesti,
canti della infelice tua rivale,
del Siculo sleale
nello scoglio fatal, m'attristi; ed io
ai numeri dolenti
t'offro il plauso migliore, il pianto mio.
Ma tu credilo intanto ad alma schietta,
che d'insigne vendetta
l'ombra illustre per te placata fora,
se il villano amator vivesse ancora.

This poem, together with Cristina Rosetti's "Artist's Studio" (see relative post in this forum by "Mint") reveals that Poe's "Ianthe", "Lygeia" and "Annabel Lee" all were Angelica Palli herself, as already previously examined in this thread.

The subject will be further elaborated next.

[yanni]

Sources:
Those stated previously as well as:
a) D.Manley's, P.Ree's "Henry Salt, Artist, Traveller, Diplomat, Egyptologist"
b)Navy Records Society Publications, "Piracy in the Levant" London, 1934.

November, 1822 Yanni Anastasiou Cocchini becomes governor of the island of Santorini.

August 1823 John Madox is a guest of Yanni at Gourna. Yanni owns a house and has been staying there for some time as he has already discovered two stone boats.

At the turn of the year Yanni is in Luxor with John Madox. Hay purchases from him a large bronze statue of Osiris.

On March 1824 Yanni is living "with all his family" in Gourna . Riots break out and Yanni's household in is attacked by Arabs seeking to seize the 200 guns he is rumored to own. The leader of the rebels is set to overthrow Mehmet Ali. On the 14th Yanni's household is "left unmolested though 17 local people wer e killed and thrown into the Nile the nighte", yet a rumor spreads that Yanni is killed by rioting felahs that proves false soon after.

On April 12th, Yanni and Madox pass Luxor without stopping. "Ecco la maniera di vostri compagni Inglesi" he tells Madox. Yanni and his cook confront Achmet Pasha, Mehemet Ali's general, at Gourna saving the brits.
On the 16th of April Madox and Hull sailed upriver and on April 22 they met Wilkinson and Westcar's group at Keneh.The fight between Mehemt Ali's troops and the rebels continues. They leave Keneh May 4th and Yanni meets them (Gourna) on the 14th and tells them about the death of Mrs Salt.

(Yanni leaves Gurna April 14th and returns May the 14th).

May the 3rd a reception takes places honouring Angelica Palli at the Palazzo Buondelmonti in Livorno.Among the guests the french printer Firmin Didot fils [Ambroise]", publisher of the political journal "Chroniques du Lévant ou Mémoires sur la Gréce et sur les contrées voisines" and of F.L. Pouqueville's "Histoire de la Régénération de la Gréce".

1825 Jan Yanni writes to Hydra from Santorini re Ibrahim's fleet emminent arrival.

May 1825 Lazaro "Mousiou", Yanni's brother, destroys (brulot) turkish admiral's Khosraw Topal Pasha's first class ship of the line with 64 guns. Khosraw is an old enemy of Mehmet Ali. Bouboulina is murdered the same month in Petsai.

June 1825. Yanni is on a secret mission in Montenegro. He receives the reply of Mr Zacharia Vlasto re greek government call to Serbs to revolt. (June 18th, Henry Salt writes to Bingham Richards that a collection is now at Leghorn, "antiquities to the value of four thousand pounds:The finest collection of papyri existing, the best assortment of Egyptian bronzes, several paintings in encaustic and rich in articles of gold and porcelain...what would make the collection of the Museum the choicest in the world..." ).

April the 2nd Champollion is elected corresponding member of the "Accademia Labronica" of Livorno and a mutual admiration with Angelica Palli is formed. ".... Lo Champollion risiedeva a Montenero, come sappiamo da una lettera di Rosellini a Luigi Muzzi, accademico della Crusca."

March-April 1826. Yanni is again on mission to Montenegro with the same demand.
The Tzar accepts lord Wellington's proposal on mutual "neutrality" for the greek issue..
Missolonghi falls to Ibrahim, Mehmet Ali's son. Yanni's cousin, the engineer who designed and constructed the fort, is killed.

April 20th 1826 Yanni is back to Hydra (he contributes 100 grosia-trksh currency-for the cause).

June 16th 1826 Champollion revisits Angelica (who uses at the time the arab name Zelmire and dresses correspondingly) at Pisa. (They correspond until 1829 and there are some thirty letters at the Biblioteca Labronica di Livorno).

July 1826 Yanni d'Anastasy in Alex becomes a "chevalier de l'ordre Wasa"(swedish) and consul of Sweden and Norway . The first "Cataloque General de la Collection" is published there by his "serviteur & amis" P.Lavison.

Oct 1826 to June 1827 : Lazaro "Mousiou" is imprisoned in Malta by the british. He has been captured with his crew and his ship "Themistocles" by H.M.S.Medina.While in prison some of the crew die.

April 1827: Hydrian "pirates" Francesco and Anastasius (Yanni's father), captains of two vessels with 135 crew, capture off Grambusa Crete the maltese "Superba". The passengers are tied up and "unatural acts" are performed against a cabin boy and a passenger(nationality is not recorded) by the greek sailors in turn. They then anchor the ship 3 miles east of fortress Grambusa , loot her and set her free.

"Greek excavator named Giovanni d'Athanasi provides us with the following account:'during the researches made by the Arabs in the year 1827, at Gourna...... "

June 1827: The greek fleet under lord Cochran attempts unsuccessfully to enter Alexandria's harbor and burn the egyptian ships. Lazaro "Mousiou", just released from Malta, participates in the failed raid. (brother fighting brother?)

August 8th 1827: George Canning dies in London.
"Ad Angelica Palli" by Alessandro Mazzoni, Agosto 1827.
"USS Constitution" is anchored in Smyrna's port.

October 1827: Ibrahim's fleet is destroyed at Navarino .

Yanni is present (approx as from September) when Salt dies in the village of Dessuke, outside Alex, 27th October 1827.

January 1828: Fortress Grambusa surrenders after bombardment by british fleet.

Early 1828 Yanni agrees to sell his first "lot" of papyri and other aegyptiaca to Leyden, Holland.

[yanni]

Yanni and Angelica being both greek, enthusiastic supporters of the greek war for independence, with Champollion as mutual friend and a common interest in egyptian "mysteries", there is no doubt whatsoever that Angelica Palli's "Siculo sleale" and "villano amator" was Yanni d'Anastasy. Manzoni is obviously blaming Yanni for implementing, 1816-1821, Canning's plan to destroy Castelreigh's "Holy Alliance". He is calling him "sicilian" because "Greece" was much too "modern" then and because Yanni propably grew up in Naples and Venice where his grandfather Gioachino was so well established.

Angelica with her children was living with him in 1824 in remote Gurna, Egypt until a war started between Mehmet Ali's forces and the rebels supported by the Ottomans, thus April 14th Yanni escorts his family to Alex, sails with them to Livorno and is back in Gurna May 14th. (one way, it's a week's voyage approx with proper conditions) whereas Angelica with family lives in Livorno until 1829 and then propably moves to Yanni's house in Zante.

Angelica does not die in the Zante murder however: She goes through a period of shock, as her works in her short web biography demonstrate:

"Angelica Palli

Poetessa e scrittrice di origine greca, nata a Livorno nel 1798. Sposò un attivista politico, Giampaolo. Bartolomei che seguì, esule, in Piemonte dopo il 1848. Tradusse dal francese Hugo e dall’inglese Gray e Shakespeare. Fu attiva nei circoli mazziniani livornesi .Morì a Livorno nel 1875.

Opere
Tieste, 1820
Saffo (dramma lirico), Livorno, Masi, 1823
Poesie, Livorno, Masi, 1824
Alessio, ossia gli ultimi giorni di Psara, 1827
Rime in Antologia femminile, Torino, Canfari, 1840
Discorso di una donna alle giovani maritate del suo paese, Torino, 1851
Ruggiero degli Ubaldini, Torino, 1853
Ulrico ed Elfrida (racconto), 1868
La famiglia Roccabruna, 1871
Componimenti drammatici, Livorno, 1872
Racconti, 1876… "

Why then does Yanni tell Madox in 1835 in London that his wife was murdered thus misleading the researcher and what inspired Edgar Allen Poe to write his "Sonnet to Zante" reconfirming her death?

This question will be addressed next.

[yanni]

Let's reconsider how the conclusion on the "murdered" Ianthe was reached:

Three greek sources, as well as indications from greek "Salomon Bros" correspondence and biography, pointed to a male Cocchini, enemy of the Salomons, as the victim. Later indications however by two independent and moreover trustworthy sources (Yanni himself speaking to John Madox in London, late 1835 and Edgar Allen Poe in his "Sonnet to Zante" mourning and cursing for the death of his beloved Zante-Ianthe, January 1837) confirmed eachother and pointed to the specific female victim as well but, because of Manzoni's poem "Ad Angelica Palli", this scenario must be withdrawn and the questions ...

Why then does Yanni tell Madox in 1835 in London that his wife was murdered?
and
What inspired Edgar Allen Poe to write his "Sonnet to Zante" reconfirming her death?

...must be answered:

Yanni, living in Gurna, Egypt with Angelica and their children at the time, hosted John Madox for six long and difficult months, Sept 1823 to March 1824 there. The experiences they shared together brought them quite close and no reason can be found to suggest Yanni purposely mislead Madox, thus the conclusion is reached he really believed himself in London, late 1835, that his wife was murdered, that he was therefore misinformed by his Zante friends and relatives who conveyed to him the bad news wrongly somehow.

Who conveyed then the same wrong news to the man known today by the name "Edgar Allen Poe"?

Yanni was certainly not the kind who would go around telling everybody his misfortunes and as bad news do not generally lead a man to write letters to persons not directly involved, Yanni had no reason to write to his much younger american friend of ten years ago, a man so different than himself who, in addition, was "spiritualy obsessed" with his "murdered" Angelica.

Could it be that John Madox was the one?
Did Madox know Edgar?

According to D.Manley's, P.Ree's "Henry Salt", John Madox came to Egypt on August 1823 as "a traveller". Upon receiving him, Henry Salt then placed him to the care of Yanni in whose house at Gourna Madox stayed, using it as a base to visit Thebes and Luxor etc, as from late 1823.
Early 1824 Madox crossed , for some reason or other, the desert east of the Nile and reached the Red Sea wherefrom, on the 14th of March 1824, he returned to Gurna accompanied by a "young Quaker, John Fowler Hull" (page 221). The two then stayed with Yanni with the rebelion brewing all around that resulted, the next day, in the killing of 17 of Yanni's guards as previously described.

Might this strange second guest of Yanni be our american poet friend scouting his way around and can it be that, like all other "franks" also fled the area and Egypt alltogether to accompany Yanni and family to Livorno where he then remained as guest of beautifull "Zelmire"?

"Al Aaraaf" speaks of remote strange places the author imagined(?), Eyraco, Balbec, Persepolis etc and evidently Edgar "saw places" in Italy next, as his other work shows, and it was only late in 1825 that he made his debut as "philelhene George Townsend Washington's" at Nafplion, Greece, as we have previously seen, (the complaint he filed to the provisional greek goverment for contemplating british protection then), so this assumption is highly possible.

We did also say that John Allen, his foster father, was the same man as
a)John M.Allen, Mr Chryssis philhellene and
b) The "virtuous quaker" who, together with Bentham and lords Eskin and Byron, received in London, March 1823, the greek representative Louriotis (of the revolutionary greek parliament) and discussed the loan for the frigates ordered soon after to US shipyards.

Who had guided the "young Quaker, John Fowler Hull" to the Red Sea's coast and why did John Madox (also escorted, no doubt, by "friendly locals" then) meet him there to pick him up and bring him back to Gurna?

Lacking further evidence these questions cannot be answered with certainty, judging however from what we know so far, neither religion nor science had anything to do with Mr J.F.Hull's "eastern" expoloration that took place at a time when the whole region was in an "up for grabs" and "winner takes all" situation.

Unless someone has something to add or reject, this is....

THE END OF THE POE ANNOUNCEMENT!

Thanks for your attention.

[yanni]

The "author" wishes to return the courtesy to the 12 viewers who granted each a five star-pentagonal too- rating to his Announcement, a rare distinction for such a broad subject, and to comment as follows:
A reader must truly already excel in history and literature not just to understand what it was all about but to enjoy it enough to grade it then so highly!
As the good critics raised no questions, publicaly or privately via email, the conclusion is drawn that both the presentation of the delicate issues as well as the solutions of the famous riddles have been satisfactory, yet, from this author's point of view, this is not quite so:
Important items were left pending, enough to fill another Announcement. In the short list below, an answer will be provided only for the first question raised:

1.Yanni d'Anastasy's biography, although promised, was fiinaly not published, considered to be superfluous and beside the point, yet, as already mentioned, he is on record also as "russian naval officer Ivan Avanassiev". Who was he?
He is the one that taught greek sailors how to construct and use the brulot. His brother Lazaro Musiu used it first, April 1821 .
This bit of info is an additional proof, besides the papyri inheritance etc, of his role as C.N's/Saint Germain's/Count Salticof's grandson and "successor" and, most importantly, of Saint Germain's own identity.

2.Mons. Goncour makes no reference to Charles Nicholas other Cochin french relatives, yet it is common knowledge(the web) that many such existed at the time in Paris (priests, lawyers etc) and were also enobled ("ecuyer") before C.N.. They furthermore managed to survive "Le Terreur", remaining loyal to the new "democratic dynasty" that succeeded Napoleon, maintain their wealth, attain further titles etc etc.
When in fact "COCHIN" was published, the Cochin hospital in Paris, their donation,already flourished and a baron Denys was on a diplomatic mission to- then very troubled- Greece.(A street bears his name today in Piraeus!).
The same seems to have provided Mons.Goncour with a copy of C.N's last will and testament of 1790.
So, why the silence of Mons.Goncour and consequently of baron Denys and his descendants?
Was it just because they considered C.N/ Saint Germain to be a "black ship"?

3 Contrary to the "popular" view, "count" Alessandro Cagliostro was defined to be the same as Giuseppe Balsamo, Casanova's "hero". The Balsami were related both to Zante, the rite of Mizraim's birthplace as well as to specific members of the Zante Cocchini, thus the questions re his travelling companion Atansio and his mentor, the rite's "sage" Ananiah can be answered, his role in the rite further clarified , his relatives role later on in Zante too!

4.There was a Guillelmo Cochini, charge d'affaires of Mehmet Ali in Zante in 1823-24 (only one record). What happened to him, how was he related to Yanni, his father Anastasi, his cousin Michael Petrou Cocchini killed shortly after (1825)? .
Not mentioned in main text above, Guillelmo is one of the two possible victims of the murder, the other being Anastasi, an old man by 1835 .

5 How, when and why did the Palazzo in Venice change hands, who was its last Cocchini owner, what do italians scholars and/or other family members know about it?

6.How did the Zante Cocchini relate to Lazarus Cochin(i)/Saint Germain and his hydrian family?

Re Saint Germain: As a character he is too "large" ("o πολύς" is the adjective Sp.Melas uses, mockingly, for Lazarus Cochini), too remote, for this author to be able to form a clearer picture of him, info is missing, time has passed, changes, geography etc.
Yet, when approached with care and respect, the serious -hard working, almost sweaty- face of the 18th century master of all sciences, arts, languages and diplomacy, in the painting by an "unknown artist"-propably a self portrait- mellows, softens and smiles, he appears in fact to be expressing his understanding and amusement for the humble efforts of his permanently startled descendant:

A very familiar face!

Coming back to the pending items:

Enough indications exist to satisfactorily answer most questions raised above but....due to the sensitivity of the issues, per 2, 3, 4 and 6 in particular, the author feels obliged to write, once more, to some of those concerned and ask them to supply their part of the story!

Until early next year then, come what may!.

[yanni]

"Sheep" not "ship"

(the editing process malfunctions)

[yanni]

sheep not ship

(editing malfunctions)

[yanni]

MEA CULPA

No, it was not "Baron Denys" and, no, it was not Charles Nicholas's "last will and testament" that M.Goncour was looking for::

In his COCHIN Goncour, obviously lacking evidence but already aware that something is wrong with his collection of biograpohic details, he appears to be searching, for long time but in vain, for Charles Nicholas MEMOIRS (some hundreds of handwritten pages). He finds them finally in the possesion of a gentleman by the name "Charles Henry"

M. Charles-Henry, plus heureux que moi, a retrouvé les «Mémoires inédits de Charles-Nicolas Cochin», que, d'après l'indication du «Magasin encyclopédique», j'avais inutilement cherchés parmi les manuscrits de la Bibliothèque nationale.

but fails to mention if he was ever allowed to read them as well as to disclose to his readers the full name of the owner.

He thus makes clear that the matter is beyond public view, thus his work is "incomplete".

Who was M.Charles Henry?

This question must be added to the list of pending items, as nr7, to be answered as above scheduled.

[yanni]

Musically inclined viewers with a sidekick in etymology, may find the following of interest too:

Nicolas Caussin
A famous Jesuit preacher and moralist; b. at Troyes in France, in 1583; d. at Paris, 2 July, 1651. His father, a physician of extensive practice, was able from a competent income to aid materially in the development of the remarkable talents that his son early displayed. Young Caussin's success in oratory, particularly after his entry into the Society of Jesus (1609), was brilliant, and drew to him the attention of the royal family. When the kingdom of Henry IV was fast declining under the impotent sway of the queen-regent, Marie de' Medici, Louis XIII came to the throne. Richelieu summoned Caussin to court to direct the young king's conscience. The task was a difficult one in those disturbed times, but Caussin, with scrupulous earnestness, gave his heart and soul to the work. The king, who relied implicitly on him, was made to realize that peace would once more reign in his realm and in his own soul when he recalled the queen-mother and other members of the royal family from the banishment in which they were languishing. Richelieu disliked this advice and accused Caussin of raising false scruples in the king's mind, and even of holding communications that savoured of treachery or that were at all events disloyal to his sovereign, with another of the royal chaplains. Caussin was at once banished to Quimper-Corentin in Brittany, where he remained until the death of Richelieu in 1643, when he returned to Paris to prepare his works for the press.

Many false statement regarding Caussin's disgrace were current. The Jansenist Arnauld claims that "it was well known from persons intimately connected at the former court of Louis XIII, that Father Caussin considered himself obliged to tell His Majesty that attrition, arising from the fear of hell alone, was not sufficient for justification, as there could be no justification without love of God, and this was what caused his disgrace." Many more surmises were engaged in by other Jansenists, but the reason given above is admitted by unfriendly biographers of the father. Among his works are: "La Cour Sainte" (5 vols.)--"A comprehensive system of moral maxims, pious reflections and historical examples, forming in itself a complete library of rational entertainment, Catholic devotion, and Christian knowledge." It was translated into several languages and has done much to perpetuate his fame. The English translation was printed in Dublin in 1815. "Le parallèle de l'éloquence sacree et profane"; "La vie de Sante Isabelle de France, soeur du roi St. Louis"; "Vie du Cardinal du Richelieu"; "Thesaurus Græcæ Poeseos." For his other works see De Backer, "Bibl. des écriv. de la c. de J." (Liège, 1855), and Sommervogel (new ed., Liège), II Feller, Biog. Univ. (Paris 1834); Duhr, Jesuiten Fabelen (4th ed. , 1904), 670 sqq.; Cherot in Dict. de théol. cath., s.v. JOHN J. CASSIDY
http://jcsm.org/StudyCenter/Catholic_Encyclopedia/03467a.htm

Nicolas Caussin (1580-1651)
Nicolas Caussin taught rhetoric at the Jesuit college in Rouen and later at the College of La Fleche. He was a man of remarkable erudition and a powerful preacher. His success in the pulpit eventually brought him to the attention of Cardinal Richelieu, who also served as prime minister in the court of Louis XIII. Richelieu had Caussin appointed confessor to the king, a position of great sensitivity, if not vulnerability. In time, Richelieu sought to involve Caussin in palace intrigues, the details of which are recorded in Caussin's extant correspondence. When that plan failed, Richelieu ordered him to be sent away from Paris, preferably as far away as Canada. Caussin, however, got only as far as Brittany, where he lived in exile until the death of Louis XIII. He was then able to regain his position in the Court, mainly by virtue of the perceived brilliance of his attacks on the academics in Paris.
Thomas M. Conley, from Rhetoric in the European Tradition
http://www.smcm.edu/users/gtdegentesh/d2/ClasInfl.htm

A bientot amis!

[yanni]

As the recent "Caussin" web discovery indicates, while Concino's intrusion to the french palace has been already historicaly explained to be via the lower quarters, it is now evident that Concino's cousin or uncle, abbe Nicolas Caussini, gained and maintained control of the upper floor including "access to the sky", as confessor, spiritual advisor and general "provider"-as a Luise de La Fayette modestly claimed prior to being beatified-to the dauphin, late King Luis XIII!

Majoring, among others, in aegyptology and hieroglyphics, the Caussini are significant as well as problematic to the outcome of this here "story" the main object of which has always been, as stated, the identification of the 1835 Zante murder victim-relative of Yanni d'Anastasy, the events that led to it, the perpetrators and their reasons and a multitude of secondary as well such as what reasons had a national greek tenor Giovanni Cocchini(1870-1925), to cooperate and tour the East (Turkey, Russia) with a certain theatrical manager by the name Labrunie around 1900, why his carreer then explode to reach as far as Petrograd, Finnland, Ireland, London (1901-8), why he left Smyrne and Turkey in a hurry, 1912, why he drowned himself in alcohol and died in Saloniki early 1925.
This author's grandfather.

Another undeclared-and later-object of this research is to find what forced the tenor's french grandfather Michael Petrou Kokkini to meet his death in 1826 defending Missolonghi from the attack of Mehmet Ali's son, Ibrahim, while other relatives(?) of his such as the previously mentioned Guillelmo Cocchini, Mehmet'Ali's charge d'affaires 1823-24 in Zante and of course Anastasy Kokkini and hydrian family who, as stated, had a prime role in the greek war for independence but, when Canning came to power, all decided to change sides sticking with the egyptians.

Coming back to the Caussinis:

"Significant" not just because they, when placed alongside the Cocchini-Concini-Caccini-Cochin-Cazin both confirm as well as upgrade the family's role in "western history"-in obvious need of revamping-but because their "orientalism" relates so well to the previously discussed aegyptology topic, their travels to the "greek Kokkini" and/or Modern Greece history, their "duties" to the d'Anastasy papyri.

Pointing out that, early in the 17th century, the family was obviously commissioned by the Medicis, as the below quoted marriage in Florence suggests....

Orazio (* 1539 + 1611), Marchese di Monte Santa Maria, Conte di Mealla (con Monte Fiore).....
b) = 1607 Eleonora, figlia di Giambattista Concini e di Camilla Miniati (+ testamento: 23-11-1644)

...to take and hold control of the french royal house.and that this role was continued to the end of the- "cochin" rather than-"capet" dynasty, as the 19th century Caussins further suggest, this author, declaring his permanent amazement on historicaly significant conclusions reached, leaves history rewritting to "scholars" and, hopefully maintaining his focus, will next explain the other adjective used: "Problematic"!

(continued in next)

[yanni]

...because the announced attempt to contact the author's french relatives, the Cochins, regarding the identity of M.Goncour's "Charles Henry"- researching him btw lead to the Caussini discovery-must now wait until all the web "Caussins" are exhausted!

This is no small task because in parallel older "Cochin" related files must now be reexamined. Among others the large file of M.Savalette de Lange, wrongly(?) considered in the past to be another persona of Saint Germain-C.N. Cochin Relative work is almost completed, conclusions reached are "enlightening".

It has already demonstrated that the family had both the interest as well as the means to "improve" their image, that archives have been made up, that "scholars" are, in this here story at least, not to be trusted, that the island of Hydra archive as well as Edgar Allen Poe are the only serious "sources".
(Zante island archives are "missing" and Corfu archives-propably irrelevant to our story-still in a state of "reorganising").
Family records have not been located localy but they certainly do exist, at least in Florence and Paris. Relative attempts for access have produced no answer so far.

A multitude of indications already exist showing that the Salomons and their associates in the 1835 Zante murder were "in contact with" members of the victim's family and that they were also related to the Salomons and the Balsami.

It is furthermore now clear that both the Zante Cocchini and the hydrian Kokkini were as "greek" then as their french relatives today who, as a "grande famille", have inherited, among others, the above mentioned family archives including the documentary evidence required to verify our story.

A "delicately problematic" situation to say the least.

In next posts
a)La paroisse du Saint Benoit in Paris
b)La Seigneury d'Epinay sur Orge.
c) M.Charles Pierre "Savalette de Magnanville etc", keeper of the royal tresor!!

[yanni]

...and its "mysteries"



Having already made clear the reasons behind the eloquent use by the family of the different spelling versions of, basically the same, name, their integral oriental brilliance keeping them inseparable almost against their will, so to speak, one cannot but sit back and amuse himself studying later attempts, by scholars and descendants alike, to crudely maintain this separation in "cut salami" style and detect the unsharpened hatchet's marks in their "work".

Thus:

Mystery #1:
CNC's date and place of birth, the source of E.Goncour, reads as follows:

Le 22 février a été baptisé Charles-Nicolas, né le jour d'aujourd'huy, fils de Charles-Nicolas-Cochin, graveur, et de Louise Magdeleine Hortemele, son épouse, demeurant rue Saint-Jacques. Le parrain Charles-Nicolas Cochin, peintre, demeurant parvis Notre-Dame-de-Bonne-Nouvelle ; la marraine Marie-Anne Peltier, veuve de M. Hortermele, maître libraire de cette paroisse, et ont signé tous. (Extrait des registres des baptêmes de la paroisse Saint-Benoît de Paris pouf l'année 1715.)

So, to the dismay of art collectors and Museums, instead of two we now have three Charles Nicholas Cochins and the french art expert, the authority of Cochin's work, most characteristicaly, avoids to commnet about it.
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#2
While M.Goncour insists that CNC(fils) grew up in rue Saint Jaques with his father and mother, both famous artists as well, he gives emphasis on the artistic background of the mother's side totaly ommiting the well known and well travelled painters Noel (1622 - 1695 as per Achenbach Foundation ) and Nicholas Cochin(1610-1686). Did they leave no descendants?

#3. While M.Goncour forgets to mention other members of the Cochins also living in Rue Saint Jacques, enough to form a "dynasty".....

#4 ...Laurence H. Winnie in his "Family Dynasty, Revolutionary Society: The Cochins of Paris, 1750-1922" defines the head of the family as a Claude Cochin(1656-1728) "mercer" from Mon-Thiery.
(This author not intending to purchase this book, cannot but assume that Charles Nicholas and family are not mentioned, as Noel and Nicolas are also avoided).

#5 Mr Winnie does advise however that "his" Cochins owned two houses in Rue Saint Jacques, at Nrs 12 and 214.

To cut a long story short:

Asking ourselves what access had the "dynasty" on the church to maybe influence the register, we next search the position of the church of Saint Benoit in rue Saint Jacques and find the following:

The "rue" was in fact called Saint-Benoit-le-Bétourné at the time, that the church, Saint Jaques, prospered after l'abbe Jean (or Jacques as per the Catholic encyclopedia) Denis Cochin (1726-1783) was appointed its cure in 1756, that roman-catholique Saint Benoit was converted into a horsemeal storehouse in 1790 while Saint Jacques, patron saint of the jacq-obins, still exists today within L' hôpital Cochin which was founded by abbe Jean or Jacques shortly before his death, the work of charity continued by another Jean Denis Cochin (1789-1841), nephew of the abbe, avocat and mayor of Paris (11th arrond. or 12th arrond.). As we further learn, Jean or Jaques Denis Cochin is now in the process of beatification.We'll see about him-and that-later on

The Hospital's address today is at Nr 27, Rue Saint Jacques and, if Saint Benoitt still existed today, would be placed at Nr 109..

A big street, a big family, a big donation but....yes, they did have "access"!!!!

Coming back to #4, (to make the link with the following post):
No Mon-Thiery exists in Paris and suburbs. A woody Montihery was found (on a Cassini map) next to Epinay, near Versailles, part of the property of Cochin Augustin Henri, son of famous lawyer and parlamentarian Henri Cochin(1687-1749).

Thus "D'Epinay"

[yanni]

On our way to meet M.Charles Henry-an important meeting,we feel-many thoughts cross our mind, things not done right, things forgotten, a general uneasiness for, perhaps, wrong conclusions reached with regard to the identity of St Germain:

Whereas we have no doubt whatsoever that he was the same as composer Gioachino Cocchi and "our Lazarus" Cochini, the uneasiness is solely focused on his CNC's persona, even if, as we have already demonstrated, we have researched the latter thoroughly and have found many similarities leading to this, wrong perhaps, conclusion.
"Once I was myself a decorist" wants Edgar his hero saying, the info coming to him directly from Saint Germain's grand son, Yanni, heir of his papyri but...but...but.

To calm our uneasiness we even read through Goncour's COCHIN once more to find wherefrom, as we remember, our doubts originated-and expressed herein-regarding CNC's age when he passed away in 1790, contradicting his 1715 birthday, also quite suspicious, as our previous post has shown.
We found the following:

Le vendredi 30 avril 1790, Charles-Nicolas Cochin, écuyer....garde des dessins du cabinet du Roi aux galeries du Louvre, secrétaire perpétuel de l'Académie de peinture et sculpture, censeur royal et membre de plusieurs académies, âgé d'environ soixante-dix-sept ans, décédé hier à six heures du matin aux galeries du Louvre, a été inhumé en cette église....«Archives de l'art français, vol. IV.
Still, this bit of info didn't calm our uneasiness, these were troubled times then, the witnesses, his cousins...
"sieur Clément-Louis-Marie-Anne Belle, peintre du Roi, recteur en son Académie royale de peinture et sculpture, surinspecteur des ouvrages de la couronne aux Gobelins, et de maître Antoine-Alexis Belle, avocat au Parlement, conseiller du Roi, commissaire honoraire au Châtelet de Paris"...not obliged to know by heart his exact birth date.

The main source of our worries all along, ofcourse, is CNC's total, life long, and hugely productive, devotion to his art: sketching and, mainly, engraving.

A man's character is shaped and determined by his work, such work, not just artistic but "artisan", hours and hours of manual labour, needing, rather than implulse, momentum. imagination, "fire of the spirit", extreme patience and dexterity only.

From his correspondence furthermore, as presented to us by his good(!) biographer, CNC appears to be not the flashy decision maker, not the fearless revolutionary, not the skilled diplomat in constant motion , not the father of countless children, not the sicilian type, not the owner of immense wealth-well spent for his cause later on-but the stingy bachelor he is, always complaining about his meagre salary and social injustice and doing nothing about it but declaring himself a friend of Necker instead etc etc.

Totally flat, fairly dull, very old in 1790 to turn himself into a corsair, he furthermore appears quite sincere, quite "innocent", his correspondence, his friendhip with Jobert, his sitting at the "table de Magny" revealing all that and more...more...

No...no..he is not our man, he is not our Saint Germain, he is not the man with the very "familiar face". Let's just hope, as our coach slowly approaches d'Epinay and we see La Chevrette in the distance,our host we''ll help us find the "other half" of our explosive ancestor.

[yanni]

As it turns out, our host at La Chevrette is not M.Charles Henry but his father, Augustine-Henry Cochin whom we see in the distance and recognize immediately:

He is, he has been in the past, a strange aquaintance of ours, so strange in fact to have been placed originaly as #1 in our list of tentative Saint Germains, carefully investigated and then put aside and replaced by CNC, the latter fitting both the "decorist" as well as the "Savalette de Lange friend" roles, or so we carelessly thought, selecting the easy road for a reason:

Wasn't it at this same chateau, La Chevrette, where theatrical performances were staged by an equally mysterious theatrical manager "M de Magnaville, garde du Trésor royal", and didn't we attempt in the past to research him too, didn't we then fall, head on, in THE pile of "errors, misspellings, distortions, cover ups", outright lies, were we not truly appaled and asphyxiated at the entrance of this odorous multiple labyrinth, refused to undertake the "demerdement" and retreated?

Was it not Gioachino, in his youth, a theater man, a "master of disguise" already?
Didn't Mme d'Epinay and her friends act their parts in plays staged by a "Charles-Pierre Salavette de Magnanville...locataire", as she writes, of the La Chevrette theater (lettre à Galiani, le 17 7bre 1770, dans Correspondance de Ferdinando Galiani et Louise d'Épinay, t. I, Iettre XXVII) who "monte à son tour des pièces de théâtre" while our distinguished host , Augustine Henry, resident of the chateau, was also there, as we well remember?

Do, perhaps, his presences and absences - recorded with great effort in the past from the online/copy&copyright protected Epinay sur Orge/genealogy website-do they fit the few solid data on Saint Germain, his presences in England and Holland, his alleged duties as "french minister of war", his "Lazarus the greek" appearances,. do they?

No time to check now, a critical meeting is to beginn and there is so much at stake:

St Germain being our sole judge and critic, not a yard stick for cockiness or a ballast to vanity, our duties and obligations are to him alone, to him we report, the compass and the light guiding our tired ship to port.

He already revealed to us his son's identity and his intimate relations with the De Percevals, the "manuscrits du roi" experts and keepers, he did it when our intention was announced to contact, for the second time(!), his/our silent french relatives, he wellcomes us in peace and friendship, we cannot, must not, will not, dissapoint him again: Putting him in same level with Charles Nicholas, his dull -and very distant- cousin, was a mistake too many.

My apologies Sire!

[yanni]

....and "son château de la Chevrette".

(Part I)

The outburst in previous post, reader, must be attributed to this author's indignation upon realising he was just too deaf to hear the song of the sirens, too "upright" to follow their guidance:

Augustin Henry Cochin (AHC), signeur d'Epinay, was removed from the "Saint Germain" list because of the existence of the particular "M.Pierre Savalette de Magnanville" (PSDM) who, 1748, appears to own La Chevrette (as seen below item *1). PSDM is therefore to blame for the following reason:

At the time, Mme d'Epinay (Louise Florence Pétronille de TARDIEU d'ESCLAVELLES, 1726-1783) was not married to PSDM but to Denis Joseph LALIVE de DREUX puis(=later)(?) d'EPINAY. Their 1745 marriage broke off in 1749. (Denis lost his position as collector general of taxes of the King in 1762).

Furthermore:
St Germain's ambiguous relation to Savalette De Lange(SDL)-son of M.Pierre Savalette de Magnanville, born 1745-kept pointing back to Epinay, La Chevrette and its famous Madame and SDL was eventhought to be, for a while, another alias of St Germain, a repelling thought.
Add to that SDL's historic role in the post 1784 events, Mme D'Epinay's part in the enlightenemet, her many lovers and children, the size of her La Live family tree PLUS the two simultaneous owners of La Chevrette, the sumtotal then becomes simply too large to fit the average greek mind, hence the mistake, the retreat, the anger expressed in previous post.

That's all over now :

"Augustin Henri Cochin" (AHC) has been crosschecked, as above mentioned and...

HE IS COMTE SAINT GERMAIN or rather the official identity supplied to Gioachino Cocchi (by his Cochin relatives as well as by their royal "germains") sometime between his 1748 arrival to France and 1756 (first record of the AHC name).All data fit perfectly!!

As we'll see in next post he is also using the "Monsieur de Magnanville" alias (!!) and that is how Gioachino/St Germain's official "theater manager" and "royal treasure keeper" duties were later attributed to the real PSDM, long dead, his son's shameless conduct before and during the Paris events of 1784-1790 never explained by scholars or logicaly justified by "his" father's titles and royal trust.

(continued)

[yanni]

1745-1747 Lazarus Cochini was seen sailing from Hydra to Alex while Gioachino's fiorentine doctor father was well known in London
1748 St Germain first appears in Paris (A.E.Waite) with a sun-tan(!).
1749 Death of Henry Cochin, famous lawyer and chief parliamentarian, alleged father of AHC.
..............
1756 AHC, later "seigneur d'Epinay dy Breuil et du Petit Balizy", first appears on "web published" records in Epinay getting married. In the vicinity many more Cochins exist already.

What does Gioachino/AHC do 1748-1756?:

While the real de Magnanville, father of SDL, is send touring.....
(Tours, Intendants 1745 - 1756: Charles P. de Savalette de Magnanville /http://www.worldstatesmen.org/France_prov.html),
....in 1749, soon after Mme d'Epinay's divorce with M.La Live Joly (owner of Epinay from 1742) an affair obviously develops between her and Gioachino, thus another owner of La Chevrette appears, a theater lover, known until now as, yet another, "de Magnaville"

*1
"Le sieur Magnanville avait aussi, dans son château de la Chevrette, un théâtre vaste et bien conditionné, où jouaient plusieurs dames de la cour. En 1748, on joua l'Engagement téméraire, comédie en trois actes de Jean-Jacques Rousseau." (Dulaure, III, p. 471)
that's how

"Madame d'Epinay, épouse du seigneur du lieu" continues to be "in touch" with "la fine fleur du siècle des Lumières" but, because she soon develops another affection with a M.Dupin de Francueil (their son born May 29, 1753) she leaves La Chevrette soon after and "séjourne de 1754 à 1756 dans une maison de la rue du Mont" where she meets Jean-Jacques Rousseau, her next "beau", while "M.Magnaville"-Gioachino-"Augustin Henry Cochin" gets married in 1756 and leaves for England in 1757 whereas she departs, same year, for Geneva.

C-P-S-De Magnaville's death on the web is mentioned in 1756 at the age of 73, or 1773 at the age of 60, or in 1790 or in 1797 etc, being scholarly confused with his father P-S-de-M or his son but never with the Gioachino alias (recorded dead 1784) whereas the "de Magnanvilles" don't make matters any easier disowning M De Lange while making a mistake with regard to the children of "51. Charles-Pierre Savalette De Magnanville" (1713-1773) with Joly de Choin, ie
a)Charlotte Savalette De Magnanville (1747-1779) and
b) Pierre Savalette (1641-1722)
http://www.boneo.net/BoneoChuteSansseverino.htm.

With regard to the text below:

"SOCIÉTÉ DRAMATIQUE DE M. DE. de 1768 à 1772, M. de Magnanville, garde du Trésor royal, qui passait la belle saison au château de la Chevrette à trois lieues de Paris, avait organisé une troupe de comédie de société qui obtint quelqu'éclat. Acteur et auteur à la fois. M. de Magnanville a composé une pièce en trois actes, les Orphelines, qui obtint le plus grand succès. Le fournisseur principal du théâtre de la Chevrette fut le chevalier de Chastellux qui y fit jouer successivement les Amans portuguais, comédie en un acte; les Prétentions, comédie en 3 actes; et enfin une imitation libre de Roméo et Juliette, tragédie de Shakespeare. // La troupe de la Chevrette était supériurement bien composée; et ses représentations attiraient une foule de spectateurs choisis de la Cour et de la ville. Parmi les actrices, on citait Mme la marquise de Gléon, Mlle de Savalette(sic), sa soeur, et Mme de Pernan, fille de M. de Magnanville...." (Dinaux, II, p. 2)

one must assume that, at the time, La Chevrette and its stage had been recovered, the real M.de Magnanville having returned from his exile in Tours after 1756, and having settled his differences with his royal master......

Quittance du don gratuit de 5,000 1. donnée par Charles-Pierre Lavalette de Magnanville, garde du Trésor du Roi, pour l'année 1760, 1762.
http://www.chez.com/olddoc/pontar/ht/sericc1.htm

and having sold his Magnaville property,keeping La Chevrette, in 1767 (and dying in 1773)

La terre de Magnanville fut vendue en 1767 à Philippe-Guillaume Tavernier de Boullongne.

...as the previous theatrical manager Gioachino "de Magnanville" was at the time otherwise occupied (as we'll see in next post)

With regard to the later strange behavious of Monsieur Savalette de Lange see:.

MOUSSOIR, Georges. "L'Homme Femme": Mlle Savalette de Lange. Paris: Editions de Carnet (1902).. A study of the famous Mademoiselle Savalette de Lange, a highly respected member of the court at Versailles, discovered to be a man only at her "toilette mortuaire".

Savalette, chez M. de (“fermier-général” – voir Capon, 1902, p. xv)
(Arlequin premier ministre, de Florian)(voir aussi Gléon)

After the Paris revolt the La Lives de Jolie claimed the Epinay property.

next: A last word on St Germain!

[yanni]

(The text will justify the change of title)

December 1747, Rousseau returns to Paris, moves to La Chevrette spring 1748 and is asked to take part in "L'Engagement téméraire (OC I, p. 346 et 1423)" given six months to prepare himself for τhε role, a role he never gets. The performance takes place 14th September 1748

"...Made d'Epinay voulut me mettre des amusemens de la Chevrette, Château près de St. Denis appartenant à M. de Bellegarde. Il y avoit un theatre où l'on jouoit souvent des piéces"

."On me chargea d'un rolle que j'étudiai six mois sans relâche, et qu'il fallut me souffler (see the end) d'un bout à l'autre à la réprésentation. Après cette epreuve on ne me proposa plus de rolle (OC I, p. 346).

In other words, while the monsieur of the house is absent his wife enjoys herself partying.
The question is not just who she is partying with but also who the stage manager was, who the father of her next child: :

Angélique-Louise-Charlotte (1 août 1749 - 1er juin 1824), reconnue par Denis d’Épinay bien que son véritable père soit vraisemblablement Dupin de Francueil.

One may well doubt this last statement not just because M Denis Lalive puis(?) d'Epinay had, as we said, later claims on the d'Epinay property- last seen in the hands of Gioachino/AHC/d'Epinay-therefore was willing to reconnue a crocodile as his sister, but also from a theatrical point of view:

To begin with, when St Germain-Gioachino Cocchi "is in town", in 1748, theater lovers all around fall to his charms only, a "Dupin de Francueil" with a dubious theatrical expertise stepping quietly aside

Furthermore, as Abbe Raynal and Baron von Gleichen are registered today among Mme d'Einay's "elect few", often visiting her "salon", one can only wonder how St Germain is avoided when Cochin(CNC)- living nearby btw at his Cheville cottage(Goncour)-took then(1770-80) his chances drawing the former's portrait for his " "Histoire philosophique " and the latter, the dane, was a friend of Cochin/Cocchi/St Germain.

But let's all return and enjoy the "theatre de societe":

(Epinay dates below from fading memory only)

From 1756 to "sometime" 1762 Gioachino is still in London.
His first "Charle-Henry", 21 months old, dies October 1762 at his keepers home in Epinay while his parents are absent.

Early 1763 AHC reappears (first time after 1756) at Epinay-no wife- but immediately returns to Paris because

La représentation du 26 avril ’63 à Auteil préparait une plus grande fête pour le théâtre de la Chaussée d’Antin

.....de la soubrette; le rôle du chevalier avait été confié au baron de Van Swieten; Colardeau représentait le comte et d’Épinay Hortensius; le valet était le président de Salaberry.

Il y avait un orchestre excellent et fort nombreux; la musique, assez bonne quoiqu’il y eût des longueurs et pas mal de réminiscences, était de ce Dupin de Francueil que nous connaissons bien et qui depuis plusieurs années partageait avec quelques amis les bonnes grâces de Mlle de Verrières cadette.

Enfin, dernier détail et digne complément de cette étrange réunion, le souffleur du théâtre n’était autre que l’ancien précepteur des enfants de M. d’Épinay! ” (Maurgas, p. 137-138 http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~trott/societe/soc_V.htm

We have them all now, we see them all clearly, don't we?

The "cornuto" as Hortensius, the alleged "lover" in the dubious role of music supplier*(footnote), the sicilian greek lover-Magna(!) Graecia-Mme d'Epinay's real lover and father of their Angelique-introduced back then at la Chevrette as "précepteur" (tutor) to her children-now acting as a "prompt" or, better still, "inspirer" for them all shortly after the loss of a son.

The show must go on!

*footnote (June 2008): "Dupin de Franceuil" has been identified, int the meantime as yet another "persona" of Saint Germain/Gioachino Cocchi, ie the composer(known to avoid showing himself publicaly) also acted as "souffleur" in this performance. Rousseau's "Bellegarde" above is obviously yet another.

[yanni]

(Part I)

The sirens allowed us a keyhole-peep at Mme d'Epinay's salon the exact moment of time when the conception of "Enlightment", as well as their Angelique, both fathered by Gioachino-Saint Germain aka de Magnanville, in 1748, were taking place !

This unique performance was not free however, there was a ticket to pay:

As son of C.P.S.de Magnaville, M.Savalette de Langes, distinguished member of the maccaroni club, troubles us:

Was Gioachino/St Germain just using the "de Magnaville" name then, in 1748 as we rather hurriedly assumed in previous, or is the "real" CPSM just a later "creation", a cover for St Germain's "batard" son?

Studying the "real" CPSM closely (web) one cannot really find the answer, the immense wealth, properties and seigneuries, ammased around 1743-45, by grandfather Pierre Savalette de Magnanville, a supplier of vinegar, not at all justified by his profession, any "royal contacts" not disclosed, no reason for the "garde de tresor du roi" title found.

At the same time, the common Paris absence of both the "real" de M. ("touring" Tours 1745-1756) as well as St Germain/ Gioachino/De Magnaville-owner of Chevrette in 1748, also not on any french record 1745-1756 apart from the 1748 "de Magnaville" persona, rather increases our worries as....

....3 Saint-Germain made no public appearances as a performer and thus the discovery of a detailed description of two private concerts held in London during the last week of April and the first week of May 1749 is the more valuable and sheds considerable light on the exalted social circles in which he moved. (Haymarket theater records)....obviously as Gioachino Cocchi .

Concluding, we seem unable to answer satisfactorily the following main questions:

A. How was Gioachino-Saint Germain able to build such a complex and multitalented personality?
B. If Savalette de Langes was his son, did they share the same political views, ie did they betray the royal confidence, where they both traitors, even if they(St Germain as De Magnaville and AHCochin) were so royaly rewarded?

Let's see if Voltaire can help us find the answer to the first and, as for the second, the hope is expressed that others, perhaps as concerned, will answer it publicaly before we do!

(continued with Part II)

[yanni]

Part II

Voltaire?

His.....famous statement from 1758 in his ironic letter to Frederick of Prussia, that St Germain is "a man who never dies, and who knows everything,"..... "who will probably have the honour of seeing your Majesty in the course of fifty years." must be addressed at this point:

Voltaire was in "good terms" with the prussians and had moreover a deep knowledge of the parisian upper class thus someone aware of the role of les Cochin&Co can easily conclude that V's statement is not just ironic but envious as well and that, fearing the eventual interception of his correspondence, he is would provide all necessary clarification verbally only.

He is telling us, therefore, a lot:

"A man who never dies..." what he means is: "St Germain" was always at the side of the french monarchs, something like an institution, a royal secret service perhaps and, as such, enemies #1 of Frederick who will defeat them "in the course of fifty years" only unless.....

"...and who knows everything" : V's contemporay Saint Germain, the person, was supported by a whole group of others, mainly scholars, ie they had control and access to "gnosis", they studied science, arts, philosophy, people, diplomacy, they possessed large libraries and files.

The legendary St Germain himself, a multilinguist, violinist, chemist, decorist, "great pretender", top diplomat and Luis XV chief "spy", claiming he lived in the past and even spoke with Jesus Christ, is in fact saying exactly the same (as all true bookfans/library owners understand): He had a large library and truly emerged himself reading for long periods of time.

(continued)

[yanni]

Question A:

How was Saint Germain able to build such a complex and multitalented personality?

Examining Gioachino/A.H.Cochin's "associates" (the web), one immediately notices their common characteristics: They are all in control of "knowledge", libraries, archives etc, they all excel in their fields, they all enjoy the royal trust and titles, they are all in close contact with eachother.

One by one:

CNC, fils and pere (plus the unknown third), as the Versailles "decorists", engravers-printers, art critic, royal censor, keeper of royal treasure (art) in the Louvre, whose library was lost and searched for by his relatives, who was awarded many gold and silver metals by Catherine of Russia(Goncour), for her first collection of european paintings that lead to the creation of L'Hermittage in St Petersburg, Franklin's portraitist....

...the de Percevals with their oriental multilinguism, their Bejot father in law, their responsibilities as keepers of manuscripts in the royal library, later partly lost but including (then):

Le livre de la grande table Hakemite, manuscrit appartenant à la Bibliothèque de l'Université de Leyden (another family jewel now at Leyden!!!)...

...the Cassini dynasty, in control of the Paris observatory and its library...(Jean Dominique et Jacques (Cassini) ne furent jamais directeurs officiels de l'Observatoire de Paris. Le titre ne fut accordé que le 12 novembre 1771, à César-François)....

....Claude Denis Cochin(1698-1786, married to a "Lev" woman also residing in rue St Jacques), the botanist-chemist, designer of Le Jardin des Plantes(Alexandra Cook) as well as gardens at Versailles, a friend of J.J.Rousseau, himself a chemist, and Mme de Pompadour ....

...his son Jacques Denis Cochin (1726-1783), the St Jacques priest, keeper of the Jacqu-obin register and files....

....."odd man out" Gioachino, the "great pretender", the fiorentine, then sicilian (Naples), son of dr Antonio Cocchi (see web: Florence Palazzo Cocchi), Ben.Cellini's friend, keeper of the antique collection of Francis I, "in touch" with the Cocchini publishers, ie St Germain the violonist-stage manager, the "seigneur d'Epinay, Breuil et Balisy Augustin Henry Cochin" (no profession on record yet his life closely monitored by Cochin lawyers from the beginning to the end as below), the "souffleur" of the "Societes de pensees" (the "machine" his distant conservative catholic-royalist grandnephew(??) Augustin Cochin later tried so hard to define and confine, propably avoiding AHC alltogether) via "le salon" of Mme d'Epinay and their circle, tentative owner of La Chevrette (and perhaps a quarter(?) of Paris suburbs around Versailles) as M.De Magnanville "garde du tresor royal", the man in command of the royal secret society who, through M. Chevallier d' Eon propably, another member of the maccaronis, enthroned Czarina Aikaterina "the great" in 1762. a major diplomatic triumph for France .

And then the parliamentary lawyers, following the steps of the late Henri Cochin, alleged father of AHCochin/Gioachino:

....a Henry Cochin, avocat, incharge of the Lorraine archives, monitoring Gioachino along with le marquis de Montpezat, conseillieur du roi (see web: His wife's portrait by Carmontel next to Mme de Gleon's) .

....a Jean Cochin, avocat, also monitoring along with the others above...

...they all, together, the "germains" of the french royal house, the intermediaries with Florence, Austria- even after the death in 1765 of Francis I ( Marie Antoinette's father) Holy Roman Emperor and Grand Duke of Tuscany and Lorraine etc and Lorraine's subsequent annexation to France-as well as Naples, the "Two Sicilies"....

.....they all fulfill Voltaire's specification to the letter, their "royal secret service" role becoming even more vital to the survival of dynasty AFTER Luis XIV death in 1774 and Choiseul's discgrace and.....

....NO monsieur "Winnie Lawrence" , THEY were not "mercers"!

We'll now focus our attention to question B following:

(continued)

[ShoutGrace]

Hey thanks for doing all this decoding yanni! :banana:

[yanni]

Question B:

If Savalette de Langes was St Germain's son, did they share the same political views, ie did they betray the royal confidence, were they both traitors?

The rule "like father like son" rarely applying, particularly when the former is a legend while the latter the unlucky- "out of marriage" propably-result of one of Gioachino's first conquests in France, the answer should be negative, ie they could not have shared the same life style or political attitude to beginn with.

With history and literature pointing the finger at Savalette, leaving Saint Germain basically "untouched", we further have another strong argument in favour of the former, an argument made even stronger when the trustworthiness of the "sources" is taken into account as well:

Besides M. Moussoir and M.Florian (Voltaire's nephew), authors of questionable intent, we next have a monsieur Rose de Saint Pierre, a theatrical manager, accusing the already late SDL (masonic sources define his death in 1788, others during or because of the first events of 1789-90, others in 1797) of leading the crowd into the Palace thus causing the looting that followed:

"....la foule avait envahi -sans payer- les lieux à l'instigation de M. Savalette de l'Ange, capitaine du poste du Palais Royal, qui lançait des appels révolutionnaires"...
Considering the circumstances, this testimony appears rather biased.

We then have hearsay and further "throwing the book" on the "guilty departed".

A scheme for recruiting a citizen army was drawn up, and Savalette de Lange, of the royal household, is said to have been responsible for its execution. At the opening of the Revolution he appeared before the municipal councillors of Paris, followed by a few men crying, “ Let us save the country,” thereby exciting no little emulation. “ Messieurs,” he said : “ Voici des citoyens que j’ai exercés à manier les armes pour la défense de la patrie; je me suis point fait leur majeur ou leur général, nous sommes tous égaux, je suis simplement caporal, mais j’ai donné l’exemple ; ordonnez que tous les citoyens le suivent, que la nation prenne les armes, et la liberté est invincible.” (15“ Le Couteulx de Canteleu,” p. 211).

We then have....
. Journal de Corberon.(http://www.egodoc.revues.org/corberon/subjs/S630612/SujOcc630612.htm)
5 février 1775 : "J'ai appris de Savalette que son nom de société est Pompon"

where "pompon" is described as selling positions to the foreign service shortly before Saint Germain's is appointed in the war ministry (October 1775), a possible attempt to discredit a strong father through a weak son by his political opponents..

We finally have monsieur Mirabeau and other "insiders" of french jacobite lodges ....

[I]...general Convent of Masons in France and abroad was convoked by the secret committee for February 15, 1785. Savalette de Langes was elected president, and among the deputies were: Saint‑Germain, Saint‑Martin, Etrilla, Mesmer, Cagliostro, Mirabeau and Talleyrand, Bode, Dalberg, Baron de Gleichen, Lavater, Prince Louis de Hesse, and also deputies from the Grand Orients of Poland and Lithuania. The Duc d'Orleans was then Grand master under its jurisdiction and order lodges of 282 towns in France and abroad

At this Congress the French Revolution and its propagation throughout Europe was resolved upon even to the decree of regicide. The part, according to Mirabeau, to be taken by the people is thus described in his Memoires by Marmontel: “Have we to fear the great part of the nation which knows not our projects, and would not be disposed to lend us their support?
[I]
(Mirabeau, was at the time in London and this particular general convention ended, as we remember, with Cagliostro thrown to jail after the affaire).

Mirabeau's biography, "international" relations and very questionable role as a intermediary between his jacobin friends and the royal family, have already defined him: His word is not to be taken seriously.

All the above lead us to conclude that M.de Langes aka "Pompon", an unfortunate man of weak character and vulnerable habits, a "leader" by title only, who lived all his life, save the end, in the shadow of his father, long gone from Paris when Pompon became master of royal etiquette and ceremony in the last days of the monarchy, was not a traitor, at least not by choice or design but perhaps by last moment cowardiness, "save own skin" short of performance.

As for Gioachino/Saint Germain:

We'll address the issue later if and when ready.

[yanni]

Part I

As it turns out, monsieur JEAN PIERRE CLARIS DE FLORIAN (1755-1794), a mason (Membre de la Loge Les Neuf Soeurs, 1779) and a member (Élu en 1788 au fauteuil 29) of the royal academy of french genii, then on the cliff's edge like the rest of "old" France, was a theater man himself (Florian's THÉÂTRE. Quatrieme Édition. Paris: P. Didot, 1790)

As such he certainly knew M.De Magnaville's artistic and other endeavours, as much so or perhaps even better than present day historians and art scholars but, unlike them, he could not keep his lying mouth shut:

Just by the title of his book "Arlequin-premier ministre", Florian links son Savalette ("arlequin-") to father Gioachino ("premier ministre") and, when his "Fables" are next examined, the multi coloured Arlequin gentleman, the subject of discussion of the three "foreign" birdies, clearly "sing" to us his hate and envy for the "fiorentine foreigners" who ruled France but had by then (1788) dissappeared from Paris (as we'll soon discover) with the exception of his "arlequin", enjoying the royal trust to the very end.

As for Mirabeau with the smooth tongue:

Victor, Marquise de Mirabeau (fiorentine Richetti family) was the seigneur of...

Le Bignon-Mirabeau, Région.Centre, Département : Loiret. Au XVIIIème siècle, le seigneur justicier était le marquis de Mirabeau, (Honore) qui naquit au château de Bignon en 1749.

...and, as such, both father and son, were well aquainted with....

Famille COCHIN ; COCHAIN - BAUJARD ; BEAUJARD ; BAUJAR Mariage: 21 juillet 1750 ΰ Le Bignon-Mirabeau, 45, LOIRET...

...themselves obviously related to the "beaux arts". Thus Victor's book, published 1763, was decorated by none other than Charles Nicholas Cochin (fils), then truly in charge of french "beauxarts", and his "subordinates":

LE FRANC de POMPIGNAN. - Poésies sacrées et philosophiques, tirées des livres saints..suivie de l’Examen des poésies sacrées, du marquis de Mirabeau.- A Paris, de l’imprimerie de Prault, 1763.-
Edition ornée d’un fleuron sur le titre par Eisen, gravé par Lemire, et 6 vignettes par Cochin, gravées par Prévost.

Father Victor waisted his life trying to correct "batard" (in character) son Honore but failed.

Totaly dishonored, Honore died in 1791.

Florian, aquitted by the jacobins after spending a short time in prison, outlasted Honore by three years. He died young.

We are thankful to both of them: Their malicious candour guided our research a step further.

We'll next envisage "truth" as mirrored on the two sides of a rusty guillotin blade.

[yanni]

Part II
Listed below are ALL family members condemned to die by the guillotin during the "terreur" in France.

Excluding the last, they are all residing in the greater Eure-Loire area (where Bignon-Mirabeau is located) and, facing execution, they all insist very "nationalisticaly", on using different spelling versions of their sirname although closely related, brothers and cousins, and sharing the same prison cells.


COCHIN Hugues, domicilié à Chanteloup, département de Mayenne et Loire, condamné à mort comme brigand de la Vendée, le 16 nivôse an 2, par la commission militaire séante à Nantes.

CACHIN Pierre, domicilié à Chanteloup, département de Mayenne et Loire, condamné à mort comme brigand de la Vendée, le 16 nivôse an 2, par la commission militaire séante à Nantes.

CASSIN Jean, domicilié à Mondejean, département de Mayenne et Loire, condamné à mort comme brigand de la Vendée, le 13 nivôse an 2, par la commission militaire séante à Nantes.

CASSIN François, domicilié à Chanteloup, département de Mayenne et Loire, condamné à mort comme brigand de la Vendée, le 16 nivôse an 2, par la commission militaire séante à Nantes.

CASSIN Jean, domicilié à Couron, département de Mayenne et Loire, condamné à mort comme brigand de la Vendée, le 6 nivôse an 2, par la commission militaire séante à Savenay.

CASSIN Marie, de Chanteloup, fusillée le 1er février 1794
Marie Cassin, 44 ans, veuve de Pierre Moreau, née à Chanteloup, y habitait la métairie de Rocheveaud. Arrêtée chez elle, le 15 janvier 1794, elle fut interrogée par le Comité de surveillance de Cholet. Elle reconnaît qu'elle a donné à manger aux soldats qui passaient, sans chercher à savoir s'ils étaient brigands ou non.Quand on lui demande si elle a prié pour le succès des armées rebelles, elle a cette noble réponse : " Je n'ai jamais prié le Bon Dieu que pour la paix et l'union pour tout le monde ". Interrogée à Angers par Vacheron, le 24 janvier 1794, elle est jugée comme préférant les prêtres non sermentés et fanatique. Fusillée le 1er février.

CASSIN Mathurin, domicilié à Latour-Landy, département de Mayenne et Loire, condamné à mort comme brigand de la Vendée, le 17 frimaire an 2, par la commission militaire séante à Doué.

CAUSSIGNY Joseph Louis, (dit Valbelle), ex noble, domicilié à Aix, département des Bouches du Rhône, condamné à mort comme contre-révolutionnaire, le 21 germinal an 2, par le tribunal criminel dudit département.

No other Cochins or even De Langes, Savalettes, Magnanvilles etc were found in the relevant "guillotin" site.

(continued)

[yanni]

Part III

At http://perso.orange.fr/claude.jondeau/ix43n2.html#O, some 60 plus Cochins are on record (1700-1850) in Eure et Loire (result of "Cochin+Bignon+Mirabeau" web search)

"Cachin+Bignon +Mirabeau" produces just two Cachins, long dead by 1794,
at http://www.gatinaisgeneal.org/roberte/ix43n0.htm

and just one Cassin (Louis (334-2) Naissance : 1747. (not among the executed)
http://www.gatinaisgeneal.org/roberte/pag66.htm#12

In other words:

The name change before the guillotin was compulsory!

...and rather definining for the attitude of the survivors, if any.

The next question is how did the Paris lot escape the guillotin?

Gioachino/Saint Germain/Augustin Henry Cochin, first and foremost as well as the "mercer dynasty" of monsieur Winnie Lawrence, where did they all go leaving their poorer relatives to pay the heavy penalty?

Maybe the last in the list....

CAUSSIGNY Joseph Louis, (dit Valbelle), ex noble, domicilié à Aix, département des Bouches du Rhône, condamné à mort comme contre-révolutionnaire, le 21 germinal an 2, par le tribunal criminel dudit département.

..has something to say on the subject!

Next: The sea view.

[yanni]

The sea view!

Part I

Reaching 1794, La Provence and the Med, we discover that "Caussigny Joseph Luis (dit Valbelle)" has dropped his G on the way transforming himself into

....Joseph Louis de Caussini (bâtard du marquis Omer de Valbelle) meurt sur l'échafaud à Marseille en 1794 pour avoir prêté main-forte à la contre-révolution.....

Belle Marseille, France's main port for sailing to the Levant, suitable for bringing in heavy cargo, such as classical greek and egyptian antiques for instance, hence the Musee Calvet housing today France's first ever "egyptian collection" as well as some classical greek items, the rest, in great demand pre 1800's, having being long transported to Paris.

Actually it's not the first time we visit the Calvet: It was sometime in July, 2005 that we first contacted them inquiring about the eventual link between their egyptian antiques and an "Anastasy Cocchini" father of the famous "armenian" papyri-and heavier items- collector and the latter's eventual relation to Monsieur Sallier, mayor of Aix around 1804-1807, early owner of some of the "d'Anastasy" papyri.

"No, no", the kind curator replied (in step with the rest of "them") she knew nothing on the subject whatsoever! (Best regards dear Madame O!)

Apart from a faint web reference for a family of consuls in Marseille by the name of Cassin or Cazin nothing else is online linking the Cochins to the Med except the above bâtard, a promising prospect, as we'll soon see.

The other link is not on the Med:.

Belleville sur Mer, found in a set of drawings for a "Salle de Billiards" for a "M.Cochin,inspecteur général des ports de mer" is north of Rouen and opposite Portsmouth (http://digicoll.library.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/DLDecArts/DLDecArts-idx?type=article&byte=941740&isize=M), totaly unsuitable for antique collectors but the perfect place to find Gioachino/Saint Germain around 1761-65.
No sirname or date is given by the good site however but neveryoumind, dear "scholars"!

(continued)

[yanni]

Part II.

To come back to the "batard Caussini dit de Valbelle",

Le site officiel de la Mairie de Venelles informs us today that Venelle's territory in La Provence, (reaching the sea front, with Entremont at its center, some 3 km from Aix) belonged from 1753 up to the revolution to the Caussini family, last of which the "batard":.

- 1753 Famille de Caussini
*Joseph Louis de Caussini (bâtard du marquis Omer de Valbelle) meurt sur l'échafaud à Marseille en 1794 pour avoir prêté main-forte à la contre-révolution
*les terres du condamné Caussini sont divisées en 20 lots et vendues à des agriculteurs du terroir (Chieusse, Bajolle, Chabaud, Magnan, Laurin, Coste, Reynier, etc.)

Le batard also inherited the territories of - art loving antique collector- comte Joseph-Alphonse-Omer de Valbelle, marquis de Tourves (1729-1778), including his chateau http://www.documentation-provence.org/orgs/127.htm see also chateau Valbelles and link with Diderot etc at http://www.merveilles-du-var.net/merveilles/descr_valbelle.htm

..as well as Aix centre itself:

Joseph-Louis de Caussini, baron de Valbelle, que la providence semblait avoir destiné à perpétuer ce beau nom par le don que le comte de Valbelle et la mère de celui-ci qui lui avait survécu, avaient fait audit M. de Caussini de la terre de Valbelle, auprès de Sisteron, de la baronnie de Meyrargues et de l'hôtel à Aix dont nous parlons, ne jouit que peu d'années de ces libéralités, ayant été mis à mort à Marseille pendant la révolution, en 1794, comme nous le dirons ailleurs, et ne laissant qu'une fille mariée à Aix, en 1812, dans la
maison d'Albertas.

Following his death in 1794 a part of his agricultural land. was confiscated and sold to local families...

*les terres du condamné Caussini sont divisées en 20 lots et vendues à des agriculteurs du terroir (Chieusse, Bajolle, Chabaud, Magnan, Laurin, Coste, Reynier, etc.)

...whereas some of his houses in downtown Aix became the property of mayor Sallier, the "Anastasy papyri" owner!!!!!

La première, celle qui fait le coin de la rue de Suffren, à l'opposite du couvent dont nous venons de parler, fut acquise en 1810, par M. François Sallier, qui avait été maire d'Aix pendant quatre ans, et à qui la ville est redevable de plusieurs établissements importants, notamment de celui de l'école de dessin, fondée, il est vrai, en 1770, par le duc de Villars,

We found all our answers but lost our orientation once again:

Didn't Honoré Armand, duc de Villars, prince de Martigues (1702-1770) die in 1770?. (http://www.antiquesatoz.com/sgfleece/knights4.htm)

Did he "fondee" his "ecole de dessin" from his death bed or did he imagine founding it earlier on in his 1765 will....

.....testament du 27 juin 1765, Honoré Armand, duc de Villars, gouverneur de Provence lègue à la ville d'Aix-en-Provence une somme importante destinée à la création de plusieurs établissements : une bibliothèque publique, un jardin des plantes, un cabinet d'antiquités et de médailles et une écode de dessin.

No, that's not the sea view, it's the same old "vue de mer(de)" again!

[yanni]

You are obviously lost, dear reader, an explanation is required:

When one's "french roots" are examined from the island of Hydra, the sea inbetween, the Med, is essential and, so far in this research, it was absent even if the works, both of Joachino Cocchi as well as of les De Percevals, tasted of it's salt, of Naples, the Levant, Greece, Alexandria, Constantinople etc etc

Marseilles and Provence had been previously searched for Cochins and Cachins but not for Caussins, thus the Aix "Caussini" discovery along with mayor Sallier, of 1803-1806, can be characterised as a major landmark and a success as .....

...ALL "Hydra-Zante-Constantinople" pointers of published heraldic research confirm that the Kokkini of Hydra are the same as the Caussins de Perceval and, as such, also linked to the "sicialian" Gioachino Cocchi/St Germain/ AHC:

Augustin Henry Cochin, seigneur d'Epinay, February 1778, hosts the marriage of Caussin Jaques Nicholas's daughter (sister of the Caussin de Perceval senior), in the presence of the father of the bride as well as grandfather Bejot "professeur du college royal".

Furthermore one of seigneur d'Epinay's daughters, appears(the web) married to a "Viscomte de Belsunce" who demolished La Chevrette in 1786 as per local records, being unable to maintain the chateau.
(Belsunce is located in downtown Marseilles!)

If the Cochins owned "a quarter of the suburbs of Paris" around 1760-65, as stated, and the Caussins, owned half of La Provence (and apparently governed the lot (as from 1778 and until the revolution), then their joint dissappearance around 1785, leaving just the brave "batard" and the Loret lot behind for the guillotin, makes this research more "demanding" and intriquing, at least from a "greek" point of view:

Why did Saint Germain, the most influential family member, stage his 1784 death?

And staging his death, he did:

His Epinay funeral, at 54(!) years of age as recorded, on the 30th of April 1784, ie a two months after his previous "Saint Germain" Eckrenforde death, is much too neat and timely to be believed, much too close to other events taking place at the time such as....for instance(!)

April 1784, with Luis XVI's approval "Figaro's marriage" goes on stage in Paris by M. Beaumarchais- Pierre-Augustin Caron

....etc....

Why did he decide to leave France?

Why did he choose Greece?

How many more Cochins and Caussins "followed the leader" and what became of them next?

Rather important questions to be left in the dark for so long!

Next post propably on April the 2nd next year!

BTW

"Cassini" first become "Caussin", jesuits, with the assistance of Rabelais!
http://www.voltaire-integral.com/Html/26/24_Rabelais.html

[yanni]

Enough evidence has been produced already to persuade any reader following this subject that "authorities" never really lost track of "Saint Germain" and his "components" in France and the "Levant".

As the core of this, now four centuries old, secret has been revealed and, moreover, as many hints have already been given to enable "insiders" to guess what the future holds, this author can only attribute the resulting silence not just to stupefication but to a scholarly actual "peripheral" ignorance as well!.

The "dynasty's" reluctance to answer "family reunion" calls may have different reasons however!

To be more specific:

Whereas the french family not just survived the "terror" but, after a short absence, reemerged triumphant in "republican monarchy" and "progressive catholic" and even "democratic" France (their path to glory easy to follow today on the web), at the same time their stubborn "old regime" greek counterparts were being monitored (and utilised to exhaustion) by such authorities as Messrs August de Jassaud, "Memoires", 1808/ admiral E.Jurien de la Graviere, (+1892), "La Station du Levant" and Matton.R. "Hydra et la guerre maritime(1821-7)", L'Institute Francais d'Athen, 1953 and others. Said publications, carefully avoiding any specific reference, were naturally accompanied by confidential reports to the French Foreign Ministry!

Furthermore: The archives of the French Ministry of Justice include today(as verified) the "Hilarion Couturier(french consul in Athens) vs Anastasy Cocchini case" (1807-1816), the Louvre archives Champollion's correspondence with Jean d'Anastasy etc etc...

I.E:

Any "professional" historian with access to the above can easily reconstruct their post 1785 history today with the following exception only (hopefully):

The 1835 Zante murder (a family matter and a well kept secret apparently) that will be addressed next on a "working hypothesis" basis so that the "accused" enjoy benefit of doubt!

Whereas "saints" should normally exclude " philanthropic Simon Templars", real family stories turned legends don't always end in tears!

[yanni]

The following extracts maybe of further interest to "history revamping" scholars

Gibbon's Journey from Geneva to Rome. His Journal from 20 April to 2 October 1764,

Avrà tuttavia occasione di avvicinare due personaggi in vista di quel mondo: il vecchio Lami e Raimondo Cocchi. Fu il Lami stesso che, prevenuto dal Bartoli, venne a cercarlo. La sua apparizione, la mattina del 27 giugno, lasciò i due amici esterrefatti: non potevano immaginarsi figura più sordida, più ripugnante (pp. 122, 254). Lo rivedrà una sola volta, allorché andrà a visitare la Riccardiana (p. 154). Vide, invece, più volte il Cocchi. Lo conobbe, sembra, in una compagnia d'inglesi, il 28 luglio; ma gli fece così fiacca impressione da neppur nominarlo (p. 187 n. 2). Lo rivide necessariamente quando volle visitare il gabinetto delle medaglie: il Cocchi era "antiquario nella R. Galleria". Ma non amava le medaglie, anzi le disprezzava: amava assai più la professione di medico. La sua indifferenza e addirittura estraneità al museo che era affidato alle sue cure, le negligenze, i modi svagati irritarono fortemente il Gibbon (pp. 193, 194, 204). Anche l' "esprit" che tutti gli riconoscevano era di un genere che non gli piaceva: "Au reste l'air gredin, les manieres presque extravagantes et les propos singuliers annoncent un philosophe, si l'on veut distinguer un philosophe d'un homme raisonnable" (p. 193). Si trattava, anche ai suoi occhi, di una incompatibilità istintiva, di un'avversione irreducibile: "je ne lui trouve point le genie qu'on lui attribue; c'est peut-etre parce que les notres ne sont pas analogues" (p. 197). Osservandolo meglio, vale a dire con più malignità, finì per rinvenire in lui addirittura sentimenti bassi e mancanza di dignità: "J'entrevois de l'extravagance dans ses idées, de l'affectation dans ses manieres et de la bassesse dans ses sentimens. Il se plaint à tout moment de sa pauvretè. Il connoit peu la veritable dignitè de l'homme de lettres" (p. 204). Non gli sembrava di averne già detto male abbastanza. Peccato che il G. si tenga così nel vago a proposito delle "stravaganti" idee del suo interlocutore: tanto più che l'ultima conversazione, da quanto ne lascia intravedere, aveva contenuto politico, toccava anzi aspetti della vita politica inglese. Si sa che il Cocchi era ancor più anglofilo di suo padre; ed è ben nota la sua amicizia per Paoli e il suo attivo aiuto alla causa còrsa[22].


(22)...R. Cocchi e le sue "Lettere italiane sopra la Corsica, in: ASC, XVIII, 1942, 241-256. L'attribuzione delle Lettere al Cocchi è però errata: le Lettere italiane sono di Luca Magnanima (cfr. "Novelle Letterarie", Firenze 1775, col. 503). Il Paoli nella lettera al Cocchi da Londra del 13 settembre 1770 ("Oh qual piacere avrei di abbracciarla! per dimandarle ragione a cazzotti di non avermi mandato il libro che ha dato fuori sull'infelice mio paese") alludeva con molta probabilità alle Osservazioni di un viaggiatore inglese sopra l'Isola di Corsica scritte in Inglese sul luogo nel 1767 ed ora tradotte in Italiano (Londra 1769), che sono certamente opera del Cocchi (G. Livi, Lettere inedite di P. Paoli, in: "Arch. Stor. Italiano", 175, 1890, 268; G. Lessi, Elogio di R. Cocchi, in: "Atti dell'Imp. e Reale Acc. d. Crusca", I, 1819, 80). Composto in occasione di una "commissione politica" che il Cocchi svolse in Corsica per conto del governo inglese, questo interessante opuscolo è in gran parte una descrizione delle strutture politiche della Corsica di Pasquale Paoli, il governo "forse il più libero, dopo il nostro [chi parla è, si ricordi, un 'viaggiatore inglese'] che sia nel Mondo [...] " (Osservazioni, 10, Livi, 71-76). Poiché tutti i còrsi avevano preso parte alla lotta di liberazione, il Paoli era stato "in obbligo di dare a ciascun uomo il suo destino d'esser membro dello Stato", di creare cioè un governo popolare (Osserv., 15). Il fondamento della democrazia còrsa era la piccola proprietà agricola: "Vi ha una divisione agraria de' Territorj, non istabilita per legge, ma così di fatto sussistente. Vivono come se fossero in comune [...] " (Ibid., 36). Era proprio questa "idea di proprietà", oltre all'odio implacabile dei genovesi, che animava i còrsi e li faceva "disperati" nella lotta. Lo scopo pratico che il Cocchi perseguiva è rivelato senza ambagi alla fine dell'opuscolo: rimuovere l'editto, emanato dal governo inglese nel 1764, che proibiva a qualunque suddito inglese di commerciare con i còrsi. Tal divieto era incompatibile per i "principj di libertà". Il Cocchi riprendeva ancòra una volta il paragone con l'Inghilterra: "I Còrsi rappresentano oggidì la parte gloriosa, che noi rappresentammo al tempo della nostra rivoluzione. Sono essi infiammati dai medesimi giusti motivi, ed animati dal medesimo spirito di libertà [...] " (lbid., 39). Anglofilo dunque fino ad accettare delicati incarichi politici dal governo inglese, il Cocchi aveva composto per Horace Mann, "suo amicissimo", una Relazione della costituzione fisica, civile, ed economica della Toscana granducale che rimase inedita (Lessi, 80). Non mancano tra i suoi progetti intellettuali le stranezze: penso a quel suo tentativo, che risale forse al 1764, di epica popolare e cantabile che è il poema di Luni, presentato compiacentemente dal suo eulogista come una prova dell' "interesse ch'ei [Cocchi] prendeva a migliorare per ogni modo la sorte degli uomini" (Lessi, 76, 79).

Also of interest Gibbon's friendship with John Baker Holroyd, 1st Lord Sheffield as well as 2nd Lord Sheffield's part in transporting Michael Petrou Kokkini to Missolonghi early 1823 (greek records) confirmed by:

Lord Sheffield is arrived from Brundissium <sic> whe<re><9> he was obliged to perform Quarantine after having met with all sorts of disasters. We have sent you several papers & brochures & letters that came by the post from all parts
http://www.foxtalbot.arts.gla.ac.uk/corresp/01066.asp?target=944#cnn01066

[yanni]

To meet our April the 2nd appointment, we better bring a little order in our house:

An important question was raised some posts back, if Saint Germain, staging his AHC death in 1784 and leaving France as he did, was a traitor!

A silly question to raise for a diplomat, it really sounds vulgar when it concerns the chief of the royal secret service, as stated.

So we might as well answer it here and now:

To begin with, anybody familiar with Gibbon's own life choices, cannot but laugh at his attempt to discredit Raimondo Cocchi by referring to his constant pauverty complaints (Il se plaint à tout moment de sa pauvretè) and his lack of philosophical dignity (Il connoit peu la veritable dignitè de l'homme de lettres).

Now let's examine the matter in more detail:

Gibbon, visiting Florence late 1764, writes that Raimondo was in charge of the Uffizi gallery but dr Smollet, visiting Florence February 1765 writes that
Bianchi, [This antiquarian is now imprisoned for Life, for having robbed the Gallery and then set it on fire.] who shows the gallery, thinks the statue represents the augur Attius Navius, who cut a stone with a knife, at the command of Tarquinius Priscus.

The good italian history scholar, who provided for us the text of previous post (his name was lost copypasting, sorry), speaking so oppenly for Raimondo's anglophilia and relating it to Corsica's revolt, is certainly unaware both of Raimondo's brother Gioachino position in France as well as of Corsica's strong greek community (that followed Paoli), he therefore, as a "nationalist", condemns Raimondo for leading Paoli to a revolt that resulted to Genoa, then under french protection anyway, loosing Corsica to France.

Raimondo is obviously following his brother's orders and, as such, he is certainly not betraying France.

Is he perhaps betraying Florence, then under the austrians?

As we said, Bianchi is in charge of the Uffizi Feb 1765, Francis I dies August 18, 1765, Bianchi is imprisoned for looting the gallery and then setting it on fire, end of 1765 the dauphin of Luis XV and Marie Leszczynska also dies, her father Stanislas, King of Poland and duc of Lorraine, too, France annexes Lorraine February 1766, Corsica in 1768 and 1770 Francis I daughter, Marie Antoinette marries future Luis XVI. Following that....

(as per a Florence history site):

1773 Espulsione dei gesuiti, Raimondo Cocchi, figlio di Antonio, è nominato direttore della galleria degli Uffizi.

The next Austrian emperor, therefore, instead of accusing Raimondo for betraying his country or his trust (for removing part of the Uffizi collection) he rewards and reinstates him.

Do we forget perhaps that in 1764 Catherine purchased a major collection of 225 western European paintings, laying the foundation for today's State Hermitage Museum in St. Petersburg, Russia?

No we don't: Art should serve people, not the opposite and, as for Giuseppe Bianchi, we really don't know if he remained imprisoned for life!

Buonjorno (with a smile) bella Italia!

[yanni]

celebrating one year from our web-rebirth, wish all the bee stung sleeping angels following this thread so far, all the best and further sing for you as follows:


Some have left the cool glade, and have slept with the bee-
Arouse them, my maiden, On moorland and lea-
Go! breathe on their slumber, All softly in ear,
Thy musical number They slumbered to hear
For what can awaken An angel so soon,
Whose sleep hath been taken Beneath the cold moon,
As the spell which no slumber Of witchery may test,
The rhythmical number Which lull'd him to rest?"

[yanni]

"Montalembert"!

In previous Al Aaraaf passage, Edgar is simply calling Jean d'Anastasy a "drone" for returning to Alex July 1826 (to become a "chevalier de l'ordre Wasa", consul of Sweden and Norway).
Edgar is thus informing us that untill then (and possibly to shortly before his "Assignation") he has been more in contact with Angelica than his 1823 "d'Athanasy" Gurna host and does not know(or does not want to reveal) his next name and position. In any case his "d'Athanasy" description is of greek fighting for his national cause till then and then, without explanation, changing sides.

Yanni's "betrayal" becomes even more controversial as only few months before, spring, Missolonghi falls to the "egyptians" and Yanni's cousin, the "unknown french" engineer who commemorated Franklin, Byron, Cosziuscko, Montalembert, Ananiah etc, is killed.

This "controversy", quite imposible to interpret from a "greek" point of view", is further confirmed and increased when more members of the family are examined, It has been a major handicap for the underisgned to complete his 1821 Kokkini history research.

Having discovered in France the "center of gravity" of family and interests, we already called them "french", did we not?

As such there is no controversy whatsoever: They all obey the new Bourbon regime's orders. Paris is now "in partnership" with London and, from the Missolonghi, "Montalembert" becomes key for the continuation of our story

Missolonghi's exceptional fortification was designed by Michel Pierre Cochini (as he signed) in accordance with Montalembert's original heptagonal concept. Another Montalembert, son of the former, was France's consul in Sweden in 1826 and instrumental, we assume, to Yanni d'Anastasy's Egypt appointment same year.

But we already had ample evidence (from published research) that "Michel" and "Yanni" were of the same family anyway:

Montalembert also links "greek" Kokkini-Cochini to "french", post 1826, Cochin and the reason this particular passage was chosen is because all the above bring us closer to the solution of our 1835 murder case:

A "Montalembert+Cochin" websearch produces specific members of the "Mercer dynasty", thus, we conclude:

They all were a big, tighlty linked, family until then!

With Lazare Kokkini/ Gioachino Cocchi dying peacefully as Russia's consul, the guns of the hydrian family fleet still blazing, the lawyer-mercers cocooning in Zante for 40 plus years then, old man Anastasy and Lazare Musu, Yanni's family, both in active battle duty, the extensive family archive, including property titles, "secret service, ministerial duty" records etc-let alone papyri-stored in Zante, their "little family secret" long entrusted to their "flexible partners"....

The elements of a drama in the making, nine years to 1835.

[yanni]

with emphasis on their ----- extensive family archive... as well!

Members of the family residing longer in France, ie the parliamentarian descendents of the "confessor" of King Luis XIII-the documents the young dauphin had to sign to be pardoned for his crimes is anybody's guess-obviously had the upper hand in "family affairs" while the "italian" Cocchis, moving to Naples and France after the conquest of Florence by the Austrians, were in a disadvantage.
Thus Gioachino, the fake "Augustine Henry" Cochin and the "frontline" Saint Germain (a "wandering Jew" by title only, "monitored", as previously stated, by the well established in Paris, "Lev" married, "mercers-lawyers" friends of Voltaire)had therefore his very private reasons to state to Marie- Antoinette" his hands "were tied".
The same hierarchy is noticed in the Levant 1760-1826::The Cochinis (Caussinis etc) are positioned to the "front line", the outskirts of the "family empire", Egypt-Asia Minor while the "Cochins" stay in "safe base" Zante, allegedly planning their return to Paris when the time is "ripe" .
The first Cochin Paris reappearance is indeed 1826: They carry their philanthropic "cloak" then, their alleged daggers, true intentions and false identities left behind in Zante.
Yes, 1826 we'll keep us busy a while!

Before we proceed, we define here and now that the term "allegedly" will be ommitted from the remainder of the Announcement in order to prevent repetition, save forum space and author's patience. Aanyone in doubt can apply it reading the text as he pleases however, our heroes are "legendary" anyway, their "secret service" capabilities, indeed worth repeating, also to be avoided from now on.

In other words: As some parts of the story are the product of author's vivid imagination, any reference to real people is definitely, surely and beyond anydoubt whatsoever truly and purely coincidental!

Also: The term "cocooning" previously may read wrong: None of the heroes of this story are "monsters", they all are normal people who, because of conditions beyond their control, behaved as they did or as anybody else would have done in their position. The term was meant as "growing up in a (barely, in comparison to today) safe environment".

[yanni]

Readers are hereby advised that:

-By his letter of December the 12th, 2006 to "concerend authorities" authorship of the present has been established.

-A proforma proposal (a kind of "open letter of intent") for joint publication is presently under consideration referring to the last chapters of the book titled "Purple History". As such, from now on and until this consideration is concluded, posts to follow, if any, will only be referring to pre 1827 events, addressing pending questions and further clarifying certain topics of specific interest.

-Author expresses his thanks to his older readers and his compliments to the, as of late, many newcomers as well. These last are kindly advised to read through the published text carefully to "catch up" if they will, with the story's development hopefully to take place soon herein or perhaps later in real print.

-Author thanks persons of authority and relatives who have communicated with him, by answering his letters or not: In either case they have assisted him for conclusions reached.

Season's Greetings & Happy New Year to all!

[yanni]

dedicated in admiration to french egyptologists (Mme D.V. ("dit" ou pas), and her coleaque Mme C.Z. at L.L) with compliments.

1826:July in Alex the first-ever armenian chevalier de l'ordre Wasa and consul of Sweden. His first "Cataloque General de la Collection" is published by his "serviteur & amis" P.Lavison.


....the egyptian department of the Louvre cr&#233;&#233; le 15 mai 1826 par ordonnance royale de Charles X. Il fit de Jean-Fran&#231;ois Champollion, qui venait d'acqu&#233;rir la collection du consul anglais Salt (4 000 pi&#232;ces), le conservateur de ce qu'on appelait alors le Mus&#233;e &#233;gyptien.


Giovanni d'Anastasi (1780-1860)
Greek diplomat and collector
He was born in Egypt as the son of a Greek merchant who made a fortune as surveyor to Napoleon’s army. As one of Egypt’s leading tradesmen, Anastasi also served as Swedish-Norwegian Consul-General, and like his colleagues he started collecting antiquities. His first collection was acquired for the Leiden Museum in 1828, and contained the three statues of Maya and Meryt and other masterpieces from Saqqara. A second collection went to the British Museum in 1839, the remainder was auctioned in Paris in 1857.
http://www.let.leidenuniv.nl/saqqara/Exploration/Personal_Profiles.html

Jean Anastasi, an Armenian merchant from Damascus, served as Swedish Consul General in Egypt from 1828 to 1857.
http://www.agbu.org/agbunews/display.asp?A_ID=41

Our story begins with Giovanni d'Anastasi, collector of Egyptian antiquities extraordinaires. A successful merchant who saw the advantage of cashing in on Europe's taste in Egyptian antiquities, Anastasi employed several agents to gather antiquities for him, including one Piccinini who was working in Girga (Thinis) in 1828. Anastasi's full collections cut across boundaries of genre and time,but they were an amalgamation of smaller collections. He dispersed his massive collections in four installments: One of these was in 1826........
(Abracadabra, Isaac and Jacob Reviewed by John Gee "The book of Moses")

[yanni]

Having recognised and already commented the fact that the Rite of Mizraim originated 1782 in Zante, the undersigned accepts that the devil of "personal involvement" was and is ever present, personal beliefs, emotions, "gut feelings" fully contradicting, seemingly objective, "facts". It did not fit together, it did not all make sense for a long time now.

This "personal" element, making no science absolut, is at its best in the science of "papyrology": Fitting together old fragments and then interpreting the barely readable "document" and its hieroglyphics truly has a high margin of error, excusable, if and when sincere, in such science.

Promoting religious geopolitical agendas however is both inexcusable and punishable, a "scientific" crime and a hypocritic idiocy, particularly when commited by those few who bash, with their "democratic" banners and such "biblical authorship", other societies for their parallel backwardness and unparallel sincerity.

If "Abraxas" followed by "Walsamos" was enough to raise some eyebrows, then D'Anastasy=Cochin= Caussin=Caussiny "de Valbelle" (dit ou pas)=De Perceval=Saint Germain obviously makes the case important enough to be placed under the microscope and, for eyptologists (and descendants alike) caught with the hand in the jar, so to speak, "silence" could, can and will not be an option!

The next cherry to be added therefore to our 1826 "tourte extraordinaire", also dedicated to them in admiration, now reads as follows:

A Cochini Andrianna was born that year "fille de Demetrio-Giacomo de Dion. Cochini, noble de Zante et Anna, fille de Giorgio Balsamo, noble de Zante". Unlike next children of the couple (1828-1837), Andrianna's day of birth is not recorded meaning she was not born in Zante.

Marking the beginnining of the 1835 "event" and relative family "divide"-too little too late-1826 is an important year and, as such, it will be given a "royal" treatment next!

BTW: Seasonal wishes were previously expressed to "scholarly" readers propably going on extended leave soon. Author "Yanni the greek" will continue posting "pre 1827" topics for his other readers to year's end.

[yanni]

By "initiative" of a three member Zante commitee (Romas, Stefanou and Dragonas), infant "Modern Greece" has aalready applied, in 1825, for british protection.

January
the 1st, NewYear, Michel Pierre Cochini writes to Dragona from Missolonghi that their days are numbered and pleads for the protection, granted to his family- then in Zante for their safety(wife Maria with three infants, two sons, one daughter)-to be continued "afterwards".

The greek fleet supplying Missolonghi now faces the egyptians. Instead of confronting them, Miaoulis attempts to destroy the greek ships by fire, his sailors disobey orders saving the ships, nevertheless they all retreat on the 25th abandoning the town to the egyptian sea blockade-the turkish siege till then only by land- and bombardement. Ibrahim proposes honourable surrender to the fort's guard.

April .
Czar Alexandre signs Wellington's protocol securing Russia's neutrality, the 4th.
Missolonghi falls the 10th.
Ioannis Anastasiou is still on his diplomatic mission to Montenegro. Champollion meets him there and then begins his journey back to Paris (arrives October-November). On the 20th Ioannis Anast.Cochini is back in Hydra.

May
Maria from Zante, the 4th, in her petition to the provisional greek government, pleads for assistance: She has no news of her husband's fate, her children are starving
In Paris Count Capodistria witnesses the inauguation of the egyptian department of the Louvre créé le 15 mai 1826 par ordonnance royale de Charles X.

June
In Zante, the 6th, Nicollo Messala, trustee-guardian of the corresponding part of late(1807) count Nic.Salomon's estate, transfers title and money to the hires, the late count's "love" children, brothers Dimitrio and Dionisio Salomon. One of the two legal sons, Roberto, is already in possession of the rest of said estate, the other, Ioannis Leontarakis (whose mother married count Niccolo while he was in his last days) being refused his rightfull inheritance part. Curiously enough, N.Messala, son of the late noble Stefano (1750-1823, consul of France), has also passed away in 1821. (This minor detail has escaped the attention of scholarls who have studied and published the Salomon vs Leontarakis legal process of 1832-1837).

Il 16 giugno 1826 Jean Francois rivide Angelica (ch'egli chiamava col nome arabo di Zelmire) a Pisa, per la Luminaria di San Ranieri, poi per l'ultima vo lta a Livorno nel settembre dello stesso anno....Lo Champollion risiedeva a Montenero.

July
In Alex the first-ever armenian becomes chevalier de l'ordre Wasa, consul of Sweden. The first "Cataloque General de la Collection" published by his "serviteur & amis" P.Lavison.
Yanni's uncle, hugenot merchant James La Fontaine, is buried in Smyrne, the 3rd of the month. Yanni's brother, Lazaro Musiu, is active at the time with Const.Canaris under admiral Nic.Androutso in Samos.
Charles-Etienne Bonfort, with his father (Yanni's uncle) are in command of two Cochini vessels supplying the egyptian fleet. One vessel is confiscated, they go bankrupt, father dies in Alex where:
..i francesi costruiscono un arsenale per la marina militare nei cui reparti lavoreranno più di quattromila operai e il cui personale direttivo sarà quasi tutto italiano.

September
The greek fleet returns the 4th of September to Hydra
Maria pleads from Aegina, September the 9th: She has been moved about the Ionian isles starving, she writes and asks assistance for herself and her daughter. Her sons, Petros and Stylianos "Cochino" have been sent, in the meantime, to brit-controlled Bornova, Smyrne, to the care, propably, of J. Lafontain's "Cochine" widow, daughter of Lazare Cochini.

For his forthcoming book on Napoleon Walter Scott visited London, was received with great honour, breakfasted with KingGeorge IV and gave sittings to painters. In Paris he met King Charles X and other famous people and saw the opera based on Ivanhoe. All this uplifted Sir Walter and encouraged him to press on with his herculean task.

October Lazaro Musiou is imprisoned in Malta(to June 1827) by the brits.

Capodistria from Geneva writes his report to the Tzar in November, the first american made frigate arrives December to be placed under "greek admiral general", his exclellency Lord Cochran and his french cook (Napoleon's).

In same year:

-Cochini Andrianna, daughter of a Dimitri Jaques Denis Cochin+Balsamo, is born as per previous post.

-In Paris The Mother Lodge of the Philosophie Scottish Rite, ceased its labors in 1826. In 1806 Thory enriched it with...most valuable of works formerly belonging to the Library of the Philalethes, Lodge of the Amis Reunis..... upwards of 2000 volumes -- to the Grand Lodge of Scotland in 1849 ..

-also in Paris, propably at year's end, a philantropist Jean Denis Cochin makes his first- web-appearance:
En 1826, rue de Gobelins, il assemble quelques petits enfants de 2 à 6 ans, Il ouvre la première salle d'asile dans deux chambres. Elle est “née d’une pensée de charité religieuse, après appréciation de notre état social” écrit-il. Il y dirige lui-même les enfants et imagine une méthode. Il enseigne à ceux qui veulent être maîtres.

In New York: Morgan.....William is murdered after publishing his "Illustrations of Masonry" in 1826 in which he purported to reveal the ritual and degrees of American Freemasonry and he stated that he would very soon be revealing additional material.At this time New York Governor DeWitt Clinton was the leader of the Columbian Lodge of the Illuminati and was no doubt frightened or intimidated about the potential exposure.....

[jon1jt]

Sonnet to Zante:
Fair isle, that from the fairest of all flowers,
Thy gentlest of all gentle names dost take!
How many memories of what radiant hours
At sight of thee and thine at once awake!
How many scenes of what departed bliss!
How many thoughts of what entombed hopes!
How many visions of a maiden that is
No more- no more upon thy verdant slopes!
No more! alas, that magical sad sound
Transforming all! Thy charms shall please no more-
Thy memory no more! Accursed ground
Henceforth I hold thy flower-enameled shore,
O hyacinthine isle! O purple Zante!
"Isola d'oro! Fior di Levante!"


A series of coincidences brought about the decoding first of the Sonnet and, five years later, of Al Aaraaf.
Inbetween following "classic" riddles, all interrelated and very relevant, were encounterd and finally solved:

D'Anastasy, the "armenian" alchemy papyri collector, consul(1826-?) of Sweden and Norway to Egypt
Cagliostro -Balsamo and "his" Rite of Mizraim
Comte de San Germain, minister of war of Luis XV and XVI (1771-1779)
The designer of the great seal of the USA, a friend and advisor of Ben.Franklin.
The affair of the queen's necklace (1784-1785) that brought about the french revolution (1789-1790)
The Stuart jewels "discovered" by Walter Scott.

A few words on the poems themselves:
Both refer to Zante* and "tell" on Edgar's younger and romantic years that ended some years before the Sonnet was written.
Hence the difference in style: Aaraaf written propably 1826-28 , secretive and elaborated, lengthy, almost epic, a product of the mind, the Sonnet, written in a day, end of 1836, short and sentimental, a product of a troubled yet sincere soul mourning a death that deeply affected him.
The Sonnet refers indeed to the death of young woman, wife of a man Poe had to contact during his diplomatic mission to the Levant early 1827. They greatly impressed Poe and hence, when he learned of the 1835 murder that included both her and other members of the man's family, his world totally collapsed.

Will be answering posts by members who have studied Edgar's life and poetry and raise specific questions on the two poems only.
Will not be revealing details or solutions of said riddles: A book will hopefully be published once a competent (and willing and daring) editor-publisher is found and this information will onlt be revealed there.


*After the fall of Venice to the french, a succesion of protectors ruled the island of Zante (jacobine french, russians allies of the Orttomans then, imperial napoleonic french and finally english 1809). Zante joined Modern Greece in 1864.
Greece was liberated after four centuries of Ottoman occupation with the war for independence 1821-1827.


this thread smells of DaVinci Code! :lol:

[yanni]

A "voice in the wilderness" with his smell intact? No way:

Brown's fairy tale has nothing in common with the Announcement.

There is no "rhetoric exaltation" either.

Thanks anyway and my regards to the "de Wits"!

[jon1jt]

A "voice in the wilderness" with his smell intact? No way:

Brown's fairy tale has nothing in common with the Announcement.

There is no "rhetoric exaltation" either.

Thanks anyway and my regards to the "de Wits"!

de who? :D

[yanni]

The DeWitt-Clintons of my previous post above, that's who.

[yanni]

Whereas the older (pre 1750, Chio+Zante) family blazon depicts an eagle sitting on a castle, its single head turned eastwards, their later Zante(post 1760)-Hydra(1821) symbols are as follows:

The Zante blazon, today displayed center (in a series of other blazons) at the Dion.Salomon Museum, depicts a single snake, its body wound around a blooming Asclepius staff (a tree) its head turned towards the tree blossom: No, it's not the sign of a "blossoming" period of a doctor's history but the biblical serpent -tree of gnosis-apple combination:
The Zante Cochins (or maybe their flexible friends and associates who, with Cochin "assistance", came to power, nobility and fortune after 1835, build much later the Museum and exposed thus their "benefactors") are declaring their cabbalistic philosophy and their hate for Rome using Antonio Cocchi as their next (like they did with Gioachino previously) "frontman".On the other hand Hydra's purple-blue revolutionary flag of Lazaro Musiu, Yanni d'Anastasy's brother, today centrally exhibited at the Maritime Museum of Piraeus, is as follows:

At its center a heavy purple cross is standing on an upturned, rather weak, yellow "croissant", its two points touching the ground, the back curve supporting the cross ready to give in to its weight. To the right of the cross a black anchor upside down, also footed on the croissant, indicating a fleet on the move. A single green snake is wound around the anchors stem, its head reaching over the anchor to a bird, propably a pigeon, feeding the snake or v.v. To the right of anchor+snake duo, the word ΕΛΕΥΘΕΡΙΑ (Freedom...).
To the left of the cross a greenish-reddish lance, also footed on the croissant, point up, to its left the words "Η ΘΑΝΑΤΟΣ" (...or Death)

Whereas the anchor-snake flag duo seems to be a development of the Zante symbol, the cross at the flag center as well as the snake surpassing the top of the anchor (previous tree) to find its feed from the bird (commerce/sailing ship instead of the apple, the cross "caught" inbetween "freedom" or "death") indicates a difference in policy and philosophy between the two families. .

This difference becomes obvious when studying the 1784-1821 history of the two:

The "mercer" Cochins, their Zante presence barely noticeable in pre 1800 local records, are resting on their nobility laurels and are associating with their "Lev-Salomon-Balsamo" friends. They, alltogether, become invvollved in local politics from the time the jacobin-french take control of Zante (1797) and, even when "imperial" France occupies the island till 1809, they maintain their alliance to the brit agents and are openly "probrit" thereafter.
Hiding behind An.Martinengo, Zante's dictator (1797-1809), this strange alliance (jacobins, "levs", "noble" Cochins etc) really control the island until the british take over.

The hydrian sailors Cochini, already described herein along with relevant 1770-1791 Hydra history, fly the russian flag (1777 to 1821), supply Napoleon's troops dduring the Egypt campaign and, with their other local and french (Bonforts) captains-relatives, also carry wheat from the Black Sea and Egypt to France. They are obviously in friendly terms with Napoleon (as confirmed by Leiden) not with the hugenot french however:
Russian consul Anastasy Cochini, joining the russian fleet in 1807, confiscates the olive oil cargo of hugenot french consul in Athens Hilarion Couturier and is then persecuted by him and the ottoman admiral (The ottomans become allies of the brits after 1807).

Lazarus's Ypapanti church further reveals, if not their true faith, their new commitment to the eastern christian religion, their belief they are "here to stay", their dissapointment with their previous "french experience".

Also worth to mention the use they make of their name: The Cochins name themselves Cochini in 1750-1837 Zante, the hydrians use the same till 1821 and then hide behind their nicknames (a local custom-practice) "Lazarou", "Orlof", "Musiu", Colochini (Nicolo-Cochini), Malochini(Manolo Cochini), Colmaniote (Nicolo from Mani) etc.

Another difference is in their wealth: The Cochini are described as very wealthy(until they spend all wealth for the greek cause, 1821-1827), the Cochins are not.

Whereas in France the "italians" were under french control, as mentioned, in the Levant the inverse is noticed. Appearing as one family, using Zante as their headquarters and entry-departure port (eschelle-scala) to and from the Adriatic and Hydra-Petsai (and Ipsera) as their strongholds in the Aegean, bases of their revolts against the ottomans, the Zante names (Cochins) are however not to be found anywhere in the Hydra archives or other references.

It is therefore obvious that from 1784 to 1826 the hydrians have the upper hand. Only when the Couturier vs Cochini (1807-1818) files at the french Ministry of Justice are examined it will be made clear if their 1821 revolt was truly "nationalistic" and not the product of an "amicable financial settlement" after the resurrection of their royal Bourbon friends.

[yanni]

The following are worth investigating re E.A.Poe's-Cochini relations before his eastern trip as well as the origins of Guillelmo Cochini, Mehmet Ali's agent in Zante in 1821.
It is fairly obvious anyhow that "Corzine" originates from Cochini=Caussiny etc and that they were jesuits on arrival. The date of the Caussin Manor transfer deed by William Caussin is missing from the web: It might reveal the american origins of Guillelmo.

DESCRIPTION: This folder [101 S6-16] consists of land documents (1728-1905) pertaining to St. Thomas Manor and the surrounding vicinity. Items include the following: Certificate (1728/9) of sale for Mankins Adventure; Indenture (1730) between Stephen Mankins and Peter Attwood, S.J.; Map (1649) of addition or resurvey of Caussin's Manor; Certificate of survey for Nicholas Caussin's land; Copy of remarks (1905) with Caussin's maps; Plat of south line and of Caussin's Manor; Extract from William Caussin's deed to Upgate Reeves; Remarks (1747) on the land of Upgate Reeves and the part of it sold by Thomas Reeves to Richard Molyneux, S.J.; Certificate (1762) concerns Caussin's Manor; Plat of Upgate Reeves land; Plat of land sold by Thomas Reeves to Fr. Molyneux (1748); Indenture (1815) between Thomas Courtney Reeves and Francis Neale, S.J.; Deed (1905) from Patrick F. Healy, S.J., to the Corporation of Roman Catholic Clergymen.

The Suppression of the Society altered but little the status of the Jesuits in Maryland. As they were the only priests in the mission, they still remained at their posts, the nine English members, until death, all continuing to labor under Father John Lewis who after the Suppression had received the powers of vicar-general from Bishop Calloner of the London District. Only two of them survived until the restoration of the Society--Robert Molyneux and John Bolton. Many of those who were abroad, labouring in England or studying in Belgium, returned to work in the mission. As a corporate body, they still retained the properties from which they derived support for their religious ministrations. As their numbers decreased, some of the missions were abandoned, or served for a time by other priests, but maintained by the revenues of the Jesuits properties even after the Restoration of the Society. Though these properties were regarded as reverting to it through its former members organized as the Corporation of Roman Catholic clergymen, a yearly allowance from the revenues made over to Archbishop Carroll became during Bishop Maréchal's administration (1817-34) the basis of a claim for such a payment in perpetuity and the dispute thus occasioned was not settled until 1838 under Archbishop Eccleston.

Re: John Corzine b. 1873 NC to Union Co IL
Posted by: Russell Earl Corzine Date: August 19, 2000 at 18:08:01
In Reply to: Re: John Corzine b. 1873 NC to Union Co IL by GARY LE ANN CORZINE of 270

John Corzine was bondsman for Siles Corzine ans Jean Bluster, who married in 1810 in Cabarrus Co NC. Their son William Riley Corzine moved with his family of many to Union Co. IL in the 1820's. Was John, Silas' Father? John Cursine, born about 1710 was the father of John, Nicholas, and George Corzine, Born in the 1730's in Cecil Co. MD, Wife Deborah. John & she later in Winchester VA in 1754, sometimes called Cozine then. After 1757, three boys etc in NC, Rowan Co & etc. Name usually misspelled. I believe Primogenitor of family in America was Nicholas Causin arrived MD colony by 1637. Married widow of John Cockshott, Jane, was English. Nicholas son of Nicholas Caussin, in Jesuit order, born 1582 France. In French Biography printed mid 1800's. Ignatius, Son of Nicholas, Signed his name Cursine in 1660's Maryland (and many other ways.)

[jon1jt]

i'm curious, what does your position add to the prevailing literature? and where are your footnotes?

From a pure research standpoint, troubling is that you make such broad-sweeping and crude statements throughout to substantiate claims, such as this one:

"The difference becomes obvious when studying the 1784-1821 history of the two"

Obvious? Whose history? C'mon.

I also see little or no conceptualization of terms, and there's no research design, just specious interpretation.

[yanni]

First define "prevailing", next "literature", then the combination of the two please.

Bibliography: It will be annexed on conclusion .

[yanni]

Finding "Caussin's manor" in such select neighborhood was both inspiring and challenging, thus:

30/4/1784 Saint Germain's (=A.H.Cochin=Gioachino Cocchi) funeral with 54 years of age, is witnessed by his cousins Jean Phillipe Hippolite Lambert, coseiller du roi et Hery Cochin, avocat.

Jaques Denis Cochin's "Spiritual Writings", a posthumous work published by his brother (Paris, 1784). Cochin is noted especially for his philanthropy. The needs of his own parish suggested the foundation of a hospital. The idea, conceived in 1780, resulted in the completion of a building 1784 of which The Sisters of Charity took charge.

On June 23, 1784 the Bavarian Elector, Karl Theodor, published an edict forbidding his subjects to be members of secret or unauthorized associations.

Carroll, John 1735 - 1815:
A member of the Jesuit order who was born in Maryland, founded Georgetown College, and became the first archbishop of Baltimore in 1808.
Georgetown University records:

Carroll, John - Correspondence (Box: 23 Fold: 11)
ALS (transcript) from John Carroll to Cardinal Leonardo Antonelli, dated 3/1/1785. ALS (transcript in hand of Shea) from Rev. Robert Molyneux to Carroll, dated 3/28/1785. 1 ALS (transcript in hand of Shea) from Carroll to Rev. Charles Whelan, dated 4/16/1785.
(Antonelli:In addition to the responsible posts already mentioned, he filled those of grand penitentiary, prefect of the Signature of Justice and of the Congregation of the Index, and pro-secretary of Briefs. He assisted in the preparation of the Concordat, and was present at the election of Pope Pius VII in 1800, whom he later accompanied to Paris in 1804.As such Antonelli's decision saved later on Cagliostro from execution)

A general Convent of Masons (Strict Observance) in France and abroad was convoked by the secret committee for February 15, 1785. Savalette de Langes was elected president.

Carroll, John - Correspondence (Box: 23 Fold:12)

1 ALS to John Carroll from the Sacred Congregation of di Propaganda Fide, dated 7/23/1785. 1 AL from Carroll to Rev. Francis Neale, dated 6/17/1785. 1 AL (transcript) from Carroll to Neale, dated 6/17/1785.

(Ben.Franklin leaves Passy July 1785)

Carroll, John - Correspondence (Box: 23 Fold: 13)

1 ALS from John Carroll to Rev. John Causse, dated 8/16/1785

In (crude) conclusion: John "Causse", obviously a Cochin-Caussin, justifies the ommission of the date of the deed of tranfer of the Upgate Reeves property to Maryland authorities!!!.

Furthermore:

As Jean d'Anastasy, papyri collector, was himself a "Caussin", the family link to the jesuit order (at the time persecuted in Europe but finding its way in USA) evidently explains E.A.Poe's "eastern expedition" original purpose making his "Quaker" personality a cover.
Edgar's irish origins as well as his relations to Carey (Carey and Lea, publishers)......
Carey, Mathew 1760 - 1839:Philadelphia publisher, writer, and promoter of the "American System".
Born in Dublin, Ireland and became an anti-British newspaper editor there. Fled to the U.S. where he settled in Philadelphia, founded the Pennsylvania Herald in 1785, and the Columbian Magazine in 1786. He became a very prominent publisher, and a well-known advocate of the "American System", of federally-backed internal improvements and protective tariffs on manufactured goods, to build up the U.S. as a manufacturing nation with a strong internal commerce. In late 1814, at the low point for the U.S., of the War of 1812, he published the Olive Branch, aimed at stiffening American resolve, and reconciling the Federalists who had mostly opposed it, and the Republicans (Jeffersonians) who had prosecuted the war (though they obstructed earlier defensive measures). The book was praised by Thomas Jefferson, and quoted by Robert Y. Hayne (in an attack on the Federalists) in his famous Senate debate with Daniel Webster.
.....places Edgar center among the "Jesuit" side and in direct opposition to...

Clinton, De Witt (Mar. 2, 1769 - Feb. 11, 1828):
Governor of New York State 1817-1822 and 1824-27. mayor of New York City 1803-7, 1809-10 and 1811-14, candidate for president in 1812, founder and one of the first presidents of the Literary and Philosophical Society in New York. Van Buren and Clinton both supported Andrew Jackson

Yes, definitely, the subject did not belong to the poetry forum and propably not to "General Literature" either, so why don't you (administrator) just totally remove it?

BTW As sole judges of your "prevailing literature" thing, viewers have already rated this thread accordingly!

[ShoutGrace]

and there's no research design, just specious interpretation.

It's not interpretation, it's decoding. :banana: :banana:

[yanni]

Greek words and phrases may have a different interpretation than what your dictionaries tell you, viewer:

"Hypocrisis", etymologicaly, means judgement (applause or rejection) from "below":

Artists (actors=ethopoioi (grk)=moral makers) taking part in theatrical performances were under such criticism by the spectators and as such, originaly, a "hypocrite" was the spectator not the actor.

"Idiocy", on the other hand, originaly meant the particular characteristics of a person or a group of persons. Hence "idiom" meaning the (different) language such person or group speak, often "barbaric" (bar-bar=blah-blah) ie difficult to understand.

As such, the phrase "Hypocritical idiocy" should mean the distance the spectators-judges decide to create between themselves and the idiotic (barbaric etc) artist unable to recreate and transmit "ethos".
Same thing for an author and his readers or the people of a society and their leaders.
When the actor becomes himself the "hypocrite", as the term has developed today, his "idiocy" is "hypocriticized" by noone in particular thus a floppy a theatrical performance is often applauded by the idiotic crowds.

Hence the reluctance of our "outspoken hypocrites" to explain that "literature", originating from latin liTTeratura, always meant the vehicle conveying garbage (animal dung etc) to feed the crowds thus extracting their applause, thus "prevailing".

There have never been any "literary" claims for this Announcement, the subjects of interest where defined from the beginning and obviously this has been an "instant online research" kind of thing, "original" in as much as the subject is important historicaly and the "author" constrained by his own limitations and his bias (blood relations) towards his "heroes".

[yanni]

Hypercritical to the rare hypocrite disassociating himself from one of the fathers of his nation, here comes via the web Benjamin Franklin, in friendly terms as seen with the printers-artists Cochins, to document his friendship with the protestant "Causses" also:

"THE WAY TO WEALTH, OR, POOR RICHARD IMPROVED; LA SCIENCE.....
Paris: printed for A.A. Renouard (printed by P. Causse, Dijon), 1795. 12mo. (4), 181, (5) pp. Engraved frontispiece portrait. First edition thus. Some copies include a separately paginated 28-page section "Observations sur les Sauvages du Nord de l'Amerique" (OCLC locates about equal numbers, with and without). Sabin 25596: "Beautifully printed. The letters to Franklin above mentioned are private, and addressed to Madame **, dated Passy, 1778 and 1779"

Also see http://www.whrb.org/pg/MayJun2003.html re Hummels compositions-performances:
1820: Fantasy for Viola and Orchestra, Op. 94; Causse, Causse, Soloists of Montepellier-Moscow (EMI)

as well as http://www.causse.de/hist/personen.html documenting the french (Montpelier, Negrepelisse, Lanquedoc) origins of the "Causse" family, theology
experts http://www.protestants.org/textes/famille/parentalite-causse.htm
recognising their southeastern origins at
http://perso.orange.fr/mariefb/fabien/fabien.htm

The question is therefore not on the identity of Georgetown, Maryland Rev John Causse as such but on his choice to use the protestant family name while serving in a jesuit order "abroad" in 1784-5!

Considering the fact that 1782 the Rite of Mizraim was the "haute couture" product of "nation building" design by Rev Causse's "eastern" family (also known as "parenti" in hermetic circles) and their friends and distinguished employees ("Walsamos" and his monumental attempt to "biblical immortality"!) and, as such design can be seen today on the Great Seal, the answer should be a "no brainer" even to the remaining few "Sauvages du Nord de l'Amerique", "hypers" and "hypos" alike!

So stay the course viewer and let footnotes to footmen!

[jon1jt]

First define "prevailing", next "literature", then the combination of the two please.

Bibliography: It will be annexed on conclusion .



Prevailing literature consists of a body of scholarly research established by a community of thinkers, which has come to be recognized as "authoritive" against which all work is measured for reliability and verifiability, and consistently referred to as such.

I see absolutely nothing here of the sort.

Grace: "decoding"? lol:

[yanni]

Constitution Française, présentée au roi par l'assemblée nationale, le 3 septembre 1791. Dijon, imprimerie de P. Causse,
[FRENCH REVOLUTION]
Sm. 8vo. [2]ff. 83pp. Original paper wrappers, uncut (backed with later paper). 1791

Published in the same year as the édition originale. The seven sections of the Constitution are preceded by the declaration of the rights of man, and the work ends with the moving letter sent by Louis XVI on 13 September giving his reasons for accepting the revolutionary constitution, together with his promise that he would appear on the 14th before the Assemblée Nationale to accept it formally.

[yanni]

The official site of the french "National Press" insist that by 1792 L'Imprimerie royale, devenue Imprimerie du Louvre en 1790 puis Imprimerie nationale exécutive, quitte le Louvre où elle était installée depuis 1640. http://www.imprimerienationale.fr/impnat.asp?Page=groupe59&IdNav=groupe5

Their timeline, immediately after, reads as follows:

1795 Les deux imprimeries officielles sont regroupées à l'Hôtel de Penthièvre sous le vocable L'Imprimerie de la République.
1809 L’Imprimerie impériale s’installe à l’Hôtel de Rohan.
Commencent à paraître les 23 volumes de la Description de l'Egypte.
1813 Décret prévoyant la formation des compositeurs orientalistes.

The following publications however contradict their 1792 date of moving away from Louvre :

France. Convention nationale. Décret de la Convention nationale, du 6 mars 1793 … qui approuve les mesures prises par les commissaires nationaux Polverel & Santhonax dans la colonie de Saint-Domingue. Paris, Imprimerie nationale Exécutive du Louvre, 1793. 2 p. ; 25 cm.
Call Number: 1793 France 7

France. Convention nationale. Décret de la Convention nationale … portant que les tabacs fabriqués & les tafias en entrepôt dans les ports, seront admis dans circulation intérieure, en payant les droits d’entrée. Paris, Imprimerie Nationale exécutive du Louvre, 1793. 2 p. ; 25 cm.
Call Number: 1793 France 3

In any case, the P.Causse Dijon press 1791 publication of the Constitution Française, présentée au roi par l'assemblée nationale, le 3 septembre 1791 certainly places the "Causses" to the top of the- publishers at least- revolutionary hierarchy.

In their same Dijon press they next publish

France. Convention nationale. Decret de la Convention nationale, du quatrieme jour de germinal, l’an second … [i.e. 24 mars 1794], qui prescrit les formalités à observer de la part des militaires qui réclament une indemnité pour leurs équipages de guerre pris par l’ennemi. Dijon, P. Causse [1794?] 4 p., 25 cm. Call Number: 1794 Fr 1

All above reconfirm conclusions drawn from our previous "Blazons" post and further lead us to interpret the Georgetown-John Caroll-Rev. John Causse 8/16/1785 1784 correspondence as follows:

Rev John Causse, a hugenot priest, did not belong to the Jesuit order of Rev.John Caroll. The fact they did correspond nevertheless, at such critical times, is most indicatory of their "true dogma"-their common "national" interest-whereas the unknown date of/and transfer itself of the Upgate Reeves property are certainly consequent to their subject of correspondence, the "Jacob Lange masonic files discovery" and the consequet "dogmatic" implications and what to do about "it all"....

As from this side we have no further interest on the matter (the USA-Greece IOU conclusion already long drawn thanks to Edgar), we leave relevant research to our american friends, philosophes, scholars and authorities alike, to return to the Causses (the tone on e) of Hydra, first greek revolutionary admirals.

[yanni]

Rev John Causse, his "Caussin" cousins and their "Caussin Manor", further reveal to us yet another "greek part" of the Cochini history and oblige us both to continue our Odyssey in this sea of family mysteries and to also break our previous limit of not going beyond 1827 at this stage:

The well known "Κιοσσέ-Σαχίνη" (Sahin=fast, turkish) family is said (ΗΛΙΟΣ Εγκυκλοπαίδεια) to have an Antonio Kiosse (=Causse), 1730(approx) to 1771 as head. His son Dimitrio(1759-1808), member of Hydra's committee of elders (προεστοί), was arrested by the Ottomans in 1808 along with his three sons, first born Antonio, Dimitri and Giorgio. Of the four only Giorgio (1789-1864) remained on record thereafter:

Giorgio, as the story goes, learned italian and french while attending school at Hydra and Corfu. He was resting in Sicily however when the 1821 independence struggle began, a struggle he immediately joined bringing his own fighting ship along: "Miltiades".Participating in all naval actions thereafter, Giorgio was next appointed captain of the "national frigate Hydra"-made in USA-and by 1829 he was put in charge of the greek fleet of the Aegean Sea based in Syros island, was next appointed second admiral in 1833 and "aid de camps" of King Otto of Greece later on etc.

Some minor details of George Causse cv are ommited by the good Encyclopedia:

In 1825 he was appointed war minister of the provisional greek government along with Tsamados and Santarosa. He was still honouring the "russian" flag of the family fleet then while Greece was already in a civil war.
In 1831, 16th July, at the Poros central base of the greek fleet, admiral Giorgio Causse revolted, along side Miaoulis and Mavrogordatos, against governor Capodistria-shortly before Capodistira's murder later on in the year. The action taken against them on the 23rd by russian admiral Ricord and commanders Lyons(brit) and Lalande(french), supposedly protecting the greek Governor and Nation then, was not sufficient to prevent the destruction of the greek fleet, including one american made frigate, by the revolutionaries who set afire all greek ships anchored there.
As later reported by captain Valiant of the "Grenadier", greek captain Lazaros "Orlov"-a Cochin, possibly the same as "Musiu", Yanni's brother-of one of two greek briggs under Ricord, "arrogantly" insisted they should take immediate action and finish, once and for all, with Miaoulis. That's how action began but evidently not "decisive" enough.

The family differences that first appeared in 1826 (when the "Constitution" having left the States October 29, 1824 under the command of Captain Thomas Macdonough, was still stationed "west" of the action, in Italy waiting new orders) become evident in 1831.

They'll climax in Zante, under british rule in 1835, while the rest of Modern Greece is then "free" under "wise" King Otto, his mentor-tutor Mr Lyons, their "aide de camp M.George Causse" etc etc...

[jon1jt]

dude, you need to chill out a little. what's the point of all this?---you can't come up with an identifiable research design. it's mostly arbitrary interpretation.

[ShoutGrace]

Grace: "decoding"? lol:


But isn't it most obvious? :D It's an announcement! As if decoding of this caliber actually needed any announcement. ;)

[jon1jt]

But isn't it most obvious? :D It's an announcement! As if decoding of this caliber actually needed any announcement. ;)


i'm not kidding, this is the most bizarre thread i have ever seen! who is this dude anyway? i am familiar with yanni the Greek musician - at least his music makes sense to me! no offense, but this stuff, what the...?

[yanni]

When the Causses, top jacobin printers, are placed alongside the jacobin "Saint Jacques" Cochin dynasty with their Zante cabalistic blazon, then their "conservative roman catholic-royalist" image, adopted later on (post 1835) by the Cochin family, looses its lustre.

Examining next the orientalists de Perceval we note that J.J.Antoine Caussin de Perceval (ex keeper of manuscripts collection of Luis XVI at the royal library ) is functioning by 1806 as "Professeur au College de France and ...entra en 1809 &#224; l'Institut (Acad&#233;mie des inscriptions) whereas his son Armand Pierre ....en 1814, il se rend &#224; Constantinople en tant qu'&#233;l&#232;ve interpr&#232;te...

They are however not the only Percevals serving Napoleon's regime:
A third "Perceval" appears in 1813 serving directly under a war hardened general Mortier, Marshal of the Empire then, as one of his four "war commisioners first class".
http://www.napoleon-series.org/military/organization/frenchguard/sthilaire/c_sthilaire13c.html

His full identity is not given in this site and was also not found in any other either but, as he is essential for the succesfull conclusion of this story, we note thhe following:

As previously stated, all Hydra records pointers (from relevant published study) lead to the conclusion that the hydrian "Cochini" (now including the Kiosses-Causses as well) are the same family as the Caussin de Percevals:
Reexamining this study we find Anastasy Cochini's presence (1797-1833) in Hydra's archive to be suddenly interrupted in 1812 whereas by 1816 he is declared dead by his two sons, Yanni and Lazarus. He reappears on local records however as Anastasy "Orlov" in 1822.

More "pointers" of published study, including Bouboulina's visit to Constantinople in 1815 as well as the military mobilisation of the family thereafter lead to the conclusion that "greek" Anastasy IS the french war commissioner.

Worth noting that one of Anastasy Perceval's fellow-commissioners was De LaNeuville, a familiar name in the last British-American war ending 1815:
Alexander V. LaNeuville was Adjutant. and Inspector General of Governor Claiborne's Staff] "down south":
http://www.hnoc.org/BNO/william_cook.htm

Thus the conclusion is reached that the family maintained their good relations to both jacobin as well as democratic and napoleonic France, that Anastasy, officialy implementing Napoleon's eastern policy after 1813 , was head of all family branches (Cochin, Caussin, Causse etc) and that their participation in the greek war for independence was mainly a byproduct of the anglofrench war history, american diplomacy at the time (1812-1827) being in a "transcendental" state!

As such, the presence of the "family papyri library" in the hands of Anastasy and his son Yanni is well justified.

THE next question is: Why did Yanni decide to offload to William of Orange their monumental "Αβραχάς-Βάλσαμος-book of Moses" papyrus early 1828 while aware of the marriage of his Cochin Zante cousins to a Balsamo?

Further to his great sense of humor, did he have another reason as well?

That's how and when it happened:

-October 1827: Ibrahim's fleet is destroyed at Navarino.
-January 1828: Fortress Grambusa surrenders after bombardment by british fleet..
-April 1828, consul Jean d'Anastasy's papyri are sold to Leyden

Jingle-bells!

[yanni]

To answer the question "Why did Yanni decide to offload to William of Orange the "monumental" Αβραχάς-Βάλσαμος-book of Moses papyrus while aware of the marriage of his Cochin Zante cousins to a Balsamo?" one really has to examine the US CoZine family, their history...their choices...

Z is # 6 in greek but last in roman alphabet to expell obscene omega (ω). The letter has found little use eversince and, if and when used in a name, it demonstrates terminal zeal (like Zorro's sign), zealot virtue, zymotic moral and zuavian finess, qualities usually found in zoharian-calvinist philosophy.

Z taking the place of CCH results in "COZINE" instead of the original "COCCHINI", (I and E being insignificant):

The name is pronounced same in both cases but, further to previous qualities mentioned, there is simplicity also, six letters instead of eight so, why not?

The Cozines, from a research indicators/pointers perspective, are the true pandora, the Z, of our Announcement:

The concentration of key words, like "Mercer" (county KY, dynasty), "Guilhelmos" (Guilhelmo Cochini, William Caussin, rev John Causse), "Allen" (John Allen, Poe's father), "Abraham, mormon, papyri, Mummies, Smith" (d'Anastasy Cochini, E.A.Poe), is so high that further unfolding them in detail is quite superfluous:
Our subject never was history of religion but the solution to the 1835 murderm as stated

A small review.....

By 1766 prince William Vth rules Holland. During the american revolution England fights Holland for siding with the rebels. (1782 Rite of Mizraim). The Paris treaty of 1783 brings peace but jacobin France conquers Holland next in 1794 and William fleds to Britain. In 1806 Luis Buonaparte becomes King of Holland but resigns in 1810. Treaty of London, 1814, unites Belgium with Holland and the prince of Orange, son of William the Vth, becomes King William I of the Netherlands.

...will refresh the memory of our scholarly american friends and relatives who may then further research the matter themselves to answer perhaps the following "pending" questions:

1. If Joe Smith founded his "Pearl" in 1835, how is it that the Mormon church holds today in microfilm the documents of calvinist rev Cornelius Cozine
(Additions from Jim Cozine Oct 15th 2006 Rev Cornelius Cosine From the Records of the Dutch Reformed Church, Raritan (now Somerville) NJ,
Holland Society of New York (Consistory notes on Raritan, North Branch & Millstone congregations) - Mormon Church FHC Film #3786 ( in 1972)?.

2 If (+ 33 M iv Reverend Cornelius Cosine was born 1718 and died 1786) died in 1786, how is it that the Inventory of his Estate was only taken three years after August 24th 1789 An Inventory of the goods and chattels of the Reverend Cornelius Cozine deceased taken the 24th of August taken by us Francis Cozart, George Williamson and David Beaty executors ?

3 Why is it that the Reverend's name is spelled "Cozine, Kozyn, Cosyn, Cosine"?

4. What was his relation to rev John Caroll's correspondent Rev John Causse, his "Caussin" cousins and their "Caussin Manor"?

5. Who was William "Caussin" and when, why and how did he tranfer the Caussin Manor title to Maryland authorities?

6 Who was Whilelmus Cozine of following web copypasted extract?
COZINE Searching for dates and places of death and burial of Wilhelmus COZINE, of Bergen in 1815 deed. I believe he removed in the early 1800s from Staten Island to Bergen Point, now Hudson County

7.Was he the same as Wilhelmos Cozine who arrived 1776 NY, the same who married 1774, 10 Mar; Elinor Habout and later on (when?) Wilhelmus also married (2) Phebe Vanderbilt, Willima Caussin of Caussin's manor?

As no answers will be forthcoming any time soon, some relative copypastes will follow.

[yanni]

Why, Ingram of course, of Mercer Co, KY, like the Allens!

Else, why would her family name be today ommited from all "authorative sources" who insist on "Allan" but are unable to explain why and how a Mr John Henry Ingram "undertook" on his own to treat dear Edgar like a "Mercer" commodity later-on collecting all "evidence" and publishing next his Memoirs, unable to document his heroe's St Petersburg's presence...

(EUGENE SCHUYLER, St. Petersburg, Russia, ALS to INGRAM 1874 February 2. 1 p. The Secretary of the U. S. Legation reports that a search of the Legation papers from 1820 to 1830 reveals no case involving Edgar A. Poe .
EUGENE SCHUYLER, St. Petersburg, Russia, ALS to INGRAM 1874 February 6. 1 p. The books of the American Consulate have been searched and no record found of Edgar A. Poe having been detained in Russia . )

...failing to research the hows and whys of his strange (1823-1827) US absence and later military behaviour...

He appears to have wandered about for some time, and by some means or the other succeeded in getting a little volume of poems printed “for private circulation only.” This was towards the end of 1827, when he was nearing nineteen. Doubtless Poe expected to dispose of his volume by subscription among his friends, but copies did not go off, and ultimately the book was suppressed, and the remainder of the edition, for “reasons of a private nature,” destroyed.
What happened to the young poet, and how he contrived to exist for the next year or so, is a mystery still unsolved. It has always been believed that he found his way to Europe and met with some curious adventures there, and Poe himself certainly alleged that such was the case. Numbers of mythical stories have been invented to account for this chasm in the poet’s life, and most of them self-evidently fabulous.

In March, 1834, Mr. Allan died, and if our poet had maintained any hopes of further assistance from him, all doubt was settled by the will, by which the whole property of the deceased was left to his second wife and her three sons. Poe was not named. (Memoir Of Edgar Allan Poe by John H. Ingram)
articles.poetryx.com/63

and deciding what was "worth" publishing and what "must be burned"

In the month of May 1844, Josiah Quincy and Charles Adams visited Nauvoo and viewed the Egyptian mummies and talked to Joseph Smith about the records...
..... the mummies and asked about the age of the manuscripts obtained with them it is clear that Joseph Smith and the early Mormons represented the Book of Abraham to have been penned by the very hand of Abraham himself. After Smith's death in June 1844, Franklin D. Richards published a pamphlet in July 1851, entitled, The Pearl of Great Price. In this publication was printed the little Book of Abraham, together with the three facsimile illustrations.

SOME WORDS WITH A MUMMY First Publication:American Review: A Whig Journal, April 1845

" The Cask of Amontillado" published 1846, "Mellonta Tauta", written propably April 1848, Edgar is inspired by George Washington's monument inauguration on October 19th 1847 "under the Auspices of the Washington Monument Association of the City of New York" and mocks directly both the republican system, the brits as well as the next US president Zacchary Taylor.

POE, Fordham, letter to ANNIE RICHMOND, Lowell 1848 November 16. Copy by Mrs. Richmond. 4 pp. Text printed in Letters 2: 400-404. "This must be burnt," written by Ingram on this copy.

1849 In his Anabelle Lee Edgar is still talking of his "Ianthe".

MARIA CLEMM, New York, letter to ANNIE RICHMOND 1849 July 30. Copy by Ingram. 1 p. Tells of Poe's derangement (in Philadelphia ) and of his fancied pursuit by the police. Poe assured her that he never did anything disgraceful while deranged

October 1949 Edgar dies from head injuries..

A Dream Within A Dream (1850) talking of his long lost golden sand grains

About five years after the three facsimiles were published in the Pearl of Great Price a young Egyptologist by the name of M. Theodule Deveria, who was working at the Louvre Museum in Paris...

..proved just how correct and "immortal", Edgar's count Allamistakeo, really was but his "out of tune very red cabbages" never took notice.


Perhaps the best way to end our Poe copypaste exercise is by presenting the following rare "pearl" extracted from Mercer Co KY genealogy forum:

[I]Looking for any information,John married Julia Ann Ingram.My family consists of Allens,Ingram,Herrington.This information would be of great help to me,and all who follows.My family has deep heritage in the state of Kentucky.I would also like any information;on the settlement of any Allens that settled in Texas..and so forth.I am trying to update and start a family Tree..One that is about our family history in the eastern part of the U.S. thank you Terry L. Allen{great-grandson of John Allen}http://resources.rootsweb.com/~guestbook/cgi-bin/public_guestbook.cgi?gb=1&action=view

[yanni]

Part I

Websearching for the identity of Rev John Caroll's correspondent Rev John Causse leads us to back to Benjamin Franklin who, apparently, did not at all miss his "Cochin etc" Paris friends and intimate associates because, as soon as he set foot on american soil, he was in touch with them again!

Rev John Causse, as per Biographical Annals of Lancaster County, Pa., Beers, 1903, p. 216, is:

JOHN BAPTISTE CAUSSE. In 1787 the priest in charge of the Catholic Church in Lancaster was John Baptiste Causse, a Recollet Franciscan, known in the order as Father Fidenteaieus. He had been stationed at Lancaster in 1785, having come there from near Philadelphia, presumably Mt. Airy. He was a man of considerable ability and took a great interest in educational matters, and in 1787, when the &quot;German Charity School,&quot; subsequently Franklin College, was founded, he was one of its first trustees, his name appearing as such on the minutes of the Board. He became rebellious, however, against Bishop Carroll, and in 1791 he was formally excommunicated by that Bishop, being the first Catholic clergyman in the United States to be excommunicated. In 1789 he had walked from Lancaster to where St. Vincent's Abbey is located on the Alleghany mountains and purchased the land upon which that abbey is located for five shillings.

"Recollet" is not to be found in our concise Oxford dictionary but the word obviously derives from "recollect": ie one who "succeed to remembering, recall to mind"...etc.

As per Franklin College Records......

1787 (March 10): Pennsylvania legislature grants charter and act of incorporation for "Franklin College".....Trustees nominated in the charter include: four signers of the Declaration of Independence, three members of the Constitutional Convention, and seven officers of the Revolutionary War.
.....
1787 (October): Franklin College is divided into the German Department with advanced students, and the English Department with high school and college students.
...............
1790: The federal constitution is ratified. Benjamin Franklin is dead at the age of eighty-four. George Washington is president of the United States, and the new nation is struggling with the debts of war. Many of the original Philadelphia sponsors have lost interest in the new college. The Lutheran and Reformed churches are also without money, and financial support for the college nearly disappears.

Thus father John B.Causse kept his "recollet jesuit" status while Franklin was alive but lost it immediately after his death.

Was he perhaps of german descend, as german "Causse" websites wants us to believe (failing though to claim him) or was he a "Cozine-Cosine-Cozyntsen" and what not, dutchman, (also disowned by the "Cozine genealogy" site)?

To answer this rather "ethnicaly delicate" question, one has to visit Pittsburg, Ohio, close to Luisville, the town names indicatory of the anglofrench struggle that determined father Causse's "alleghanic" allegiances, alienating aliances and allegoric aliases.

Alleluia!

(Heb: Halleluyah=praise ye Yehovah but the word derives form greek "allos"-other, hence allergy, allopathy etc!)

[yanni]

Following the solution of the main "family puzzles" and with relative conclusions reached re the existence of two, distinctly different, family groups pre 1790s, the "easterners" and the "westerners", the decision to solve their "american" mysteries as well is only justified by the discovery of a great number of their local descendants and their moving efforts to find the origins and the history of their ancestors, evident in many relevant web publications and forum queries and discussions.

It really makes no difference otherwise to this "story" if german oriented sites claim the "Causse- Little Germany-Egg Harbor, N.J" family as one of their own (forgetting "recollet" Rev John Causse), while the dutch insist on the "Gerritsen" origins of their "Cozyns" (and forget him too), others
(see 1* http://www.accessible.com/amcnty/PA/Westmoreland/Westmoreland41.htm: Author (Albert, George Dallas, editor, L. H. Everts & Company: Philadelphia PA, 1882)...
....claim his name was Causey and had come to Alleghany from Mercer Co, Conewago and that his "true jesuit" successor Rev Bruwer's name was also Brower (see note *34 on the founding of Pittsburg;s Saint Vincent) while they all forget, in harmony, the Caussins, their Manor (Nicolas Caussin, Ignatius etc) and its "secret" (Causse-William Cozine-Caussin etc etc)!

It makes no difference because, by their decision to call themselves "Mercer Dynasty", our "french Cochins" declare practicaly their monrovian provenance, that they are in fact the descendants of a 1608 Concino "affair" in the "Lower countries", that their ancestors returned to Paris France via Egg Harbor, New York and not vise versa and, as such, that they are indeed quite a different species than the "italian" cousins, the Cocchis, the Percevals and Saint Germain himself, they met there..

It makes no difference because all this was known already to readers of this thread!

Even if the am genealogical fuss on the web brings to mind prophet Abraham's own family tree somehow, the sincerity of the courageous efforts of the authors of.... 2*.http://members.aol.com/vorhiesm/agreement.html
3*.http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rclarke/page3/amack.htm
4*.http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cozine/aqwg04.htm
...cannot but be complimented and appreciated and this author, having studied in the meantime their works as well as ..
5*. http://www.catholicity.com/encyclopedia/p/pittsburgh.html

...thanks them and further wishes to advise as follows:

-There is no doubt whatsoever that "recollet" Rev John Baptiste Causse of Conewago is the same as John C. Cozine, son of Rev Cornelius Cozine or Cosine of NJ (until 1780 or so) and Conewago (next) whose records are to be found in the Mormon Church (propably via the Rev Joseph Smith mentioned in 1* above).
-Further investigating the "strange" circumstances of Rev Cornelius's 1786 death of unknown date, his will and legacy, his last wife's (Brower) 1788 marriage to his (will's) executor, Samuel Demaree and the provenance of Rev "Bruwer's" 1789 "Alleghany" wealth, is not of particular importance re papyri or mummies (such items, the mummies in particular, came 1827-8 to the States)....

BUT...

-the true identity of Rev John Causse's predecessor, a Rev Baron Denys who first appears...
"at Fort Duquesne, at the confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers"
....towards the end of 1755 does indeed concern us because:

-While 5* above describes...
Jacques-Denis Cochin A preacher and philanthropist, born in Paris, 1 January, 1726; died there 3 June, 1783. His father, Claude-Denis Cochin (d. 1786), was a famous botanist. Jacques-Denis followed a course of theological studies in the Sorbonne and was graduated with the degree of Doctor. In 1755 he was ordained priest. The next year he was given charge of the parish of Saint-Jacques-du-Haut-Pas. There he spent his whole life working for the material as well as the spiritual betterment of his people...etc

...and the good author of the (Catholic Encyclopedia) article did indeed provide the significant (1755) date, he forgot to tell us that father Claude Cochin, dying same year as father Cornelius Cozine, was enobled by the french King in 1748 for "some" services rendered, obviously other than "gardening".... .

Blason: Cochin - Claude-Denis, 1748. - D'azur, au chevron d'or, accompagné an chef de deux coqs d'or et en pointe d'une tour d'argent.

-As such, "Rev Baron Denys", also labelled "recollet" by the praiseworthy author of 1* (who, however also forgot to justify such label), cannot but be the same as the charitable founder of The Cochin Hospital....

- thus justifying the labor of 1*'s author as well as the title of www.accessible.com and the am confusion of descendants today.

We'll stay on the subject a while...

[yanni]

We'll let our american cousins decide themselves if Rev Cornelius Cosine (botanist Claude Cochin) really did die in 1786 and did not just "dissappear" in view of particular events taking place then, events that also decided the fate both of "Caussin's manor" in Maryland as well as his last wife's and "orphans".

Enough information has already been provided, enough leads, links and pointers have been published herein, no need for another detailed timeline from our side.

The following are noteworthy:

-The existence of two "Corneliuses": Cornellus Cosine-"Cozynzen" born 1696 (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cozine/aqwg02.htm#247C) and reverend Cornelius Cosine-"Cosynszen" born 1718.
(http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cozine/aqwg04.htm#115)

-The "inside knowledge" of the author of "Observations sur les Sauvages du Nord de l'Amerique", printed in Dijon by "Causse", 1795 including The letters to Franklin, addressed to Madame **, dated Passy, 1778 and 1779"

-The existence (in above site ) of a "Balm" Johnson Cozine, the name sounding awfully familiar (Balsamo), an indication of the first "Cochin-Balsamo" link, sometime in 1760 or so, ie soon after Giuseppe Balsamo&Co's visit to Egypt.

-Their marriages to every Monrovian name in the book, among which the Demotts or "La Mottes" (Johannes DeMott... Mercer Co., KY, 42 jaar oud....op 31-10-1793 in Harrodsburg, Mercer Co., KY met Anna Cozine, 16 jaar oud...geboren op 04-12-1776 in Conewago, NY, dochter van Cornelius Cozine) (http://members.chello.nl/f.demoet/demotttekst.htm) indicating that the Revernd was in Conewago much earlier than the land purchase.

On June 23, 1784 the Bavarian Elector, Karl Theodor, forbids his subjects to be members of secret or unauthorized associations, John Carroll writes to Cardinal Leonardo Antonelli 3/1/1785. Rev. Robert Molyneux writes to Carroll, 3/28/1785. Carroll writes to Rev. Charles Whelan 4/16/1785. General Convent of Masons in Paris convoked by the secret committee for February 15, 1785. Savalette de Langes elected president....

Jan. 6, 1785:The Pennsylvania Gazette A sloop from Egg Harbour, belonging to Mr. Causse, after being twenty days out, was drove on shore near Beaufort, North Carolina; the crew saved: She was bound to Hispaniola (Haiti)

Letter to John Carroll from Propaganda Fide 7/23/1785, letter from Carroll to Rev. Francis Neale, 6/17/1785, Ben.Franklin leaves Passy July 1785.

No reference to the sailing capability (supremacy) of the family has been found in any of am "sources", let alone the full identities of sloop owner and crew.

Happy New Year!

[yanni]

If Claude Cochin(+1786), the french royal baron-gardener, was Mercer Co calvinist Rev Cornelius Cosine(+1786) and if recollet Baron Denys of 1755 Fort Duquesne was the alleged jesuit priest of jacobin Saint Jacques, Jacques Denys Cochin (+1783), then:

1. Did Rev Cornelius have a son named Jacques?
2. What's the "Cosine" web version of "recollet" Rev John Causse, friend of Franklin, ie of Rev CC's other son, John C. Cosine (1762-?) and
3. Do his genealogy data confirm or not such a double identity?

1. Searching through http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cozine we note that Rev CC has no son by that name. There are furthemore not just two Corneliuses, as previously stated, but five or six, of which one at least, a Cornellus(1722/25-1774) son of Cornellus (1696-?) has no known issue and, like his father and family, is insufficiently documented. A "Jacques" son of the first Cornellus is possibly the explanation.
2. John C.Cosine (1762-?) is not at all well documented in above site:
Birth dates and details for his four sons (Cornelius 1785, William 1786, John C.jr 1799, Garret ?) and three daughters (Sarah 1787, Ann.M. 1800, Sally 1807) are not backed up by baprism records or other official documents whereas his 1814 marriage to his only wife, Anna Smock, confirms the confusion. Of note John C. jr and his "The day-book account: A journey from Harrodsburg, Kentucky to New York, and return, September 10th through November 27th, 1828" . John C. was authorised by the family to search a "missing fortune", obviously Caussin's Manor.
3. As such John's data tend to confirm his dauble identity but further search is required.

Such search resulted to:

Bond (1795) between John B. Causey, S.J., and Christian Roofner [Assignment of same by Christian Roofner to James Pellentz, S.J.];
http://www.library.georgetown.edu/dept/speccoll/fl/f119%7D9.htm

leading to the conclusion that

a) Caussin's manor was the family property.

b) Following his 1791 excommunication by Caroll, John C. did remain until 1795 in the US and then vanished (as other european pointers indicate) leaving a large family behind including the orphans of his late Rev father Cornelius.

c) The library curator, georgetown.edu may now have the pleasure of answering the rhetoric question:

Why does he still name him "Causey" and why does he still place him in the Society of Jesus (S.J) if Caroll excomunicated him in 1791?

[yanni]

Part I
Further noteworthy:
a) John Balm Cozine, born around 1723-1727, was perhaps not the son of Cornellus as per following extract .. Thought to be the son of Jan(John)Cozyn and Christina(Van Dalen)Shelton.Parents not documented.Died of yellow fever September 15, 1798 he...
b)...was nevertheless Appointed judge of the New York Supreme Court ..and... John married Margaret Roosevelt on 1774.)
c) A 1784 -5 Cozine marriage to the Vanderbilts and
d) A 1799 marriage of John Roosevelt Cozine, Balm's son, to a Rebecca Bush but J.R.C. dissappears sometime around 1818.
e)A George Washington Cozean, born 1802, possibly son of John Roosevelt Cozine by unknown second wife.

we conclude that our "recollet" jesuit-ex calvinist american cousins climb up society's ladder while in Europe....

1791 Avignon The National Assembly sent mediators (May 1791) who assembled, in Bedarrides, delegates from the communes of the Comtat and Avignon. On August 18, 1791, they voted by a large majority integration into France, ratified by the National Assembly on September 14, 1791.
(Jean Mallinger che studiò molto approfonditamente le origini del Rito di Misraïm, avendo avuto la possibilità di consultare numerosi antichi documenti, conferma che questo stesso Rito era praticato in Italia e nelle isole del mediterraneo prima del 1789 e che i suoi ultimi gradi venivano praticati in due forme diverse l’una dall’altra cioè: "una prima forma rituale era costituita da un regime filosofico-kabbalistico, praticato e diffuso dai Fratelli Bedarride;")
1793 Marie Anoinette's execution..
1795 Triple alliance against Napoleon. Death of Cagliostro Balsamo in August.
1796 G.Canning is appoinred assistant minister of foreign affairs. Napoleon is on his way to conquer Italy.

(continued in Part II next)

[yanni]

Part II

Back to France, in 1795, we are faced with the guillotined Cochin(1) and Cassins-Cassignys(8), the rise to power of the Dijon jacobin printers, the Causses, the 1790 conversion (and subsequent destruction) of roman catholic Saint Benoit to a horse feed storage....while, at the same time, the intention of late Rev-Baron- Jaques-Denys Cochin is publicaly declared to create a charity house for the Paris orphans, possibly including some of his american nephews and nieces.

1795-1801 The Cochini, already long active in Hydra, becomes active as from this period in Zante as well and , further to previously mentioned Hydra facts:

1797 October: Anastasy of Lazarus Cochini's first ever appearance in Hydra's archive: With Dim.Tsamados they are recorded presenting their large sailship (a "pollaca") to the ottoman admiral for allowing them to return to Hydra. Captain of the ship is an Anagnostis Causse (Kiosse) not mentioned in previous source(grk encyclopedia Helios) .
(The same month the treaty of Campoformio delivers Venice and Dalmatia to Austria and the concept of Two Sicilies is abandoned.)..
1798 Smyrne-Bornova: Charles Constantine LA FONTAINE, baptised 14th October , son of James and Nicolette Cochine- daugther of Lazarus.
(Napoleon sets foot in Malta and Egypt, his fleet is lost at Abukir, the Sultan declares war to France)
1799 March: The noble archon (ευγενέστατος άρχων) Lazarus Dim. Cochini grants another loan to Hydra's towncouncil of 7525 grosia at 15% yearly. Although he still is Russia's consul, he propably lives elsewhere at the time.

1801 September 2nd: 64 Gun "Causse" Captured, by a combined British and Turkish force at the capitulation of Alexandria
(2 April - Battle of Copenhagen, 19 May - Godoy's troops enter Portugal, 17 June - the Czar Alexander I signed a peace treaty with Great Britain.14 July-The 13,600 French soldiers, academics and others began leaving Cairo. 31 August - French forces remaining under Menou in Alexandria surrender to the British. In return for capitulating, French troops were returned home on British warships.)

1802-1807 Anastasy is Russia's consul in Hydra and
1812-5 Anastasy "de Perceval" serves Napoleon under Marechal Mortier.

Next Jorge and the Hercules (Epihany #2)

[yanni]

For the first time eversince he left the isle two centuries ago, Jorge, standing in front of the Museum next to the port his brazen eyes facing the sea, is finally smiling under his big moustache, so say at least his friends, the mules, Hydra's only means of transport, stationed before him.

Eversince he was presented to Hydra by Evita Peron in 1947 Jorge, suffering silently the indifferent tourists and the ignorant mule guides, had to wait till 2005 for his "official" recognition and, this here very thread, for his story to be made public.

Simply "Jorge", molded in the bronze, that's what they decided to call him, back then in Argentina when Evita ordered his statue, a bust, be made to commemorate the "other" greek, the hydrian, who, together with Samuel Spyrou from Lesvos, arrived under "mysterious" conditions in Argentina, sometime in 1813 and, fighting alongside William Brown, liberated Argentina of its spanish origins and Bourbon links.

When the bust arrived in Hydra, the town council decided his name was really Nicolas George Colmaniati, placed a relevant plate on top and infuriated him even more.

The Colmaniati= Nicolo Cochini link already made by 2000, it was only thanks to the argentinian soccer star, Fabrizio Coloccini who, quite unconventionaly from a historians perspective, finally came, via the TV the 16th of June 2005 while playing with "squadra Milan", to the rescue of his greatgrandfather, reconfirming and crosschecking this, imposiible for an argentinian, name to the undersigned who then advised Hydra authorities that "their Nicolas-Jorge" was "our" Giorgio, son of Nicolo Cochini, the 1790 corsair of previous posts.

Serving 1813-14 as flag officer of the flagship Hercules and captain of the Trinidad under the irishman, Jorge was next made a squadron leader in the war against Brazil 1825-1828 and then lived and died in Argentina, quite poor, the 24th August, 1866, 82 years old. (Hydra publications, 1937-1951, from Argentine navy records).

"Scholarly authorities" may now also take notice of the following:

..the Brown family emigrated to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in the United States, about 1786... One morning while wandering along the banks of the Delaware River, (William) he met the Captain of a ship then moored in port. The Captain enquired if he wanted employment and Brown answered yes. The Captain then and there engaged him as a cabin boy, thereby setting him on the naval promotion ladder, where he worked his way to the captaincy of a Merchant vessel. (http://william-brown.brainsip.com/)

.....the russian build and heavily equipped (64 guns for a merchanman!!) "Hercules" (http://www.celinaferreyra.com.ar/ingles/barcosframesuk/frames/historias.htm )....

....the presence of "flagofficer Jorge" in such critical times onboard such a vessel on her way to such a delicate mission...

....after the "discovery" of the Cozine US family....their relations to "Monrovians" in general, the Roozevelts....

Nicholas Roosevelt of a family later famous, built a steamboat which in 1811 ran from Pittsburgh clear through to New Orleans and back.. http://amstd.spb.ru/Library/kom/ch9_11.htm...

...and the Vanderbilts (see Commodore-Nicaragua etc ) in particular....

...the members of the club, that organised-and benefited from-the greek frigates fiasco, still "unknown"....

....the whole matter pointing to the "Cozine" participation in the "Boston tea party"....

..anyhow....

As at the time his uncle Anastasy "de Perceval" was serving in the french war ministry, captain Jorge certainly brought Hercules from Russia to New York-Boston where...

In December 1813, the Minister of War Juan Larrea signed an agreement with Boston-born Guillermo P&#237;o White (Pedro Lezica's partner), by which the latter was to provide the means for a naval squad that could ensure success against the Spanish naval forces.John Goodfellow's and William P. White's signatures on the original pay bill. John Goodfellow sold the Hercules, her cargo (ninety tons of salt and sixty tons of charcoal), as well as her Russian papers....Most likely, the Hercules arrived in Buenos Aires in about 1813 although there are no documents availing this.

As such the 1838 marriage of our George Washington Cozean, son of John Roosevelt Cozine to Eliza Jane White on 1838. Eliza was born about 1820. (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cozine/aqwg09.htm#449)....

....calls for further examination of the matter by those more concerned than yours-most intimately-truly, amply rewarded by Jorge's first smile.

[yanni]

CORRECTION

Authors of the following sites, documenting:

-Rev Cornelius Conewago presence "at least as early as 1769"
-The "uncertaintly" re his exact date of passing and the fate of his estate thereafter...

Heads of families listed in 1769 Conewago, York Co PA church records included: Cornelius Coysn (Antje’s father), Jacob Smock, Jr, Abram Smock, Bernard (Barent/Barney) Smock, etc. [The Rev. Cornelius Cozine was the first regular minister of the Dutch Reformed Church of Conewago; he is buried in the northernmost cemetery in Conewago, the site of the old church.] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mooreorless/smock.htm

In 1610, a Pieter Bodijn and his wife Maria Cosijns bought a grave inside this church. This grave was transferred to their son, Abraham Bodijn in the mid-1600's. Their will, mentioned in the Archive Room, also names a son Peter Bodine, Jr. To the left is a picture of St. Peter's Church. See the page about the results of my research trip to Leiden for more about Bodine records from this church. It's located in the Archive Room.

The earliest settlers in the colony came in 1765....The Conewago ....Reformed Dutch Church was built at the north end of the colony. The preserved baptism records indicate that the church was organized at least as early as 1769.

Rev. Cornelius Cosine (Cozine) owned two separate tracts of land under application No. 5203 dated 3 Oct 1768. ....Warrant dates of 3 Oct 1767 and....Both tracts were called "Pleasant Plain."
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bodine/n494.htm

..are hereby thanked and complimented.

The P.Bodin-M.Cosijns line is obviously not the product of a "Concino" affair in the lower countries but something else, possibly a sister or cousin, but there are unfortunately no sources re how many family members followed Concino to Paris in 1600 and if some had arrived shortly before.

Where exactly is Rev Cornelius buried is another matter alltogether.

[Adolescent09]

A lot of what you post is made up of logical abstracts of general findings from research.. I can't add my two cents to the issue due to my obtrusive lack of foreground knowledge on this subject but you would receive far more sophisticated and enlightening replies on a forum predominantly visited by posters who are appealed to the deciphering of meticulous details in classic mysteries.

[yanni]

Silence, the merest word of all!
(Edgar AllEn Poe)
Thanks anyhow.

[yanni]

Why did Yanni decide to offload-sell to William of Orange the "monumental" Αβραχάς-Βάλσαμος-book of Moses papyrus (early 1828) while aware of the marriage of his Cochin Zante cousins to a Balsamo?
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....odine/n494.htm links the "Concino's" Cozines directly to 1600's Leiden but there is a lot more to it than that:

As the convenient, purely profit motivated, "armenian collector" Yanni may have, until now, allowed theosophising aegyptologists their beauty sleep and laurels but, as the de Perceval-Valbelle and, moreover, as Champollion's friend and associate and, moreover as the one who provided in 1828 sufficient evidence to cripple Origenes's "structure", continued till now by the particular "west leaning orientalists", all in convenient positions of authority (all somehow related, one way or another, to Yanni's western part of the family and their "associates", their names not listed herein for reasons of etiquette only) this "new" Yanni now becomes the needle in the eye of their microscope if not the spark to light the purgatory fire and clean up their long frozen inferno.

Poor Giuseppe Balsamo: Last in the chain of command, first to fall in their Mizraim line of duty, victim to his own limitations and alliances, we'd ask him, had he been alive, just two questions:

Why did he select Rome this particular period of 1787-1789 and how did "His highly prized manuscript of Egyptian Masonry was seized, together with all his papers and correspondence" look like when "Suddenly, on the evening of December 27, 1789, he and his wife were arrested by the agents of the Inquisition and imprisoned in the castle of St. Angelo".

The first question is related to his 1785 confession, when arrested in Paris, that he had previously worked as "copyist" for cardinals York (Stuart) and Orsini, a confession that allowed his friends, at the time, to get his release and, as above, keep his precious "egyptian manuscript", the "monumental forgery" in all propability. Why did he select Rome? Did he really still have "friends" there, was he not satisfied already with his work, already evident in Paris ...

1789 On 23 June the Second Estate (4 bishops and 149 priests) threw in their lot with the Third Estate, but the King, instead of meeting their wishes, ordered out the National Guard against them. The citizens of Paris revolted and, on 14 July, stormed the Bastille. Many social changes followed, Church property was nationalized and non-charitable religious orders (Saint Benoit vs Saint Jacques?)Hand monasteries were closed. On 27 August the new French Assembly issued the Declaration of the Rights of Men, viz.: Liberte, Egalite, Fraternite.

He was no fool, Giuseppe, dying a martyr's death was totaly foreign to his jewish-sicilian character and the time spent in Italy too long to persuade us of the opposite.

On the other hand, his true aegyptological credentials were no more than what his "Αβραχάς-Βάλσαμος" papyrus now shows: a large enough PGM scroll, crudely interfered upon, the one sought for by his Leiden "mercer" friends, the one in the hands of Yanni AFTER 1815.

And, as we have seen already, Napoleon, who went as far as to arrest Pius VI along with his trusted cardinal, the aegyptology expert and manuscript collector Stefano Borgia, was in excellent terms with the De Percevals to his fall.

(part II following)

[yanni]

Stefano Borgia, 1770 secretary of the Congregation de Propaganda Fide, an office of which he naturally took advantage to acquire antiquities by the help of the missionaries...a cardinal in 1789...In the troubled period of the French invasion Borgia was given charge of Rome by Pius VI (1797-98). ....he was arrested (1798), but quickly released, whereupon he immediately resumed his studies and work of collecting; soon afterwards he joined Pius VI at Vallencia and endeavoured to have this pontiff send to Asia and Africa a body of missionaries who would preach the Gospel and gather various monuments.

General Berthier marched to Rome, entered it unopposed on 13 February 1798, and, proclaiming a republic, demanded of the pope the renunciation of his temporal authority. Upon his refusal he was taken prisoner, and on February 20 was escorted from the Vatican to Siena, and thence to the Certosa near Florence. The French declaration of war against Tuscany led to his removal, though by this time incredibly ill, by way of Parma, Piacenza, Turin and Grenoble to the citadel of Valence, where he died six weeks later, on August 29, 1799.

After Pius VI died in exile, Cardinal Borgia was of the greatest service to Pope Pius VII...In 1801 he was made Rector of the Collegium Romanum, and he was in the retinue of Pius VII when this pontiff went to France to crown the new emperor Napoleon. Having arrived at Lyons, Cardinal Borgia was taken ill and died. After his death his collection of Coptic manuscripts was divided: the non-Biblical manuscripts were taken to Naples and placed in the Biblioteca Barbonica, now the Biblioteca Nazional; and the Biblical manuscripts, excepting a few which were taken to Naples by mistake, given to the Propaganda....

We could go on listing the team of true orientalists working under Cardinal Borgia, his "fame" for not being carefull enough disposing his papyri around to other scholars more interested in science than theology, his friendship with Goethe, etc etc, but this goes beyond this forums limits as well as our 1835 object, so we'll just have to live with this "theory" re the provenance of the specific papyrus in Yanni's hands, a theory explaining his later treatment of the papyrus as well as the high "market value" of the "document".


Part III following

[yanni]

Yanni had already sold to the Louvre, via Henry Salt, a part of his collection in 1826 and was certainly in a difficult spot immediately after (1827), his old world gone, his father fighting the brits to the very end in Grambusa, the american frigate fiasco fully unfolded, their fortune "lost at sea", no chance to reclaim their french properties from Charles X, puppet of the British-Monrovian alliance, no more "egyptian interest" exhibited by Leopold of Austria, no chance of reclaiming his Florence-Venice property either, oh yes, he certainly was in urgent need of cash then but there were so many more "good" (scientific greek) papyri to dispose of, why did he sell this particular one incriminating his cousins?.

Well educated, extremely bright and, by then, an "aegyptologist" himself, Yanni certainly knew of the "Βάλσαμος improvement" on his "Αβραχάς papyrus", was propably also the original owner of Antonio Lebolo's 1826 mummies and was certainly aware of the PGM contents of the specific papyrus, later Jo Smith's "Book of Moses" and the use made thereof by his-Leiden rooted- Cozine american "PGM" cousins (including "Balm" Johnson and family as well as the beforementioned couple Demetrio-Giacomo de Dion. Cochini, noble de Zante et Anna, fille de Giorgio Balsamo, noble de Zante) re the "production" of a "most suitable" religion for the next "Promised Land".

Had he been in friendly terms with them he would have either refrained all together from selling the specific papyrus or, at least, he would have sold it in one piece to Leiden where William of Orange, already persuaded by Balsamo and hosting his descendants at the time, was also favourably inclined towards the Leiden Cozines and their western aspirations.

But Yanni did not do so: He sold part only of "Abraxas" to Leiden, other parts later on to other buyers, thus making sure, or so he thought, their "crime", for destroying "his East" for "their West", would soon be known.

He did not see it happening while alive but, as angels often do, he is also smiling now, a little brighter perhaps than his cousin Jorge.

[Jim Cozine]

This reply is for Yanni (postings 141-150) concerning the specuation that the ancestors of the Rev Cornelius Cozine of Conewago Colony in York Co. PA, (b 1718-d1786) are other than that which is posted at the Cozine Family website. I'm Jim Cozine (a 5th ggs of the Rev) and one of the main reseachers among the descendants group known as the Dutch Couisns - I think we can dismiss all your ideas with data in hand ( but not posted at the website). If you want to know more email me at [email protected]

[Logos]

This reply is for Yanni (postings 141-150) concerning the specuation that the ancestors of the Rev Cornelius Cozine of Conewago Colony in York Co. PA, (b 1718-d1786) are other than that which is posted at the Cozine Family website. I'm Jim Cozine (a 5th ggs of the Rev) and one of the main reseachers among the descendants group known as the Dutch Couisns - I think we can dismiss all your ideas with data in hand ( but not posted at the website). If you want to know more email me at [email protected]
Hmm, very interesting :)

[yanni]

In this particular case, Jim, (nice knowing you btw), facts on/actions by our forfathers, as laid out and logicaly (honouring "Logos") explained in previous text, are far "stronger", from the point of view of documentation, than birth records and other such data, "not already on the web" in particular.
Should you however wish to dispute any part of previous presentation, please do it herein, in public, including your explanation re
-Rev John "Causey"
-Caussin's manor
-the "unknown family sailor",
-the unknown "Washington" mother of George Washington Cozean, born 1802

AND.

-Cuszine (Cozine), John, 1:26(http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/index/colonial/list.html)
-” The judges and lawyers were followed by “John Lawrence, John Cozine, and Robert Troup, bearing the new Constitution elegantly engrossed on vellum, and ten students of law followed....."
http://www.bartleby.com/238/22.html#noteFN102

A new religion and a new constitution too?

The matter calls for an exclusively public discussion and there are quite a few
more things still "open".

BTW "Yanni's" name is Toni Cokkini, Athens, Greece.

[yanni]

To the memory of Sir Robert Dudley, navigator, customer of Cocchini printers, Florence!


http://www.answers.com/topic/dell-arcano-del-mare:. "The six-volume work covered navigation, shipbuilding and astronomy, with 130 maps in two volumes (nos. 2 and 6) . Unlike the vast majority of his contemporaries, Dudley's maps are all his own and were not copied from other mapmakers."

http://www.infoplease.com/ce6/people/A0829311.html "Robert Dudley's D' America XXXIII, the final chart in his Dell' Arcano del Mare of 1647, depicts the coastline of the region now called Cascadia -- northern California, Oregon, Washington, and, possibly, Vancouver Island. Strongly linked to Francis Drake's 1577-80 voyage of circumnavigation, the chart provides intriguing hints of other, unrecorded voyages into the waters of this coast. Even now, more than 350 years after it was drawn, it harbors several unresolved mysteries. "

[yanni]

Is the "Cuszine" gentleman below.....

-Cuszine (Cozine), John, 1:26(http://gwpapers.virginia.edu/index/colonial/list.html)
-” The judges and lawyers were followed by “John Lawrence, John Cozine, and Robert Troup, bearing the new Constitution elegantly engrossed on vellum, and ten students of law followed....."
http://www.bartleby.com/238/22.html#noteFN102
A new religion and a new constitution too?

...the same as John Balm Cozine?

Then- speculating ofcourse-his biographicaal details must be well known to american researchers, his choice for the "balm" name, his legal references, the University he graduaded from etc....

BTW are mormons the same as "amis" ? If they are, then their society's name points to France (Les Amis) as well.

[yanni]

The "unresolved mysteries" of Sir Robert Dudley's D'America XXXIII continue: The text quoted in post #159 above,.copypasted a year or so ago, has vanished in the meantime and, when Sir Robert's american expeditions are further examined, it is clear he never sailed as far North as Washington or Vancouver, ie the relative maps, added by Giuseppe Cocchini publishers in 1661 (cousins of US Caussins-Cozines), are most propably someoneelse's.

The matter "who discovered America?" already exhausted (without a definite reply) is of no particular importance re this thread, yet those interested to stake their claim for first settling there are advised to visit
http://geoweb.venezia.sbn.it/geoweb/HSL/CarteAmericane/CarteAmericane.html. and further note that the existence of a "northtern passage" was already known in Plato's time. It was next attempted by a venetian sailor named "John Cabot" in the early 17th century. .

[yanni]

Part I
-1631 By his " De symbolica Aegyptiorum sapientia. Coloniae Agrippinae:
http://special.lib.gla.ac.uk/collection/stirlingemblem.html", Jesuit Rev Nicolas "Caussin" or Caccini declares himself a "father of Aegyptology".
-1647-1661 the fiorentine-venetian-genoan-french sailors, royal printers and whatnot, Cocchini, (same family as french Cochin-Caussin-Caccini-Causse, later B.Franklin's friends), print Robert Dudley's Arcano del Mare demonstrate their particurar knowledge of US northern East Coast
-A french jesuit priest named Nicolas Caussin, relative of the previous (who +1651), first sets foot on Maryland, (St Mary's land), before 1640, marries a Jane Clark, has three sons, Ignatius, John and William and leaves a will in 1653.
http://genforum.genealogy.com/corzine/messages/240.html
-His son Ignatius succeeded him at St Mary's sometime 1648-1675
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/myff/d0080/g0000086.html
http://gennotes.150m.com/clarkapp.html
-In Williamsburg, Queens, NY, the Cozines own the "schoonmakers" yard:
...a John Cozine was an early settler in this vicinity. He owned the farm of the
late Nicholas Schoonmaker..Francis White’s farm has been occupied by his family since about 1700. His grandfather, Thomas White, kept the king’s store in Maspeth before the Revolution.http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Queens/history/newtown.html
etc etc etc

Further the contents of the Announcement as well as the above, we fully understand the problematic of "Dutch" or "German" Cuzyns to our documenting the french provenance and true identity of Conewago Rev Cornelius, ie Claude-Denys Cochin or Baron Denys:
As father of all "Cozines" who had a role to play in US history, Rev Cornelius has been the subject of research of many descendants and relatives, unlike the "Cornelii" in simultaneous existence, the cause possibly of the fuss and misunderstanding.
Noteworthy that these "historicaly important" Coz(s)ines have also escaped the attention and scrutiny of historians and, whereas Robert Troop's biography is on the web (Wikipedia) and John Lawrence, a merchant (descendant of Newtown, Brooklyn, founder Thomas Lawrence, 1667) is also to be found in "The Atlantic Crossing" (Time-Life books, Amsterdam, page 48, his ship The Brilliant, Norfolk VA, a tobacco brig bought off by the british admiralty in her first trip to Liverpool, 1775) John Cozine, the other legal expert of the sacred US Constitution, still remains a mystery, at least in the web published family endeavours by his descendants.

Confident that they (Rev Cornelius's descendants) are the same as the french "Mercer dynasty" who also appear, as previously mentioned, 1790-1836 in Zante as "Cochini", we'll next endeavour to further trace them, the lawyer "John Cozine" 1790-1836 in particular, on the web.

[Logos]

yanni, just curious, you cite a lot of digitized/online/web published sources and /or transcribed/interpreted sources of info. How much do you rely on *primary* sources for your research here?

[yanni]

John Balm Cozine, 1722-1798, of unknown father named John, grandson either of Rev Cornelius or his brother, Gerard, propably with a Balsamo mother, his daughter Eliza Althea Cozine born 1785....MARRIED In N. York, Mr John Marshall, of Charleston, S. C. to Miss Eliza Cozine, daughter of the late John Cozine, Esq. ( John Marshall, Federalist Chief Justice of the United States after A.Burr as per http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/Lossing2/Chap04.html)

1792 John Cozine is granted a piece of Jay, Vermont
..... the legislature decided that “the tract of land called Carthage is an uncommonly good one, and that it should be erected into a township by the name of Jay.” One third of the territory was granted to Gov.Thomas Chittenden, and the remaining two thirds to John Jay and John Cozine, of New York.
(From same site: 1805-1806:“Voted, That Louisa Tolman, an indifferent person, be and is appointed to draw the numbers in the Draft.” John Jay drew 112 lots and John Cozine sixteen. “Draft of that Part of the Northern Division of the township of Jay that was drawn to John Jay, Esquire, by the proprietors of said part of Jay and now divided between John Jay, Esq., and Azarias Williams, this 24th day of November, 1806.”.... The first saw-mill was built in 1822, by Solomon Wolcott, on the Branch, twenty or thirty rods below the present mill site and below the covered bridge. It was carried off the following summer by high water, and was never rebuilt. The house was built upon the bluff on the south side of the stream, and was occupied by a man by the name of White, who run the mill. The next built was a saw-mill erected by Ithamar Hadlock, on the Cook brook, just below the present dam. The precise date cannot be ascertained, but was about 1830. Hadlock sold Ebenezer Brewer a half interest, April 16, 1835, and the whole interest June 22, 1838.)http://www.rootsweb.com/~vermont/OrleansJay.html

1794: John Cozine vs Aaron Burr (who was appointed Oct 1792 by Governor Clinton as judge of the supreme court):
The opinion of Rufus King in this case was concurred in by Stephen Lush, T. V. W. Graham, and Abraham Van Vechten, of Albany; Richard Harrison, John Lawrence, John Cozine, Cornelius J. Bogart, Robert Troup, James M. Hughes, and Thomas Cooper, of New-York....
for
"An act for the more effectual protection of the southwestern frontier settlers." Unsuccessful efforts were made by Colonel Burr and others to amend it(missing webreference)

1798 April-June: John Cozine is among the "young federalists" who ardently support the notion of a war against jacobin France. The notion failed but some 900 young men then declared their willingness to serve abroad defending the interests of the US (see: PICTORIAL FIELD-BOOK OF THE WAR OF 1812.BY BENSON J. LOSSING 1869 at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/Lossing2/Chap04.html) as follows:

1798 John Balm Cozine: Died of yellow fever September 15,

1809 Cozine street, Greenwich Village, NY:
Just after Paine's death a street was cut through, called Cozine Street. Names were fleeting affairs in early and fast-growing New York, and the one street from Cozine became Columbia, then Burrows, and last of all Grove, which it remains today.... The Commissioners replanning New York desired to pay Paine's memory a compliment and on opening up the street parallel with Grove, they called it Reason Street, for the " Age of Reason." This was objected to by many bigots (who had never read the book) and some tactful diplomat suggested giving it the French twist—Raison Street. Already they had the notion that French could cover a multitude of sins. Even this was too closely suggestive of Tom Paine, " the infidel," so it was shamelessly corrupted to Raisin! Consider the street named originally in honour of the author of the " Age of Reason," eventually called for a dried grape! This too passed, and if you go down there now you will find it called Barrow Street.
http://www.oldandsold.com/articles13/greenwich-village-5.shtml


PS to "Logos": Source (primary or not) reliability has often been addressed in The Announcement. You don't really believe that such persons, famous for their multiple personnae, can be traced without source interpretation, by itself an art!

[yanni]

Recap.

Imagine yourself finding, in the ruins of your late granparents house, a large oil canvas under the rubble: You'd propably dust and study it next: Wear and tear, you can make out just parts of the picture, know it's by an old master and think there maybe a message in it for you, how it all happened, how did we all end in here, what do you do?

You examine it more, hours and hours, you read about art, techniques, methods and materials and, if you are lucky enough, you "see" more parts, amazing parts but, unlucky you, realise they are not all from the same hand, your canvass the work of many artists, "masters of disguise" to be precise, their messages so hard to read ....what then?

Experts and historians, you next call, refuse to touch your piece, name the masters, interpret the work, face the glow, turn their backs to you and dissappear, they infuriate you.

Later, when you have also seen through the beginning and the end, or so you think, the former crafted by your kin, the latter by someone else who left his rust and torn the work, blood splatters all over blurring the message and cutting your communications long ago, what do you do then?

You go on in the heat, can't back away now, keep on shouting on deaf ears, blame your ignorance, learn in an hour what you have ignored a lifetime, use every means available and, lucky you(!), find next another man's work on your painting, an american, a famous poet and, unlucky you(!), another riddle himself!

You find the strength to quickly relearn all you need then, get to know him better, trust him, interpret him, fascinated, his work, your understanding, keep on stretching your brains to limits never tried before, read anything relevant, wishfull thoughts and mistakes, the painting's message still unclear but the title now reads "roots of globalism", unlucky you, **@%$&#, the cherry to your pie, grind your teeth, go on, forget the heat.

The web, a Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve long gone, get back in the desert, face the army of veiled sheiks ready to tear you down, who are you insolent nobody telling us you know better, but no, you have done your homework, a virtual army, just you, your claim public but blinding the light and your course unsure, climb up that fossiltree for direction, Don Quichotte or SanGiorgio, the mill towers in the distance and the dragon below ready to devour you, fool him, cuddle him, kill him, do something.

You next see shadows moving under the brilliant crust, hear their call faintly at first, louder next, talking strange tonques, bits of their story, enough to read "WE", two letters, blessed be simplicity, you think, but maybe wrong, big is the desert, can't be just you, not just WE the towers and the dragon, there maybe, must be, others here, find them, call them, wake them up, make them talk, force them say their piece but no, not a sound, not a soul, not a word, just you and your thoughts, just you and your mended canvass, just you and this carcass of a dragon and the laugh of Apollo πανδαμάτωρ above all.

Such is the present status or recap of The Announcement, reader......καί ο νοών νοείτο.

[yanni]

I now understand why the Greeks were such great poets; and, above all, I can account, it seems to me, for the harmony, the unity, the perfection, the uniform excellence, of all their works of art. They lived in a perpetual commerce with external nature, and nourished themselves upon the spirit of its forms. Their theatres were all open to the mountains and the sky. Their columns, the ideal types of a sacred forest, with its roof of interwoven tracery, admitted the light and wind; the odour and the freshness of the country penetrated the cities. Their temples were mostly hypæthric; and the flying clouds, the stars, or the deep sky, were seen above. O, but for that series of 6306 wretched wars which terminated in the Roman conquest of the world; but for the Christian religion, which put the finishing stroke on the ancient system; but for those changes that conducted Athens to its ruin — to what an eminence might not humanity have arrived!Shelley’s Impression of Pompeii.
(From a letter to Thomas Love Peacock.) [c. 1818]
http://www.elfinspell.com/CelebratedLetters.html

"Again a revelation came to Joseph Smith from the Lord: 'Joseph, son of man, take a roll of papyrus and write on it these words: 'This papyrus represents Abraham and his sojourn in Egypt.' Then take another papyrus roll and write these words on it: 'This papyrus represents Joseph of Israel.' Now hold them together in your hand as one record. When the saints ask you what your actions mean, say to them, 'This is what the Lord says: I will take the papyrus of Joseph and join it to the papyrus of Abraham. I will make them one record in my hand.' Then hold out the papyrus rolls you have written on, so the saints can see them. And give them this message from the Lord: I will gather the people of Israel from among the nations and bring them to Zion."
http://www.myegyptology.net/file/id622.htm

We have visited the British Museum, which contains a vast number and quantity of Egyptian Sepulchres [Sepulchers], Mummies, Hieroglyphics, and Papyrus, the history and account of which we feel much interested in, and shall forward you an account of the same in a future communication.
We subscribe ourselves your brethren in the everlasting covenant,
C. KIMBALL, W. WOODRUFF, G. A. SMITH.
TIMES AND SEASONS.
D. C. SMITH, EDITOR.
CITY OF NAUVOO, FRIDAY, JANUARY 1, 1841http://www.centerplace.org/history/ts/v2n05.htm

[yanni]

You might have found the previous post's title irrelevant to the text, viewer, you might have thought it didn't make sense and you could be right:
Nothing makes sense anymore!

For instance, the many Coz(s)ine root hunters make no sense by ignoring the Maryland Caussins while ommiting, at the same time, their heirs, the Maryland Cassins, the "irish-armenians" of said title, well recorded otherwise as early naval officers and scientists, taking part in Decatur's "eastern" expedition, then saving Norfolk VA (fully justifying now Poe's "not long the measure of my falling hours, for of all stars closer was thine to ours") their name printed in gold in US naval history (excepting the short interval, Monroe's doctrine, 1815-1836), their records now at the American Philosophical Society, next to the Cassini astronomy book (http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/mole/c.htm).

It doesn't make any sense to further wait our "Cuzyn" etc US cousins to answer our invitation for a public discussion on the delicate issues of religion and constitution, no "reason" indeed.

The "US Cozine" research was not needed to beginn with, we said as much earlier on: The "Mercer Dynasty" choice of our Paris cousins alongside Poe's interpretation was enough and, as such, further studying early US history to find out exactly why the Baltimore merchants decided, 1815, to finance the "liberation" of Levant seas and thus promote their goodies and then decided, for some "raisin" or other, to cut promised aid and frigates delivery, siding with Britain, at http://www.webroots.org/library/usahist/cobmd012.html, makes also no further sense at all:

Researching above source for names and relations, as per name index included there: "Poe, Carrol, Murray, Dennis Claude, Geo. C. Washington, Gerard N. Cassin etc etc etc" in particular, will be to no avail, there are far easier ways to persuade the few remaining infidels (to our rationality) of our riddle solving capacity.

It makes sense, for instance, to ask ourselves "What reason did the Paris "Mercer Dynasty" have to entrust their sensitive family archive to an american author?".

It makes perfect sense because we have now discovered their "Merecr" roots and ties to the Maryland Lawrences and, as such, if we are lucky enough to establish that "Monsieur" (it's a she propably) Winnie H. Lawrence IS of Monrovian provenance and, if furthermore we are also lucky enough to further document our allegation that her book IS a half truth and of no use to us, as already stated, then out point IS made and we save ourselves the trouble, our familyghostbusting patience long exhausted

A monrovian-mormon "Winnie Lawrence" can be found at

http://www.heirsandroots.com/needham.htm

and a review of Winnie H.Lawrence's "Cochin Mercer Dynasty" book can be seen at
http://www.h-france.net/vol3reviews/harrison2.html

The review article--as well as the book itself-naturally fails to address the issue "Mercer Co Cozines" and, as such, the question why would a french family of "notable status", a later "denizen of liberal catholic circles", chose a monrovian american historian-author with quaker-mormon roots, to write their story, has now been answered:

A different philosophy (as per previous post) that' s all!

[Adolescent09]

Whew. Talk about initiative. Do a lot of people read what you have to say? I read a lot of your posts but I can't comment on any of them because I know little of the subject.

[yanni]

..are rare birds indeed, (USS Peackock, Winnie's cochins/cassins etc etc):

BAIRD, Spencer, John Cassin, George N. Lawrence; Reports of Explorations & Surveys, to Ascertain the Most Practicable & Economical Route for a Railroad from the Mississippi River to the Pacific Ocean, . . . in 1854-5. Volume IX. General Reports Upon Zoology of Several Railroad Routes Birds. Washington, House of Representatives, 1858, , 4to [30 x 24 cm]; lvi, 1005 pp, numerous tables, index, contemporary leather-backed boards, rubbed, edge wear, joint cracking but strong, spine title lettering faded, interior is quite clean and very good.

This report was reprinted verbatim for the Cassin bird book, The Birds of North America, published 1860, that became a classic work on the birds of the western US. Zimmer 646: 'The most important work on North American birds up to its date since Audubon and Wilson. The work consist of a critical, descriptive account of all the birds of North America, north of Mexico, and is not restricted to the species collected by the Pacific Railroad Surveys'. Hasse p. 62. Goetzmann, Army Exploration in the American West: 'The massive volumes of the Pacific Railroad Reports represented the combined efforts of the topographical engineers and a sizable contingent of the country's foremost scientists. Not since Napoleon had taken his company of savants into Egypt had the world seen such an assemblage of scientists and technicians marshaled under one banner'.

Now studying botany, the "very red cabbages" of Baltimore city, and will be back soon.

Eureka!

[yanni]

Part 1.
Had it not been for the particular "ornith", Yanni would have long boarded captain Steven Cassin's "Peacock" and sailed off, destination Zante, but....

Poe's 6 years in Philadelphia, 1838-1844....his most productive, yielding "The Tell Tale Heart" and "The Fall of the House of Usher," among others... (The Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia was founded in 1812 "for the encouragement and cultivation of the sciences, and the advancement of useful learning)....

....fully justify the assumption that Edgar was in close touch with..... .

John Cassin (1813-1869) was a Pennsylvania Quaker, businessman and unpaid curator of birds at the Philadelphia Academy of Natural Sciences, which housed the largest collection of study skins in existence at the time. Cassin took responsibility for cataloging and arranging the collection, thereby becoming familiar with birds from all over the world.
http://www.uiowa.edu/~nathist/Site/whatsinanamebios2A.html#cassin

After Edgar's death, John joined...

U.S. Naval Astronomical Expedition to the Southern Hemisphere During the Years 1849-50-51-52. (Contains 37 plates and 11 woodcuts all complete. 15 plates are color bird illustrations by John Cassin)

....and Perry's far east expedition next ....

At Hong Kong the expedition broke up, ships returning to the States or remaining on station as part of the regular Asiatic Squadron. Perry, exhausted and ill, traveled by commercial steamer and overland through Europe, arriving in New York in January 1855. On April 23, 1855, his original flagship, the Mississippi, docked at Brooklyn Navy Yard and the next day "Old Matt" formally hauled down his pennant.
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/PTO/Dip/Perry/index.html

...while back home....

One of the most destructive fires with which our city has been visited broke out shortly before 12 o'clock on Thursday night, October 19th. (1854) It is supposed that the fire originated.....to the inflammable nature of the contents of the establishment, the flames spread with a fierceness and rapidity that defied all efforts made.......the cooper-shop of -Page 547-Mr. John Causin, and several tenement houses occupied by colored people, were burnt out.....( THE Chronicles of Baltimore;BY COL. J. THOMAS SCHARF, MEMBER OF THE MARYLAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, ETC., ETC.BALTIMORE:,TURNBULL BROTHERS, (around 1869):

Col Scharf (like sharp!) member of the Maryland Historical society, was Edgar's first ever biographer and, obviously a half truth writer, a "papyri copier" and an outright "very red cabbage":

No true historian-author can bypass the naval officers Cassins (father John, son Stephen) in charge (1821) of naval yards of Norfolk and Washington and get away with it.

His book has been studied and found very usefull indeed.

(Part II following soon).

[yanni]

Part II

The recent discovery of Edgar's "alleged" friend, the Philadelphia-Baltimore ornithologist John Cassin or Caussin, same family as the US Cassin "irish" sailors, same family as Edgar's previous greek friends, Yanni d'Anastasy's hydrian Cochins or Caussins, opens the road to glory for all "Poe researchers" and other "creative scholars", such as the US Naval Academy (who did well to timely "stop maintaining" their Poe Perplex site btw):

The "Gold Bug", written in 1843, as well as "The Raven" 1845, are full of John Cassin's natural science "traces" (not listed due to much more important findings to be revealed further down) and as such, and further to what has already been stated herein in the past, the unknown...

...man using the pen name "Pocasin" wrote in the Messenger, "The Visionary is a vivid, inventive, and thrilling sketch -- teeming with beautiful language, which has the freshness and volume of the mountain cataract, without its turbulence" in July of 1834 (Thomas,169)

...may well be young John Cassin well aquainted with his family history.

However:

As the "Cassin sailors" recent discovery and the relevant websearch carried out by your truly in the last two days produced important findings leading to :
a) The answer, up to a point, to the question re Edgar's real identity and death.
b) The "greek frigates order" fiasco and those who benefited from it.
c) The identities of the Cassin officers-central figures in the US naval history,
d) "indications" concerning other "central figures" of US history...
e) the solution to the 1835 Zante murder

and as such delicate matters take time to be put together in a readable fashion...

Your patience is required: a) above is under preparation and will be published next.

[legrand]

Hi Yanni.....

Interesting about John Cassin, the "alleged" friend of Edgar Allan Poe. Good that you see Cassin influence in Poe's "The Gold Bug" and "The Raven". "Pocasin" -- very clever pen name.

I must discuss with you Poe and the Beale Papers mystery as you asked me to. It appears to me that Edgar Allan Poe did not author the Beale Papers. There is, however, very good reason to suspect that Poe did author them as in the following site the Beale Papers/Gold Bug comparisons are monumental:

http://www.bealepapers.com

But Poe did not author the Beale Papers. A man by the name of John William Sherman had motive, opportunity and ability to create a treasure hoax; a physical treasure of silver and gold does not exist. However, if a message exists in the elusive B1 cryptogram then there is a treasure of sorts after all as this cryptogram has remained unsolved for about 124 years until now; Kenneth Bauman has deciphered two messages from cryptogram B1. The following sites outline John William Sherman as creator of the "dime novel" Beale Papers:

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page20.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page23.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page24.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page22.htm

John Sherman extensively plagiarized Edgar Allan Poe to make his story (Beale Papaers) appear to be written by Poe. Sherman went as far as to hide a second message in B1 which equates to a signature of Edgar Allan Poe. I have deciphered this signature over and above the first decipherment of the phrase ERE FEN DUE RED KNEE which is explained in this site:

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme5/beale/index.html

Very beneficail to the discovery of the Poe signature was James Gillogly's site: (Jim stops short of discovering the 5 word phrase and Poe signature)

http://members.fortunecity.com/jpeschel/gillog3.htm

My second book will outline the Poe signature and is the entire project for which the book "Leaves of Lavendered Lily" in only an introduction. "Leaves of Lavendered Lily" can be ordered by the following two methods:

http://www.rosedogbookstore.com/leoflali.html

1-800-834-1803

Yanni, I hope this information is beneficial to your research; if you're concvinced, as I am, of Poe' NON-involvement with the Beale Papers, perhaps this can save you some time with the Beale Papers investigation. Even though there likely is no treasure (gold/siler), the Beale Papers, especailly cryptogram B1, IS NOT entirely a hoax. Perhaps there is SOMETHING hidden at Redknee. It is a mysterious project to be solved to say the least. I have done just that and am writing about it. My second book should be published by Christmas of 2007.

Yanni, I would be honored for you to read "Leaves of Lavendered Lily"! And especially honored if you would promote the book in Greece! Thank-you so much for your efforts and good luck on furthering you research -- I'll stay in touch via this thread and private e-mail

[yanni]

Part I
Colonel Scharf of Baltimore provided many clues to the solution of our puzzles including, but not limited to: Edgar's "perplex", as US Navy scholars chose to label it, and it's twin, John Allan's, the two, puzzles and men, inseparable.

"Pocasin" will concentrate on above "twins" and will address the relevant issue of the greek frigate fiasco as well.

Early in this thread we have insisted that Edgar did participate in "his greek expedition" in 1827, was also earlier on in Greece as George or William Townsend Washington (and Egypt as John Fowler Hull) and that John Allan, his foster father, was the same man as John M. Allen, the captain who supplied provisions to Missolonghi at the time of Byron's death (April 1824).

This theorem, that both men used multiple identities, that both shared each other's secrets and were thus chained to eachother, their philosophies totally different, "Until death did them part" AND "money", #1 motive always in criminal cases, is THE ONLY WAY to intepret Edgar, his work and his death.

Because, if this theory is correct, if John Allan is Tampico captain John Allen, he does not die in 1834 but is alive in 1849, Edgar's death, the chain possibly broken as his interests dictate.

This theory ONLY explains the controversial relationship of the two men, partly evident in their correspondence, Edgar's "false Muse" of 1827-1834, his most "productive" period of 1834-1844, his "revengefull-outspoken-sincere" period from then on leading to his death.

"Sordid money" was possibly an influencing factor in Edgar's "sources-biographers" such as Mr Ingram (already mentioned), possibly Mr Nilsen or Neilson (a Poe, love rival of Edgar, from a publishing family Edgar strangely contacted late in life) and a surprising AllEn (who broke the rule spelling the name correctly). Not so with Griswold (who forced Edgar to confess in writing his "greek expedition" and who wished Edgar "good ridance" at his death), possibly not so with colonel Scharf, his colours clear (but banner waving often goes with bad intentions, doesn't it ) too "sharp" to be taken seriously, the one who first dictated in writing, in the short biography of Edgar in his am book, that Edgar's family name MUST be Allan, NOT Allen and that he NEVER joined a greek expedition!

"Multiple identity" made life easier for such "biographers", their heroes using mail to establish their false presences and identities when required: As such Edgar's own correspondence cannot be taken as solid evidence unless this factor is accounnted for and a graphology test is carried out to establish what part of Edgar's writing is his own and what part is not:

Because, the existence of a real William Wilson, is neccessary in this scenario, another "Edgar Allen" attending school in London while "George" or "William Townsend Washington" participates in the greek independence struggle, the topic also to be addressed further down.

There are however a couple of items the "Multiple identity + money" theorem does not explain:
The unknown earlier years of "Edgar", his neoclassical-french tuition, his eagerness to participate in the greek struggle, his 1833-34 criticism for Yanni d'Anastasy (far too patriotic for "philellene" Irishman), the absence of Ireland from his poetry, his origins and identity, his St Germain decoding(Assignation), his own decoding by a Yanni the greek, the maintenace of his myth, perplex and mystery by those who do know and don't tell and, lastly, this author's regenerated interest on "Po Casin".

PS to Legrand:Nice seing you in this thread again and thanks for your kind words. Edgar's Legrand will be addressed soon herein, the Beale treasure (a group of men searching for treasure in "Tampico land") possibly referring to John Allen's own source of wealth, yet for the time being I simply do not have the time to look deeper into the matter but be sure what is next to be revelead concerns you.

[yanni]

Part II (Legrand)

In "The Chronicles of Baltimore" by Colonel Scharf the name Legrand is included and described as follows:

Legrand, J. C. pages 529, 538, 564, 584, 620 : judge in 1849, chief justice of the court of appeals1858, died 1861.

The name rang a bell (E.A.Poe's "The Gold Bug" 1843 William Legrand, the hugenot friend of the author's other central hero) thus further websearching for the name led to:

1834 May 13. Richmond County, North Carolina. Duncan McRae and Hampton LeGrand, Trustees vs. John M. Allen. Mr. John M. Allen, You will take notice that on the 1st day of July next at the house of Obediah DUMAS in WILCOX COUNTY, ALABAMA we shall proceed to take the Deposition of Mark Allen and others to be read as evidence in certain Suits pending in the Superior Court of Law in the County of Richmond, N.C.
http://home.att.net/~hbridges/tidbits.htm

John Allan's alleged death in Richmond, March 1834, is thus followed by a law suit of "Hampton LeGrand, Trustees vs. John M. Allen", May 13 1834, including a "Mark Allen" deposition in Alabama(Tampico Land), then we have the 1843 "Gold Bug" talking for a treasure hidden in a mansion in Philadelphia and last we have a J.C.Legrand appointed judge in Baltimore, same year as Edgar's death of 1849, a rising star in the legal profession from then on.

We do remember reading somewhere that

....John remarried the following year, and his new wife, who provided John with three sons, apparently did not replace Frances in Poe's heart. The new Mrs. Allan was not fond of Edgar, either. In March 1834, upon hearing that John was gravely ill, Poe rushed to the bedside of his dying foster father -- and the second Mrs. Allan attempted to block Poe from entering the dying man's room. Poe pushed by her only to be confronted with a livid John, who cursed Edgar and insisted that the young man leave at once. After John's death, Poe found that the man who had raised him and whom he had often lovingly addressed as "Pa" had changed his will to remove all mentions of Edgar.

Following John Allan's alleged death Edgar writes

"I looked forward to the inheritance of a large fortune - and was in receipt of an annuity sufficient for my support - by a gentleman [who] always treated me with the affection of a father. But a second marriage on his part, and I dare say many follies on my own, at length ended in a quarrel between us."

the above copypasted text goes on next as follows:

John Allan died in March of 1834, leaving nothing of value to his never-adopted foster son Edgar In 1835 he returned to Richmond to work as an editor on the Southern Literary Messenger.

...leaving us wondering if Edgar did ever honour his commitment, covering up his resurrected "partner in chains" John M.Allen, or was indeed the client of "Duncan McRae and Hampton LeGrand, Trustees", an easy question for the keepers of their archive to answer today!

[yanni]

Part III

Where trustees there are trusts as well but the source of John Allen's treasure was certainly neither a "Poe" trust(and there was one) nor an unexpected 1825 "Galt inheritance":
At the time, the "greel frigates fiasco" was yielding its fruits to the many Allens allegedly involved in the "deal":

The "virtuous quaker" of 1823, London (previously mistaken for John Alla(e)n) was William Allen (1770-1843), New Lanark Philanthropist, 20.11.1807 fellow of the Royal Society, partner with Owen and Jeremy Bentham, trustee of the Duke of Kent's financial affairs around 1815, also known for his assistance to German Separatists, 1816-1817 - Bimmelers, Zoarites to settle in the US where, obviously, he was well connected (search for "ALS, receipts, bills, subscription lists, broadside, Meeting related papers and papers of Friends committee assisting the Germans to settle here, find land, etc.includes letters from the following: Allen, William copy of a letter to Stephen Grellet, 3 mo. 27, 1817").

There were many Allens (Allentown) in the US in high positions then, even New York's mayor (before, during and after the "fiasco", the order placed in his playground) was a Stephen Allen, (reformist and prison builder like Bentham and his friends... (http://www.correctionhistory.org/tocqueville/html/B&T_report1.html)
...but by far the most "prominent", the one clearly in position to draw full benefit for delaying the frigate delivery and profiting as well, the one with connections on both sides, was a John Allen who, together with a Mr Echford, a Mr Blossom and a Mr Webb, were conveniently subcontracted the order from the other main contractors (among them Bayard, later related to Griswold and Edgar-see their "available curious" correspondence) and made the hit of the century:

Eckford....brought in his half-brother, John Allen, along with a Mr. Blossom as an investor. Allen was a shipbuilder, but remained mostly a silent partner leaving Isaac Webb to manage the yard....The following year Blossom died and from then on the yard was known as Webb and Allen.
In 1825...The Greek government wanted two of them. Christian Bergh was subcontracted to build the Hope and the Webb and Allen yard built the Liberator. The Hope was delivered. Then the Greek government's British allies swung the naval battle against the Turks at Navarino in 1827. So the Greeks canceled the order for the Liberator. The American government ended up purchasing her off the stocks and renamed her the Hudson.
The mid-1820s were prosperous times for the Webb and Allen shipyard... along the East River...http://www.eraoftheclipperships.com/page2web.html
also http://jmisc.net/octo/octo-07.htm

Is this John the same as "Tampico" Allen and our John Allan?

(see next)

[yanni]

In a mercer-lawyer governed democratic society, reader, we can only supply all available information to enable you answer the previous rhetoric question while we continue our line of thought as follows:.

Was his foster-father's "captain John Allen-profitable involvement" in the greek frigates deal, the only "holds" Edgar had on him, was this the only reason of their quarrels and final breakup of March 1827?
"Yes" to the first, no" to the second (as we'll see further-down, their quarrels starting much earlier) but such holds were very weak if compared to what Allan had on Edgar and his alleged brother William Henry Leonard Poe.

It's written that Allan prevented Edgar from meeting his other relatives earlier on in life, his elder brother in particular, because of Mrs Allan's fondness and fear of losing her adopted son. This is not quite so:

Mr. Allan, it appears, had at the time of the death of Mrs. David Poe come into the possession of some of her correspondence. What was in these letters no one will ever know as they were afterwards destroyed by Mrs. Clemm at the request of Poe himself. There may have been some compromising matter in them. At any rate, in order to insure Edgar's silence as to his own affairs, Mr. Allan wrote a letter to William Henry Leonard Poe in Baltimore, complaining of Edgar in vague terms accusing him of ingratitude, and attacking the legitimacy of the boy's sister Rosalie.
Certainly it must have drawn the lines much tighter in the Allan household in Richmond. Three years later we find Henry in Baltimore publishing a poem entitled "In a Pocket Book," which shows every indication that the doubts about his sister's legitimacy had gone home.

If "no one will ever know" how can one be sure that it was only Rosalie's pedigree at stake?
How can one be sure of that when, still today, the Schultzes of Pennsylvania reformed church claim that Edgar was not the son of David Poe Jr but of D.P."Sr"?

VIRGINIA MARIA CLEMM (6) born 1810 only child of William Clemm, Jr. and Maria Poe married EDGAR ALLEN POE, the Poet, son of David Poe, Sr. and Elizabeth Cairnes.

And this "minor matter" on their pedigrre was not the only other(besides money) "good hold" John had on Edgar and his sailor brother:

"William Henry Leonard Poe", his birthdate unknown, his service record too, the author of "a" part of E.A.Poe's work, was not a "Poe", not an "Allen", was not even a "Henry":

He was a "William"...

..BUT...

..not a "Wilson", as Edgar described his problematic "self" in 1839.

[yanni]

William Wilson.

In his story Edgar makes reference, among others, to a very specific, if somewhat irrelevant, date, 19th January 1813, a date his "problematic self" was "born".
It took a while to find out what Edgar exactly meant !

The capture of the british frigate Macedonian October 25, 1812

There was a boy only twelve years of age on board the United States, the son of a brave seaman, whose death had left the lad’s mother in poverty. When the crew were clearing the ship for action, the boy stepped up to Decatur and said, "I wish my name may be put down on the roll, sir." "Why so, my lad!" asked the commander. "So that I may have a share of the prize-money," was the earnest reply. Pleased with the spirit of the boy, Decatur granted his request. The boy behaved gallantly throughout the contest. At the close of the action Decatur said to him, "Well, Bill, we have taken the ship, and your share of the prize-money may be about two hundred dollars; * what will you do with it?" "I will send half to my mother, and the other half shall send me to school." The commander was so pleased with the right spirit of the boy that he took him under his protection, procured a midshipman’s berth for him, and superintended his education. – Putnam’s Life of Decatur, page 193.

The following is a list of the officers of the United States: Commander, Stephen Decatur. Lieutenants, William H. Allen, .......Purser Midshipmen...Joseph Cassin, Philip Voorhees....

Lieutenant Allen was put aboard the Macedonian as prize-master; he secured the fore- and main-masts and rigged a jury mizzen-mast, converting the vessel into a bark. Commodore Decatur discontinued his cruise to convoy his prize back to America; they reached New London Dec. 4th. Had it not been for the necessity of convoying the Macedonian, the States would have continued her cruise, for the damage she suffered was of the most trifling character.

James Tertius De Kay, a local naval historian...notes that Allen...was put in command of the prize crew. He brought the ship into New York harbor where a city street was named in his honor.

After the ship The Macedonian arrived in Newport, Rhode Island, as a prize 4 December 1812, and taken into service by April 1813, Captain Jacob Jones in command.

Commander Allen (then master commandant by a commission dated July 24, 1813), finding it impossible to get the wind of his enemy, shortened the sail of the Argus to allow the brig to close. He flung out her colors, and at six o’clock wore and delivered a larboard broadside at grape-shot distance. The fire was immediately returned, and Commander Allen’s left leg was carried away by a round-shot.A London paper of August 27, 1813, contained a long account of the ceremonies on the occasion of the funeral of Commander Allen. Officers of the Royal Marines formed a guard of honor, attended by the Royal Marine Band. Eight captains of the Royal Navy were pall-bearers. Allen’s own officers were chief mourners. The American vice-consul was in attendance, and a large procession of the inhabitants followed the hearse. The coffin was covered with the American flag. In the church (St. Andrew’s) to which it was taken the vicar read the funeral service of the Anglican Church.

....not only his ship, but his leg and eventually his life. Ironically, his brief successor in command was also named William H. Allen. Providence-born Allen died many miles from home in a British hospital, in Plymouth on August 18, 1813.

William Henry Allen was a pretty impressive Naval officer. He was born in Providence, Rhode Island on October 21, 1784 (three years after the Battle of Yorktown).

That's how Edgar's problem was born, IF we are to take his word for granted that is!

As before mentioned, "Bill" was not a "Wilson" (captain William Hery Allen died 8 moths after Decatur adopted young Bill BECAUSE he was already a seaman's orphan BEFORE October 1812).

So now we don't just have "William Henry" Leonard "Poe's" birth year, around 1800, but so much more to digest.

(The very date "Wilson" was born, ie the day he received the share of his prize was found at the "members only" Jistor history website, thus the only information drawn therefrom was:
January 19, 1813 WAR DEPARTMENT January 19th, 1813. ... The officers and crew of the Frigate Macedonian 37 and some others have ...)

Think it over carefully, dear viewer, sleep on it, and we'll see what comes next....

[yanni]

...is all one can say on previous two posts, dear viewer. Fortunately a lot of good people had done their job, it was no Augean stable and didn't need a Hercules to clean it, an easterly breeze was enough!

Edgar Allen Poe, the son of David Poe sr, and his true biography now finally open-cards on the table for all to see:

As instructed by commodore Decatur, lieutenant William Henry Allen (with prize-purser officer, later judge, 1817, Joseph Cassin-died in 1822) placed young Bill to the care of frenchman Henry Didier in Baltimore (hometown of Jo Cassin) early in 1813 for his education.
Bill did not need to be told who his parents were, he knew already.

Lieutenant William Henry Allen was next commissioned captain of the Argus July 24, 1813, was killed in battle in August and was buried honourably in London where, soon after, John Allen established his tobacco trading firm with Ellis (using the Allan name to avoid disclosing his family relation to the late captain William).

When young Bill "X" was of age he joined the navy as a midshipan and chased West Indies pirates on board USS Macedonian. The Allens collapsed financially in London, returned to Richmond for master Edgar's schooling. John Allen tried his luck next as a mercenary-captain in the Levant (quite possibly on a Cassin-Cochini ship) until 1823-24, became then involved in the greek frigates deal, returned to Richmond, went into partnership with Webb and, money flowing, enjoyed himself accordingly when...

...all of a sudden...

...Bill X, tired of chasing pirates and aware his uncle's luck had changed to the better, decided to pay him a visit, summer 1825, in his navy outfit. John being away and Mrs Allan unknowing, young Edgar hosted midshipan Bill, his late uncle William's adoptee.

This contact was the beginning of Edgar's problematic on his origins and the beginning of his later quarrel with John Allen.

Henry boarded next the Macedonian (On 11 June 1826 Macedonian departed Norfolk for service on the Pacific station, returning to Hampton Roads, 30 October 1828...and Henry's Montevideo letter shows that he was aboard the U.S.S. Macedonian in 1827) thus, when Edgar run away from home, early Marth 1827, he first contacted the North American weekly where he published his "Pirate", an account of Bill's story, and then boarded a ship to the Levant, enlisting by an assumed name (possibly George T. Washington, later converted to William Townsend Washington) on USS Constitution.

On his return to Fort Moultrie, late 1828, John Allen had many reasons to suspect his "son's" behaviour and aquired knowledge, thus he attempted to harness him limiting his finances, nevertheless Edgar wanted to publish his Al Aaraaf (May-December 1829) and avoided giving the MS to John Allan as requested, Allan then learned in horror what his son had written, feared of his own exposure, thus Edgar's first ever "formal letter" to John Allan of January the 3rd 1830.

Edgar learned the whole truth much later, propably when Bill was dyig(letter of Feb 21st, 1830 to J.Allan).Until 1833 (last leter to J.Allan) he continued addressing him as AllAn and in his correspondence to other Poes, he attempted in vain to persuade them he was the son of David Jr.

When writining his "William Wilson", knowing that Henry is not a "Poe" as the title implies, he hid the fact Bill was also not a "Wilson", the matter much to complicated for his readers to understand anyhow, possibly avoiding to expose his Philadelphia friends, the Cassins, who told him the rest of his brother's story and kept him informed of the Zante 1835 "happenings", thus The Sonnet to Zante, Lygeia, The Assignation and Annabel Lea.

Henry Israjel Allen, Edgar's source", is unreliable (the fact documented by his attempt to credit not just The Pirate to "Bill" but Al Aaraaf as well), his evidence (Eliza Poe's letter of February 8, 1813, that "....Henry frequently speaks of his little brother and expressed a great desire to see him"-Allen 20) suspect of "mispelling".

END OF STORY!

(BTW: The assumption that Edgar was John Fowler Hull, the Gurna quaker of 1823 is withdrawn as false, the rest of The Announcement stays as is!) .

[yanni]

Interesting extracts from recently aquired and studied "ISTORIKA EMEROLOGIA TOU NAYTIKOY AGONOS TOU 1821, Georgiou Sahtouri, Second admiral" Kousoulinou&Athanasiadou publishers, Athens 1890.
(G.Sahtouris (1783-1841), second admiral 1824-1827 on warbrigg "Athina").

"Athina's" shiplog

page 74. October 19th 1824: reports captain Toubazi visiting an american brigg and being advised by captain that the USA intends to present them with a steam driven frigate (24 canons of 48lbs) and 200.thousand $ aid. .

page 122. 23rd of July 1824 Yanni d'Anastasy's ship supplying munition to Missolonghi (Lord Byron dies late April there)

pages 156-159. 30th November1824, Porto Keri, Zante: Captain Kyriakos Paxinos transferred to them from his schooner an american by the name of Washington (book's namelist, page IX, his christian name initial G.). who was very sick and who asked them to stay on board as he could not stay longer on the schooner. They next sail non stop for Hydra where they arrive December the 5th.

page 194. 15th April 1826 Cephalonia, They are advised that Lord Gordon has arrived in Zante and that a british ship has arrived from England with coal to be used to fuel the arriving frigates.

(the one and only american steamdriven frigate "Hope" arrives in Greece late December 1826, is given the name "Hellas" and becomes admiral Lord Cochran's flagship April 1827 on his arrival)

pages 234-238.
30th May 1827: They are anchored at Petsai awaiting, as ordered, first admiral Cochran on the "Hellas". They further report sighting, early in the morning, american frigate "Constitution" and another american trimasted merchantman coming from Napoli di Morea. The merchantman advises of two more american ships soon to arrive with provisions. Cochran on "Hellas" arrives 3pm same day.
2nd June the Constitution sails for Hydra and they (the greek fleet) receive order to sail the 3rd June for Niocastro. They meet Cochran on the Hellas the 9th June.

[yanni]

Part I

We have been imagining lately, dear viewer, how Yanni d'Anastasy replaced John Allen (departing for the States) in supplying munition to Missolonghi in 1824 and how Edgar "Perry" enlisted on the "Constitution", shortly before the flagship met Cochran's "Hellas" off Petsai, and how he must have gotten hold of the late George Washington's diary (recording his previous relation to Yanni's "Ianthe")....

...and have thus been drifting away from our main course which should lead us, St Nicholas allowing, to 1835 Zante.

No matter, we still have time to imagine a while longer:

We just remembered a Mme detective-curator of B.Franklin's archive, how we asked her, long ago, to reveal to us the contents of a "Caccini" correspondend of Mr BFranklin but she, having developed a kind of maternal-patronising feeling towards Benzie, refused to answer back....

Would you be so kind as to send me relative info and perhaps photos of ...b) From Caccini ?, ------. Dunkirk., to Benjamin Franklin 1779 February 17 A.L.S. 3p. XIII, 115.

...we wrote, daring the guess:

Re the identity of the second of Franklin's correspondents Caccini(?): He is either Cassini Cesar Francois de Thury or Cachin Joseph Marie Francois or Georges- Luis "Le Rouge" , all apparently related to the first.

The above tender memory of Mme Waswarderdamename came to being while looking at some maps and, guess what, the same instant, the very same, very enlightening, instant, we also remembered our young american nephew, Jim Couzyn, the head genealogist of the very dutch very Cyzyn family of Conewago!

You may recall, dear viewer, his modest reaction to our claim that

....the true identity of Rev John Causse's predecessor, a Rev Baron Denys who first appears... at Fort Duquesne, at the confluence of the Allegheny and Monongahela Rivers" (around 1755)

.....was that of the parisian botanist, Claude Denis Cochin, father of today's Paris "Mercer Dynasty" as well as father or uncle or something of recollet Jean Baptiste Causse, friend of B.Franklin, a John "Balm" etc etc.

A very modest reaction, nephew Jim's was, too modest in fact as a counter argument to such an "uprooting" statement!

Yes, an important revelation came while yours truly was looking at some old US maps!

Part II following

[yanni]

Part II

Imagine how difficult it must have been for George-Luis "Le Rouge" or "Luis Rose", as they called him in the States, drawing his maps, months among the redskins in the wilderness of Allegheny, alone but for the good Reverend Cornelius Gerretzen Cuzyn-Cozine, the pacifist dutchman......

1781.7 CARTE DES ENVIRONS DU FORT PITT ET DE LA NOUVELLE PROVINCE INDIANA Dediee A. M. Franklin. This map comes from the French edition of Thomas Hutchins' A Topographical Description of Virginia..., with the French title Description topographique de la Virginie, de la Pensylvanie, du Maryland et de la Caroline Septentrionale: contenant les rivi&#232;res d'Ohio, Kenhawa, Sioto, Cherok&#233;e, Wabash, des Illinois, du Mississipi, &c publie&#233; par Thomas Hutchins. It was translated and published by George Le Rouge in Paris. It shows the region from Fort Pitt south to Kentucky and from the Allegheny Front west to the Muskingum River. The "Indiana" in the title refers to today's West Virginia. This image is from Winsor (1899).

---and then solo rowing his canoo along the whole eastern coast, exchanging letters with his dear Benzie at the same time.......

1783.9 REMARQUES SUR LA NAVIGATION DE TERRE-NEUVE A NEW-YORK AFIN D'EVITER LES COURRANTS ET LES BAS-FONDS AU SUD DE NANTUCKETT ET DU BANC DE GEORGE. A Paris ches Le Rouge... . This is Benjamin Franklin's famous map of the Gulf Stream which includes the eastern coast from Newfoundland to Florida. Pennsylvania and the other states are named. According to McCorkle (#783.10, 786.3, 789.7), who illustrates three versions, Franklin sent a copy of his chart to the French marine office, and when he returned to Philadelphia in 1785 he carried this French chart with him. This map is also illustrated and discussed in Pritchard & Taliaferro #62. An earlier version of Franklin's chart of the Gulf Stream appeared on a circa 1768 map of the Atlantic Ocean which included both North America and Europe, and so is not listed here; it is shown in Pritchard & Taliaferro. The image here is the 1786 version A CHART OF THE GULF STREAM published by the American Philosophical Society, Vol 2. Pl. 5, with "A letter from dr. Benjamin Franklin. Containing sundry maritime observations. August, 1785," and text titled "Remarks Upon the Navigation from Newfoundland to New York, In order to avoid the Gulph Stream." Wheat & Brun #721; Phillips page 592. Image from the Heritage Map Museum CD by permission.
http://www.mapsofpa.com/antiquemaps28a.htm

Both maps by George Luis Le Rouge, (the "red")


A different philosophy, a "dark" philosophy, definitely!

[yanni]

Gay fire-fly of the night we come and go" (Al Aaraaf passage)

Edgar's "greekness", evident to this here greek who claims to be the first to interpret and understand him, was not his own, but Henry's, the good side of his "William Wilson", his greek brother.

"Around" they came to the Levant in 1823, John Allen and young William-Henry, the first as captain of a Cochini ship, William as Guilhelmo Cochini "in charge of the Zante affaires of the egyptian ruler Mehmet Ali", already mentioned, once only on greek records, 21st May 1823 (D.Konomos, Anekdota Keimena Tes Ellinikis Epanastaseos 1821,.Athens 1966, page 68).

When the US frigate purchase was decided, after the "famous" London financing agreement, John Allen left his post and departed for the States, April 1824, whereas, for some unknown reason, Guilhelmo left Zante in a hurry to be next found being transferred, 30th November1824, very sick, on captain Sahtouris's "Athina" off Porto Keri, Zante, asking passage to Hydra declaring himself as "George Washington".
(We also meet Yanni d'Anastasy supplying himself munitition to Missolonghi 23 July (6th August) 1824 whereas late in August he reassumes his official postiton as governor of the island of Santorini after a long absence.)

Passage to the States was provided to "George Washington" and we next see him visiting the Allens in Richmond, summer 1825, in his navy outfit etc.

He excited Edgar with his experiences and returned next to Greece undercover ("below") as George Washington late in 1825 but, because of his health and his "erratic personal behavior and colorful life-style" (he has been convinced in the meantime by Yanni to support the antibrit cause) he was then replaced by a more stable, patrioticaly, Edgar "Perry" who came "above" in May 1827 to inherit not just Henry's diary but his greek contacts as well.

"William Washington" and "George Wilson" are later versions of the one and only "William Wilson".

Any philosophy avoiding the truth is "dark" by definition!

[yanni]

Readers are reminded that "The Sonnet to Zante"-post #1 of this thread-was a first indication of Edgar's link to Greece.

The Sonnet lead next to "Al Aaraaf" and the two poems eventualy revealed to the amazed undersigned the intimate-yet very unlikely then- contact of a famous american poet with his own greek ancestors and, furthermore, the very same period, 1826-1835 his research had previously focused on BECAUSE of a murder in Zante, a murder instigated by the greek national poet Dionisios Solomos with unknown Cochini victims, the fact verified in part by the Sonnet's contents.

Previous research had, by the proccess of elimination, narrowed the list of victims to:

-Anastasy Cochini (about 1760-1835),
(propably elder son of le Comte de Saint Germain, ie Gioachino Cocchi (aka Lazarus Cochini), assistant to Napoleon's war ministry 1812-1815 under general Mortier as revealed while this Announcement was written)

OR

-a "never heard of" Guillhelmo Cochini, in charge of the affairs of Mehemt Ali in Zante in 1823
(Edgar's greek brother "William Wilson" as per last revelations.)

Everything written in here, viewer, all effort and initiative, was for this one and only purpose:

To find Edgar's greek links, contacts and circumstances and to identify the victim of the 1835 murder, an "own moral code" demanding to precisely formulate such an accusation against the sacred cow of greek litterature.

Need it/can it be described just how much more our research has accomplished, what an everlasting impression and effect such accomplishments had on an "ignorant greek Yanni"?

No, it cannot, no attempt can describe it and, furthermore, the topics covered-snapshot like but with a fair amount of close ups, some with microscope+camera combination to show we mean business- so immensely important, so fundamental, do not allow such an attempt.

-Before proceeding to Zante,1835 as scheduled, we feel obliged to point out that solving "Edgar", the aenigma of his "split personality", was a relief: We really liked his greek brother only and we'll not miss the remaining "other half", he may return thus, partly intact, to his worldwide friends and fans.

-Whereas "Al Aaraaf" was based in part on William-Henry's diary as well as Edgar's own later experiences, The Sonnet surely reflects specific news (1835 Zante) John Cassin, the ornithologist, brought to Edgar, thus what we read in the Sonnet are: The indignation of an already "americanised" exfrenchman with greek roots, a romantic view of things, the "lost shrine" an indication of their previous attempt towards a new religion going sour because the central players had in the meantime turned against oneanother, Anastasy, the senior "elder" and holder of all "sacred documents" (plus french property titles, plus Saint Germain files), murdered by his Salomon "followers" and their Cozine+Balsamo "New Age" associates, the next topic and sole object of our research.

-It may also be usefull to advise the reader that although we still seek to determine our own ancestor's roots (the Missolonghi engineer Michel Pierre Cochini) and legacy, our main interest and preferance stays with the Saint Germain-Anastasy-Yanni line and history:

By own considered choice!

[yanni]

THE
Chronicles of Baltimore;

BY
COL. J. THOMAS SCHARF,
MEMBER OF THE MARYLAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY, ETC., ETC.


"'In Whig Club, March 4th, 1777.

"'Resolved, That Mr. William Goddard, do leave this Town by twelve o'clock
to-morrow morning, and the County in three days. Should he refuse due
obedience to this notice, he will be subject to the resentment of a
Legion.'
..................
It seems that Mr. Goddard entirely disregarded their summons, as the
following extracts from the same papers will show. Mr. Goddard says: "That
on Tuesday morning last [25th March], about nine o'clock, a company of
men, some of them armed with swords and some having sticks, came to my
house and took possession of the doors and staircases, after which several
gents, headed by Commodore Nicholson, came up stairs into the printing-
office where I then was. The gents remained on or near the stair-case,
Commodore Nicholson entered the room and seized on me, on which a struggle
ensued. The door was shut by a workman of mine, which was burst open by
the gents who stayed behind, who were pressing forward to assist Commodore
Nicholson. Several of the company seized me, and whilst in that situation
I received several blows given with their fists. My workmen in the office
were treated in the same manner, thrown down and much abused. The workmen,
I believe, were struck in that manner because they were busy in attempting
to shut the persons out who were coming in. I was then dragged down
stairs, when Commodore Nicholson, being apprehensive of firearms, searched
my pockets, and so did several others. The names of the persons who then
entered my house and treated me and my workmen as above, were to the best
of my remembrance as followeth: Commodore James Nicholson, Benjamin
Nicholson, Esq., Col. Nath'l Ramsey, Mr. James Cox, David Stewart, Esq.,
Mr. David Plunkett, Mr. George Turnbull, Mr. Daniel Bowley, Mr. John
Gordon, Mr. George Welsh, Mr. Mark Alexander, Mr. Hugh Young, Mr. John
McClure, Mr. David Poe, Mr. Daniel Lawrence, Capt. Hallock and Campbell. I
was then carried out into the street, and surrounded

Page 160

by a great number of people, most of whom I believed belonged to the Whig
Club, and carried thence to the tavern kept by Mr. David Rusk, and into
the room where the Whig Club generally meet, where I was treated with
great indignity by several present. The company were greatly increased,
and I, besides those already mentioned, remember Mr. Benjamin Griffith,
Capt. Nathaniel Smith, Lieut. Thomas Morgan, John McCabe, Cornelius
Garratson, Job Garratson, James Smith, son of William, and William
Aisquith. After I had been for some time in the Club room, Commodore
Nicholson proposed a private conference in another room, into which a
number withdrew, leaving me in the outer room under guard. After
deliberation they returned, and Commodore Nicholson, as chief or head of
the assembly, told me they had come to a determination that I should
either engage to depart the State immediately, or be subjected to suffer
their original designs. I then told them before I could make my choice, I
should know what their original designs were. The Commodore observed that
was yet a secret; however, my person was unsafe, and they were prepared to
execute their purposes. I then asked how long they would give me to make
preparation. Six hours were mentioned, at the same time it was doubted
whether at their previous meeting, the State, or the town and county only
were intended, and finally determined that the town and county only were
intended. They also gave me leave to stay till night, but to be no longer
seen there until the new form of government, or a new form of government,
bad taken place, or until the wheels of government were in motion. I then
told them as I considered myself unsafe (to which some of the company
immediately replied that I was) I would consent to depart, hoping that
another form of government would speedily take place, I was then released
from the crowd, and suffered to go home to prepare for my journey. I
stayed at home till night, then put myself under the protection of Capt.
Galbraith, who commanded the guard in Baltimore Town that night, and in
the morning set off to Annapolis."

(William Goddard had previously supported the notion, the people of Baltimore should welcome the offer of brit General Howe. )

[yanni]

Part I

Having documented the existence and relations of the Cochini in Zante and the US, their links to Ben Franklin, the Poes, the Allens, their "Balm" choices etc, their relations to Saint Germain'Cioachino Cocchi and his later(?) enemies, the "Voltaire oriented' Cochin-Cozine mercers, we now come to another familiar name:

Salmon!

"Solomos" in greek is salmon, the fish but, when the last "s" is replaced with an n, we have Solomon, the ancient jewish King.

King Solomon would propably have objected to be mistaken for a fish, thus people of his race who bear the name rarely offend him by purposely changing it to "Solomos"(grk) or "Salmon"(eng).

Born (1798) in Zante Dionysios Salomon , the "national greek poet" and alleged murderer, later became a Solomos by choice. He was not the only one however:

There also is a "Salmon" to be found in colonel Scharf's am "Baltimore Chronicle", pages 63, 139, 249, 260, 264, 274

Summarizing:

Salmon George, a "foreigner", arrived Baltimore Nov 1775, appointed judge 1788, member of the orphans court in 1792, member of the health comittee 1794, president of the Bank of Baltimore 1795, died 1807.

So the question arises:

Is our greek Solomos, the poet-murderer, a relative of George Salmon, the Baltimore banker, is the Cochin-Balsamo coexistance in Zante and Baltimore-Philadelphia a possible indication of their cooperation, at the time, with the Salmon "fishy" banking business in Zante and Baltimore-and possibly Paris-as well?

This topic will be addressed next.

[yanni]

Part II

A George Salmon (president/founder of The B.of B. in 1795) was previously noticed arriving in Baltimore as a "foreigner", November 1775 (declaraton of USA Independence year), almost simultaneously with comte Saint Germain's appointment (27th Oct) to Luis XVI's war ministry.
This same year:
-Within a week of the battle of Bunker Hill the Congress voted an issue of paper money and in : ....June 22, 1775 authority was given for an issue of $2,000,000. of bills of credit, based upon the credit of the States.
-The lodge "Nine Muses" was founded in Paris within "Les amis reunis". The two lodges as well as "Philalethes" operated under Savalette de Langes, Saint Germain's son. .

In 1776 Franklin became ambassador to France and was affiliated at the Nine Muses and Cagliostro was initiated into Masonry. In 1777 the Articles of Confederation were adopted by Continental Congress, the battles of Bennington, Brandywine, Germantown, Princeton and Saratoga. George Washington had his mystical vision of the future of the United States and....

In Whig Club, March 4th, 1777. David Poe, "Cornelius Garratson" (ie Claude-Denis Cochin), Daniel Lawrence, James Cox (later cashier of The Baltimore Bank) forced anglophile William Goddard to leave town.

-The printing expertise of the french Caccini-Cochin-Causses,
-their friendship and cooperation with Franklin (their 1779 corespondence on printing techniques and equipment),
-the latter's promotion(fur cup portrait) while in France,
-the subsequent french aid to the USA,
-the particular talents of Giuseppe Balsamo in "document reproduction",
-the fast depreciating first $ issues (1779- January 14th: 8 to 1,October 14th: 30 to 1. 1781- January:100 to 1, May 1781 the "Notes" ceased to pass as Currency),
-the 1786 Louvre theft from the royal designs collection guarded by Charles Nicholas Cochin (possibly including bank or promisory note printing plates)
-the "dissapearance" of Cornelius Cozine in 1785
-the letter exchange between ev John Carrol and Rev. John Causse dated 8/16/1785
-the excommunication of the latter in 1791
-the hydrian myth of Lazarus Cochini saving two jewish banknote forgers in his "first ever" trip to Trieste in 1792 and
-the founding of The Baltimore Bank by George Salmon in 1795....

...certainly all hint at "something maybe wrong", the suspicion further strengthened by the Zante "Salmons" ("count" Niccolo Salomon, Dionisios's father) and their vast wealth and line of business 1795-1807 (Money lending. Niccolo Salomon's 1807 Zante death coinciding with George Salmon's in Baltimore) .

If the origins of the Zante Salomons and the source of their wealth remain still obscure (Venice collapsed financialy long before 1797), Dionisios Salomon relations to the Zante Cochini are well established and on record:

Dec 1st, 1828 Dimitrio-Giaccomo Dion. Cocchini, (the one with a Balsamo wife of previous posts) witnessed Dionisios Solomos's first will and testament!

Furthermore Niccolo Salomon's Zante "myth" does include his nickname: He was known as "Tabacciere", tobacco trader:

Tobacco, Baltimore's main export to Europe, a monopoly then, possibly the cargo of Cassin ships, also traded by John Allen&Co in London later-on (1814-5).

We thus conclude that the Baltimore Salmons and the Zante Solomos are of the same marine species. This conclusion, that the Salmons-Solomos were in friendly terms with the Paris Cochin "Mercers", not the Cassins of Philadelphia or the Cochini of Hydra, matches previous reached on the same subject. Relative financial differences and "secrets" must now be added to the growing list of motives explaining the 1835 murder.

(part III folowing).

[Walter]

Undoubtedly the most remarkable thread I have ever seen!
I thought deciphering one of the cipher messages that he declared a fraud gave me some creds in the area, but I humbly back out, bowing low.

[yanni]

Part III

How did a 1775 Baltimore "foreigner" become an "American Whig" in 1783?

From 1783 arose a story peculiar in the annals of British statecraft. Britain's government in 1783-1784 was prepared to countenance the landing of British "convict servants" on US territory, as a virtual undercover operation. These efforts were unsupervised, except by the hapless English merchant, George Moore, who dealt with an American Whig, George Salmon. ([2])......
Between 1776 and 18 August, 1786, Britain involved seven ships in futile efforts to transport convicts, not including ships sent from Ireland. Those ships were Den Keyser to Africa of 1782-1783, Recovery, to Africa associated with Camden, Calvert and King; Mackrel to Africa; George Moore's Swift I to North America/Nova Scotia, Moore's Swift II to North America/Nova Scotia, Moore's Mercury's to Honduras and Fair American, also associated with George Moore. ([5]) Since 1718, no convict contractor had ever suffered so badly from convict mutiny as Moore. In all, Moore suffered losses of £4500. ([6])http://www.danbyrnes.com.au/blackheath/thebc25.htm

Salmon's Bank of Baltimore, founded in 1795 (capital $1,200,000) was the second largest bank of the USA then, the first being the Bank of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, founded in 1793 (capital $3,000,000. Next came the Manhattan Company, New York, 1799, $2,000,000)

We don't really know why colonel Scharf (like "sharp") labeled G.Salmon a "foreigner" on his 1775 Baltimore arrival. G.Salmon was possibly a descendant of the "french" Luisiana "Salmons" (see Luisiana commissary Edme-Gatien Salmon , 1733) and, as such, did not fit Scharp's "brit" version of Baltimore's history (the reason he forgot the Cassins) but what we do know is that Baltimore Bank's archive ended up in the hands of another "Sharp" who then was kind enough to trimm it:

SHARP, RICHARD G., COLLECTION, MS. 2309 Papers related to the Bank of Baltimore: letters to the board of directors, President George Salmon (d. 1807) and cashier James Cox, 1798-1821, about various accounts, loans, debts, policies on dividends and stocks, competition of state banks with the Bank of the United States, the printing of bank notes; letter from President William Wilson to Albert Gallatin about the bank's use of notes of the Bank of the United States; an opinion by Luther Martin on the security of a mortgage, 1803; meeting minutes about the use of foreign gold, 1810; advertising broadsides, 1815-35; technical pamphlet on the stereotype steel plate, 1806; pamphlet on the one hundredth anniversary of the National Bank of Baltimore, 1895; photocopies of the manumission of the slaves of Thomas Wilkins of Kent County, Maryland, 1794-1819 and 1824. Register available. Pedley, 141, 270, 1327 32 items, 1794-1895.http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fassitt/mhs.html

It all is a matter of sharpness, isn't it?


PS Thanks Walter but please straighten up and then check out how the alleged "Protocols of the Sion elders" originated from Rite of Mizraim's archives in 1901!

[Walter]

The origins of such thinking and societies are not specifically of interest to me; I wonder why the suggestion. Clearly I missed something in skimming through the thread.

[yanni]

Before entering the final round covering the 1835 murder and the "papyri copiers-mercers", a last word:

To the question: Who was the principle creator of the french Encyclopedia, the top symbol of Enlightment, below the answer by the site of "l'Universit&#233; du Qu&#233;bec &#224; Montr&#233;al - d&#233;partement de philosophie":

On sait qu'apr&#232;s le retrait du privil&#232;ge royal, chacun des volumes de l'Encyclop&#233;die, imprim&#233;s clandestinement, portera en frontispice, une gravure de Cochin fils repr&#233;sentant, sous un temple ionique, la V&#233;rit&#233; rayonnante d'une lumi&#232;re qui &#233;carte et disperse les nuages mais envelopp&#233;e d'un voile que la Raison et la Philosophie, &#224; ses c&#244;t&#233;s, s'appr&#234;tent &#224; arracher. &#192; gauche de la V&#233;rit&#233;, voici l'Imagination se disposant &#224; l'embellir et &#224; la couronner. &#192; ses pieds, les principaux m&#233;tiers ainsi que les techniques qui s'y rattachent.
........
Porte-couleurs parlant d'une entreprise qui a &#233;t&#233; le symbole g&#233;n&#233;ral des Lumi&#232;res, cette gravure c&#233;l&#233;bre l'ouverture de notre histoire moderne. Le passage &#224; l'esprit critique, &#224; l'esprit de libert&#233; qui s'accomplit, au moment des Lumi&#232;res, par la conjugaison du rationalisme et de l'esprit philosophique, ne pouvait sans doute se faire sans le travail &#224; la fois de sape et de construction du redoutable Dictionnaire raisonn&#233; des Sciences, des Arts et des M&#233;tiers. Machine formidable dress&#233;e contre la r&#233;alit&#233; du pass&#233;, ses croyances et ses institutions, l'Encyclop&#233;die a permis aux contemporains d'esp&#233;rer l'av&#232;nement d'un monde nouveau, parce qu'ils croyaient tout comme les Philosophes au poids propre de la Raison critique; et que selon la raison, l'homme est destin&#233; &#224; &#234;tre &#233;mancip&#233; par la raison.

Putting two plus two together

Studying european and american history ( 1773-1826) while focusing on "Cocchi&Co"{the other Cocchini names listed herein) and associates (those already mentioned, such as George Washington, Benj.Franklin, Decatur Lafayette etc and others such as John Jay, Baron von Steuben, Fulton, Latrobe, John Paul Jones etc)....

...If a single person should be chosen to get the credits, laurels or be beatified even for creating the one and only USofA, then surely "Saint Germain"-now his full identity has been revealed and their history put together-should be a prime candidate and, in the humble opinion of the undersigned, in such case should then be called either Saint-Saint Germain or Saint "square" Germain (honouring his mathematical skills)!

Until such time the following questions are addressed to this author's american cousins, the Cassin sailors who left their descendants in the island of Hydra before creating-and dying for later-the original US Navy:

a) What kept them for revealing their story all these years?
b) Do they posses any memorabilia from such times?.
c) What are they going to do re their "irish-armenian" roots?

Silence, as good an answer as any!

[ennison]

King Solomon would propably have objected to be mistaken for a fish,

Probably?

[yanni]

Do you mean to say he never repent for his crimes?
With Aaron, Moses brother, breaking the rule (ten commandments) and deifying a calf, isn' it possible that King Solomon (with the 700 wifes and 300 concubines) possibly worshipped fish when he grew up?
Many gout suffering "recollet carnivor warmonger Kings" of his time-and ours-certainly did!
As it turns out, only Pythagoras was right and, imho, industrial societies in particular would greatly benefit to follow his advice and worship the only realy pure-if home grown-deities: The onion, garlic, parsley, lemon etc!

Don't know about red cabbages!

[yanni]

Introductory (I).

The "Poe Announcement" is the conclusion of a wider research covering four centuries of family history previously totaly unknown to the researcher and never published by other sources either.

The initiative of the "wider research" was taken in 1995 when, reaching the age of reason and finding none, the undersigned decided to change course in life, cut short his previous professional life to find his lost "self" and "truth", look back, meet his ancestors, prepare for whatever comes next.

Someone had told him shortly before that his late grandparents voices were broadcasted on the greek radio in a program concerning early greek opera, he wanted to hear them so he contacted the man responsible for the program, a Mr Luntzi, a lawyer from Zante, a classical music expert as well.

The complete manuscript (some 25 kilograms) of a, considered lost till then, greek opera, "Kyra Frossini" by Paul Carrer around 1850-60, was subsequently rediscovered in grandma-Stella's trunk.

Stella (+1958), a soprano, and her husband, the tenor and opera director Giovanni Cocchini, were instrumental in creating the "Greek National Melodrama" in 1901 but, because of later events (1922 national "disaster") and the selfdestructing tragic end of Giovanni in 1925, their history and biography were never written and music, a family tradition till then, was progressively abandoned by their children and grandchildren.

Also found in the trunk was an album with newspaper clippings 1896-1918 covering their opera performances and tours (Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Sweden, Finland, Italy, Austria, Turkey, Egypt, the Balkans, England, Ireland etc).

Mr Luntzi wanted a copy of the "Kyra Frossini" MS to be exhibited at the "Dionysios Solomos Museum" in Zante (of which he was a member of the board) and furthermore so that, with the assistance of maestro Byron Fidhetji, the opera would be enorchestrated and recorded (funded by the "Friends of classical Music" the relative CD is on circulation eversince 2002-3) and, in return, the name of the undersigned would be placed on the marmor plate with the list of donnors to the Solomos Museum.

How did the MS end up in the hands of Stella and why did she keep it in her trunk to her death?

(Note to the viewer: From hereon the subject mainly concerns modern greek literature and history students, possibly classical music scholars and, finally, specific members of the Cochin-Cassin etc family.
Poe "enthusiasts" and other viewers who have followed this thread for any other of the addressed topics may skip the following text alltogether.)

To follow: Introductory(II)

[yanni]

Introductory(II)

How did the MS end up in the hands of Stella and why did she keep it in her trunk to her death?

The answer to this question (grandpa finding out the hard way how fraudulent his "music associates" and promoters were -his provocative "greek national melodrama" performances leading to the 1922 national tragedy-he buried it along with himself in 1925, grandma Stella never daring "looking back" thereafter) and their (written in the meantime) biographies were bypassed when, searching for grandpa's "voices from the past", his Hydra-Missolonghi ancestors of previous century were discovered and matters got serious.

Mme Adamopoulou, the kind curator of Hydra's Museum, providing assistance and archive material, the "greek part" (1745-1821) of the family history was then published and an announcement was made at the Third Congress of the Hellenic Genealogical Heraldic Society in Athens , October 1998.
At this Congress the existence of an 1853 Zante diary was brought to the undersigned's attention. It contained accusations against the Luntzi family (married to the Solomos post 1835) for participating in the murder of a Cochini in Zante. Other relevant indications from previous research on the Zante Cochini, until then seemingly unrelated to the hydrians, were thus .crosschecked and verified.

This coincidence, the previous "music expert" contact, the Zante lawyer (a kind man who provided relevant books and info for the grandparents bios) being a direct descendant of the alleged murder participants, complicated matters considerably: The possiblility the MS was buried because of "bad blood" between Hydra and Zante, that grandparents wishes were overlooked by an ignorant grandson, led to a phonecall, a couple of weeks later, to the director of the Solomos Museum: Yourstruly's name was to be removed from the said donnors list!

Other contacts, letters and publications re the murder followed to no avail and research then expanded internationaly via the web.

When E.A. Poe's involvement was certain, the "Poe Anouncement" was initiated and developed around poetry herein, poetry thought (and subsequently proven) to be more trustworthy than other "sources".

It has been quite an experience, the risk taken (to publish while researching) by yourstruly well received and appreciated by the reader.

It will end sort of "poeticaly" too, the last chapter dealing with the vilest of human acts, "δολοφονία", premeditated murder, destructon of life, the exact opposite of creation, a "poem in reverse" in fact, carried out by a man of letters, the "greek poet" Dionysios Salomon, author of no less than Greece's national anthem!

Sanctified by the blood of many fallen in battle, the Greek National Anthem that made us all taller bringing tears of pride to our eyes as children.

Our "spotless" anthem!

Still....

As the poet was born in troubled times
and
as he faced society from the wrong side as a child
and
as he truly suffered, subsequent to the murder, some twenty more years to his death...

...as he truly repent...

...this last chapter is not meant as a blame against the poet, his race or his poetry(!), the crime, as we'll later examine, planned not just by himself and family, carried out not to secure their interests only.

There was Cochini involvement too, on both sides of the blade!

[yanni]

Hi all!

Other commitments prevented the undersigned to keep the April date (whereby details on the 1835 Zante murder of a Cochini by the poet Dionysios Salomon and his clan would be revealed) and readers are thus advised to look forward to sometime around middle of May next.


Cheers!

[yanni]

Scruples?

Having crossed the great oceans, to conclude this writing in the pond of greek literature pealing pedals off its center piece, the great "Salomon " daisy (sacred cow we previously named him), may seem inelegant ....

However....


The 1835 Zante murder case must be honoured: It has motivated us to expand our research!

When, October 1998 as stated, Mr Ioannis Andriolas, an Athens dentist originating from Zante, advised the undersigned of the 1853 diary, in his possesion, accusing the Luntzis of a Cochini murder, many local loose ends suddenly all came nicely together:

Yourstruly immediately remembered a similar narration of the incident to himself by Nik. Luntzi (the story was passed on to Nik by Dion. Romas, the playwright who had included it in one of his plays), linked it with the inexplicable dissapearance from Zante, post 1835, of an Ioannis Dionysiou Cochini, a promising young member of the Ionian parliament and a judge, linked it to the "arranged marriage" of the Luntzis post 1835, to the Salomons, linked it to the Zante bishop Nicolaos D.Cochini, brother of the vanished Ioannis, who on enthronement "blessed", 1837, the court's decision granting D.Salomon his inheritance, linked it to another brother, Dimitrio D. Cochini, D.Salomon's witness in his first will and testament, 1828, who also dissapeared post 1835 from Zante, linked it to the Polidori-Chiveti from the Zante village of Macherado, next to the Cochini mansion in Bougiato , lawyers and notaries also conveniently married to the Salomons, linked them to the Hydrian captain Giorgio Chiveto of 1820-1825 , his relations to the hydrian Cochini turning sour around 1821 etc etc ... .

It all fitted nicely together then even if the Balsamo name of Dimitrio's wife did not mean much at the time, even if the fiorentine Cocchis and Gozzinis, the US Cassins, Cozines, Corzines, Causeys, the french Cazins, Cochins, Cachins and Causes and whatnot were still unknown, even if Saint Germain, Poe, Franklin, Baltimore, Philadelphia, the Vanderbilts, the US navy and their shipyards etc could not have been even dreamed of then , even if their stories, our History, were totally unknown to us then.

For this reason this writing must be concluded, must end, in stale waters, fittingly perhaps.

It's estimated that some ten more posts will be needed that will be published herein in the next few weeks.

To facilitate the average viewer, a lot of detail will be avoided.


PS Mr Andriolas intended in 1998 to publish his diary and was supplied at the time with a lot of Zante-Hydra Cochini info and Mr Luntzi was advised at the time of the Andriolas diary and its contents.
Having lost touch with both gentlemen eversince no explanation can be produced of the lack of any relevant publication today!

[yanni]

Expert "solomists" all agree that Dionysios Solomos's work, mental health and biography were heavily influenced by a long family litigation concerning his legitimacy and inheritance.

The text below is a summary from "Solomos bound in the legal system of his time"by law history professor Dim.Chr. Capadochos, Athens 1992. Relevant comments will follow on completion of chapter.
__________________________________________________ __________

Dionysios Salomon (1798-1857) was the first child of Angelica Nicle, a maid at the Salomons house from 1796. The poet's father was Nicolo Salomon (1737-1807). Nicolo was married to Marnetta Caccni eversince 1765. Before his marriage he was a tax collector contracted by the Venetian Republic to "farm" the islands of Leucas and Cephalonia. After his marriage however he began trading tobacco making a fortune. He was enobled in 1785, given the title "count of Torcello" by Venice, then in the brink of collapse (1797). He had a brother named Spyridon (no record of his birth, residence or death is mentioned).
When the affair began in 1796, Marnetta was still living with Nicolo, whereas their two children, Roberto, born 1767 and Helena, born 1770, were preparing to get married then and left the family house soon after.
1801 Angelica gave birth to another son, Dimitrio. Marnetta died in 1802 and, that same year, Nicolo included his two lovechildren and their mother in his will: They were to receive two thirds of the estate, Roberto receiving just one third and Helena, married to Stelio Stravopodi, Ant.Martinego's associate, a political opponent of count Nicolo, just her dowry .
A day before Nicolo died, late February 1807, he was married to Angelica, again pregnant at the time, by a stray priest who was however not approved by Zante's orthodox Church.
After Nicolo's death, doubts were expressed as to the father of Angelica's coming third child!
Living in the Salomon mansion was a certain Emmanuel Leontarakis, an associate of the count, maybe not in business only, that's why Roberto insisted to confine his father's mistress to a convent so that the exact date of birth of her next child would be verified. The executors of the count's will however, entrusted with the upbringing of the other two lovechildren and looking after their inheritance as well, chose otherwise: They kept the birth itself as well as the birth date a secret making a deal with Roberto: He was to receive a half of the count's estate, the other half to be shared by the other two boys when they reach 24 years of age. The coming third child was to receive nothing .
Angelica was married 15th August 1807 to Emmanuel and in September her child, Ioannis "Leontarakis", was born.
All concerned were fairly happy with the arrangement made but there was a problem:
The tabaccere 's will as well as the deal between the trustees and Roberto were null and void according to the venetian civil code applying in the Ionian isles long after Venice's collapse: Children born out of marriage were not entitled to any inheritance if there were legitimate children as well!
As such Roberto was entitled the lot and, next in line, would be in theory Ioannis "Leontarakis", if he could prove, that is, he truly was count Nicolo's child and if the deathbed marriage was accepted as valid by the church.

(continued)

[yanni]

Yanni's comments will be placed alongside the chapter's text afterall. They'll be marked as NBY=Notes by Yanni, in ( ) when applicapble. Capadochos book will continue to be used as basis but other sources will be included as well.
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Following Ioannis birth, Angelica, her three sons and her husband were prrovided by the executors a house in the town of Zante to live. Dionysio was sent 1808 to study law in Italy. Dimitrio and Ioannis followed later on.
Dionysio returns to Zante 1818 and lives with the Leontarakis family.
(NBY 1818 the independent Ionian State was consituted with a Lord Commissioner, appointed by the King of Britain, head of state with overwhelming authority. )
Dimitrio studies law in Italy 1817-1820, returns to Zante and, February 1821, gets married to Helena Arvanitaki, daughter of a close associate of the british commisioner, general Thomas Maitland.
-Greeks rise against the Ottomans April 1821-
Dionysio writes his first long poem, the Hymn to Liberty, May 1823 and, that same month, Maitland decides to have a new legal code system written to replace the venetian code but takes his time. (The new civil code was not ratified by the Commisioner until 1841.)
Dionysio already shows a probrit inclination in his Ode to Lord Byron (1825) accusing the revolutionaries, particularly the "profrench" party, for treason. (NBY: Similar signs are to be found already in his previous Hymn to Liberty).
The two brothers are living in the Salomon mansion since 1824, Dimitrio with his wife Helena, Dionysio a bachelor (lifelong). They often quarrel.
(NBY: One can only assume that title to their estate has been transferred to them then as Dionysios at least is of age. Capadochos gives no details when, how and by whom the transfer was made. Another source, "Year of Dionysios Solomos" by Ioannis Chrysicopoulos, Zante, 1998, specifies that the executor, Nik.Messalas, handed over the management of the estate to the two brothers the 6th of June 1826. However, according to Capadochos, Nik.Messalas died in 1821.Who managed the estate after his death? We'll return on the matter later on in another chapter)
In 1827 Roberto's only child, his daughter Bettina, marries the lawyer Dr Nicolo Chiveto.
When count Capodistria, governor of Greece, visits Zante, June 1828, Dionysio breaks up relations with Dimitrio, who is also of age then, and they divide their inheritance thus Dionysio's subsequent first will and testament, 1st December 1828, witnessed by his close friend the lawyer Galvani, his mother's husband Emmanuel Leontarakis and Dimitrio-Giaccomo Dionysio Cochini. The first two(?) are appointed plenipotentiaries. (Source: "Seven Days", Kathimerini, May 24th 1998, "Afieroma to Dionysios Solomos". NBY: Mr Capadochos ommits to mention D-G.D.Cochini in his book and fails to give any details on the will itself.)
The poet then departs, 16th December 1828, for Corfu where he permanently resides from then on. His intimate friend, Dionysio Nic.Foscardi, has been appointed president of the "Ionian Republic" by the brits this same year and the poet's main task is to promote the new civil code via a circle of friends which cost him a fortune.
(NBY: July 1830 Revolt against King Charles in France. Lafayette appointed provisional head of State until Luis-Philippe, the citizen-King is enthroned later on. August 1831 Admirals Miaoulis and George Causse with Mavrocordatos at their side burn the greek fleet in his base at Poros. Lazaros "Orlov" opposes them. Governor Capodistria is murdered in September. Civil unrest in Modern Greece, Capodistria's brother Augustine and followers are arrested and interogated in Corfu. Sources: Various).
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[yanni]

Dionysios succeeds to have the new civil code (containing tailor-made article 237 equalising legitimate and illegitimate children provided their parents are subsequently married to eachother) approved by the Ionian State Parliament in 1831. The british commissioner however does not approve it and as such the venetian code remains still applicable.
A month after Capodistria's murder, Dionysios befriends his brother again distancing himself from the Leontarakis family. He visits Zante, 29th October 1831, cancels his first will and draws another whereby he appoints his lawyer Galvani and his brother Dimitrio as his plenipotentiaries, Dimitrio replacing Emmanuel Leontarakis. (NBY: Dimitrio-Giacomo Dion. Cochini is not mentioned among his new witnesses or plenipotentiaries.)
While in Zante, Dionysios also insructs (his lawyer?) for the financing of Ioannis Leontarakis law studies in Italy be terminated. According to Angelica's later testimony, there was a mutual agreement, till then, her three sons would equaly share their inheritance. (NBY ie Ioannis, turning 24 in 1831, should get his third this same year.)
Early November Dionysios returns to Corfu wherefrom he sents his greetings to the family of Roberto. Roberto is already seriously ill at the time. By his death, February 1832, the problems of the validity of count Nicolo's will resurface (NBY: Mr Capadochos is not clear exactly how exactly they do in his book).
NBY: Another Zante poet, Dionysios Griparis, married to Maria Dion.Cochini, (sister of Dimitrio-Giacommo etc) dedicates a poem to Dionysios Salomon in 1832. The poem ridicules the myth of the alleged wellbeing of the Ionian citizens under british rule. Source: D.Conomos or D.C. .
NBY: June 1832 Anastasy Cochini , using the "Orlov" nickname as sirname eversince 1825, puts his signature to a letter written by the hydrian elders accepting King Otto as their King. It's the last entry concerning him in Hydra' s archive (source).
December 1832. Dionysios friend, Dion.Foscardi, president, dies.
January 1833 Ioannis Dion. Cochini, Dionysios Voultzos, Dionysios Flabouriaris, Dimitrio Salomon and Gaetano Chiveto are canditates in the elections for Zante's representatives of the Ionaia Parliament. The last four are probrit, the first three only are elected, in that order. (source D.C.)
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[yanni]

September 1833: Under the supervision of Bishop Agelos Chivetos elections take place in Zante to select the head of the church for Zante and Cephalonia. Nicologiorgio Dion. Cochini is among the first five. Dion De Lazari is elected.(source D.C)
October 1833: The commissioner Lord Nuggent formally receives future King Otto in Zante. Dionysios is present at the dinner and presents Lord Nuggent with an ancient marmor plate with the inscription "Kritolaos" found in Vougiato (Cochini territory) as well as the pistols of the late Lord Byron who had died in Missolonghi (D.C.) a year or so before the engineer Michael Petrou Cochini did.
Bestranged Ioannis, on completing his law studies in Italy (May 1833), visits Corfu this same month seeking to meet Dionysios to ask him for explanations. When they do meet however Dionysios refuses to even speak to him and thereafter Ioannis uses the name Leontarakis-Salomon.
Dionysios writes to Dimitrio to advise the Leontarakis family to move away from the house granted to them in 1808 as he intends to use it himself.
Griparis writes one more ode cursing the brits. (D.C.)
November 1833 Dionysio and Dimitrio ask Ioannis to declare why he is using their family name. He replies that he has just now discovered the truth about his father. The two brothers then file a petition to the court asking him to stop using it.
In his letter of November 23, 1833 to Galvani, Dionysios accuses the previous commisioner Adam of having exceeded his authority to disfavour him and affirms his readiness to take revenge in case the injustice against him continues::
"...people would be found to revenge, away from here, through a long and rough road, very certain nevertheless." I
n same letter he lists his new friends, not mentioning Emm.Leontarakis or D-G.Cochini.
November the 30th, 1833 Ioannis Salomon-Leontarakis files a law suit against his brothers asking the court to annul his father's will and be recognised as the only legitimate son, the other two being born out of marriage..
Roberto's death forces Roberto's heirs, his daughter Bettina and her husband, Dr Nik. Chiveto, to side with Dionysio and Dimitrio: If count Nicolo's will would be proven void, their inheritance would also be questioned (NBY: Not quite so! As the only legitimate son, Roberto's right to inherit the lot was rocksolid. One should look for other reasons they changed sides such as the fact that the Chiveti, eversince John Polidori's murder in 1821-he was a Chiveto- obeyed blindly the brits. John Polidori's brother, Gaetano Chiveto, returned to Zante to to participate in the local elections with the probrit party as seen previously. Source: Yanni) .
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[yanni]

In his letter to Galvani January 24th, 1834 Dionysios asks the lawyer to advise Dimitrio that the new civil codes process is going very well, as his Corfu contacts confirm. However, while his friends D.Voultzos and D.Flabouriaris are at the time still members of the Ionian parlament, in the next elections, June 1834, the probrit party looses many seats to the other party.
NBY: In these elections Ioannis Dion Cochini is elected second out of the seven Zante MPs. (source DC) Giorgio de Rossi, another of Dionysios frineds passes to the Leontarakis side(Source: Mme Mich. Chartoulari referring to a discovery of Mme Nella Pantazi, record keeper of Corfu's archive, Eleftherotypia, 27th August 2005. Mme Pantazi advised the undersigned in 2005 that the files of the Salomon vs Leontarakis trial were not found in the Corfu archive) and appoints a competent lawyer, Mr Typaldos-Xidias to defend Leontarakis. Obviously Dionysios is facing a well coordinated opponent, much "bigger" than Ioannis Leontarakis.
24th January 1835 Ioannis asks the court to verify (via witnesses certainly) if his mother was carrying when count Nicolo died and if he indeed was born seven months later. The court refused however to call Angelica to testify and requested instead that relative documents are produced. When this was done the court dismissed Ioannis application. Ioannis appealed, the court dismissed the appeal too, Ioannis then filed his recourse to the high court (Supreme Legal Council) in Corfu which also dismissed his case around April-May 1836.
(NBY: Capadochos covers this matter rather hurriedly-one has to search carefully around his book to find that the Zante court first dismissed Ioannis application June 1835-jumping next to July 1836, leaving practicaly 18 months uncovered. See * text in following post)
The new Lord Commissioner, Sir Howard Douglas, arrives in Corfu April 1835 and dissolves the Ionian parliament. (Source DC).
April 1835 The commitee appointed to put together the new civil code system presents its work to the Lord Commissioner. "Until then it appears that there were still some parties which objected to the invalidation of the venetian codes". (exact quote from Capadochos.)
NBY: The murder takes place late spring 1835 in Zante. (Source: Yanni's "Poe Announcement".)
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[yanni]

The murder takes place late spring 1835.
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June 1835: The court in Zante dismisses Ioannis application.He appeals.
August 11th, 1835: In a letter delivered by hand to his brother Dionysio writes:"...concerning this matter, do not worry as I have already taken and carried out the decision to deliver the whole of all our correspondence to other hands, well sealed".
November 23, 1835: In a hand written will, Donysios names Dimitrio as his sole heir in the case of his own sudden death.
NBY:: The three 1835 data above are scattered in other parts of Capadochos book. He continues his Jabuary 24h 1835 text as follows:
*After this decision in his favour Dionysios writes to Dimitrio, July the 6th, 1836...
NBY: The complete letter is quoted by Capadochos. The following extract is of particular interest however:
..."Do not loose any time but tell kitty that I was informed, even if she does not write to me, via the such and such old channel that our friend Cochino said "that he is now on the defense and that there is hope in due time he will be obliged to leave"*.
NBY:
a)Professor Capadochos spells the "Cochino" name both with a capital C (page 72) and a small c (page 90), both referring to above 1836 text. In the first reference he goes on to explain that it's a code name meaning someone with strong influence in government circles, while "kitty" a state servant who, contrary to "Cochino's" advise, managed to be transferred from Corfu to Zante. Asked how the name was written in the original letter, Mr Capadochos advised the undersigned, around 2004, that his source, Linos Politis, D.Solomos main biographer, did not specify it and that both references are exact copies from Politis books.
b)translating the text: Cochino's own words (between "quotes") reveal that he expresses the relief of one who has been under pressure for quite a while and who, because of a sudden event which made his position impossible to further defend, hopes to abandon it, leaving possibly Corfu or Zante as well. Ioannis Dionysiou Cochini, the MP and judge? We'll come to the matter later on.
August 7th, 1836 Dionysios writes to Dimitrio that he suffers psychologicaly and has constant fears and nightmares.Capadochos quotes other researchers suggesting Dionysios case is mental.
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[yanni]

September the 8th, 1836 Dionysios returns to Zante staying there for a long time and returns to Corfy May the 3rd 1837 (Source I.Chrysicopoulos).
The Revisional Council of the Ionian State approved the decision of the Supreme Legal Council favouring Salomon Bros, Arpil the 4th 1838, but the Church still has the final word on family matters:
NBY: It so happened that on March 19th, 1838 the church elected Nicogiorgio Dion.Cochini,brother of Dimitrio the witness and Ioannis, the lawyer etc etc who was enthroned August the 10th, 1838 (Source DC)
(another bit of info concerning the Cochini also missing from Capadochos "source")
Acccording to D.Conomos, Ecclesiastica, page 103::
"The same year of (his)...enthronement, differences arose between the Constantinople Patriarchate and the Ionian State when the latter filed a petition asking for permission to limit the number (line of order) of relatives and be allowed to performe mixed marriages. Patriarch Gregory the VIth dismiseed the petition accusing the Ionian State of plotting against the Church."
Page 105:
D.Conomos refers to an altera pars of bishop Cochini and authority as exarch (nuncio) "...to judge matters concerning marriage such as licenses, reprievals, annulments, divorces" but in all his books he refuses otherwise to touch the subject of the trial.
Bishop Cochini is known to have often preached the story of Zante's Agios Dionysios who forgave the murderer of his brother. He has obviously agreed to support Solomos on condition he will be spared seeing him again, as such Dionysios (and soon after Dimitrio) never visited Zante again.
1839-40 Dimitrio Solomos is apointed Zante's representative in Corfu. With the assistance of Commissioner Douglas, the differences with the Patriarchate resulted to the break up of relations with the Head Church (Autocephalon). The Ionian Bank is created. Griparis writes a four act satire against the robbing money lenders of Zante. Gaetano Chiveto returns to London where he prints verse by his grandaughter Frances Mary Lavinia Polidori, and by Dante Gabrielle Rosetti
Bettina, daughter of Roberto, uses the title "contessa" .
1843 Anneta Dimitrio Solomos marries Nik Luntzi
In the elections of 1845 Nik Luntzi, with 137 votes and Dr Nik.Chiveto with 1 (one) vote are not elected. Dimitrio Solomos is appointed Zante's prefect however.
In 1849 the Ionian Congress decides that Salomon Bros may carry the title "count" . This same year Dionysios completes his "Porfyras" but he poem vanishes soon after…..
1850 Nik.Luntzi is apointed Zante's prefect whereas Dimitrio Salomon is appointed president of the Ionian Congress by commissioner Ward and resides in Corfu.
April 1853 there is talk in Zante against "....the house of Luntzi and to remind of the Cochini murder which they allegedly then committed" (translation from Andriolas diary, more details to follow)
December 1856 the scholar Herman Luntzi, brother of Nik, supplies Dionysios Salomon with his translations of german philosophers to read. Dionysios, also emerged in occult studies at the time, is mentally unstable and drinks heavily.He dies after two months (February 21st, 1857).
The A' register of deaths in Zante, quoting the relevant entry from the Corfu register, mentions that the deceased "...is the son of count Nicolo and countess Angelica, born in Zante, resident of Corfu, landowner" (I.Chrysicopoulos)
Zante joined modern Greece in 1864 In the local elections of September 1863 the radical party of Const. Lombardos, supporting full union, gained absolute majority. Between his ten MPs one finds an Andrea Ioannou Cochini. (D.C)

End of chapter. More notes to follow.

[jon1jt]

it's time for a blog dude.

[yanni]

The brave few who followed this thread so far- managing even to absorb the previous chapter- and are now persuaded that all "official" local data do confirm Yanni's interperetation of Poe's work are hereby complimented and further rewarded by this supplementary list of comments leading us all, hopefully, to the final chapter titled "But who were the victims?".

1" Nicolo was married to Marnetta Caccni eversince 1765. Before his marriage he was a tax collector contracted by the Venetian Republic to "farm" the islands of Leucas and Cephalonia. After his marriage however he began trading tobacco making a fortune. He was enobled in 1785, given the title "count of Torcello" by Venice..."
Obviously a Caccini linking the Paris-Zante "mercers" to still more "Levs". No wonder bishop Nicolaos wanted to do it "his way"-perform "mixed" marriages- and took thus the Autocephalon road.
Re tobacco trade linking the US Cozines and Salmons to Zante and eachother: Enough has been said already but see #2 following to be sure. .

2. Nicolo's will.
No record was found as to the contents.. One assumes Nicolo was not aware, when dying, that his Baltimore Bank relative(possibly his brother Spyridon taking the name George on arrival?) and partner also died the same year he did. Until proven otherwise by US upriver cassin sailors or Salmons, the assumption that sometime around 1818-1830, when the US frigate order hand was fully played, shares or IOU's were brought back to Zante by a competent captain and, before being handed over to their rightfull owner, were carefully examined (the "societe anonyme", a wondefull invention of the enlightened few) and then used accordingly, will remain strong:
There was much-much more to "it" than just shaky property in Zante.

3.The executors.
In his first will (1802) Nicolo names Dionysios Gaetas, Vincent Reinaud and Nicolo Messala but modifying it "allegedly" at notary public Gaetano Chiveto (propably grandfather of Gaetano and John Polidori-Chiveto), Dec 1806, he withdrew V.Reinaud, maintained the other two and also named Nadales Domeneghini, Antonio Michalitsi and Francesco Muzza as alternate executors.
Capadochos however considers Nicolo Messala as one of the two persons who shaped the character of the poet and treats him accordingly (never again mentioning the other executors in his book) .
He further advises that
-Nicolo (1741-1821) was the son of Constantinos Messalas and Marnetta Logotheti (page39) and that
-When Roberto filed his lawsuit against the two brothers in 1807, Nic.Messala appointed chevalier Styliano Michalitsi, law professor and president of the local Zante government in 1808.(page 40)

We already asked ourselves :"Who managed the estate after Messala's death in 1821?" and "Who handed over the management of the estate to the two brothers the 6th of June 1826?"
This question will be fully answered in the last chapter, however here are some further bits of info to absorb, linking the Cochini to the case (Source E.R. Ragabe's Livre d'or de la noblesse Ionienne , Athens 1925. NBY Not a solid source as will be seen in last chapter):
a) Nicogiorgio(1791-1867) the bishop, Dimitrio-Giacomo(1794-?)the witness and Ioannis(1796-?) the lawyer ,were the sons of Dionysio Cochini(1760-1832) and Vittoria Dim. Michalitsi.(she dies 1805)
b) Their sister Elena, born August 1792, was married, 15th January 1817, to Count Stefano Messala (1750-1823 NBY source: The guide to the Zante Solomos Museum, Athens 1987 ) son of count Constantinos Messala. (NBY Count Stefano is therefore the younger brother of the chief executor who dies in 1821. He was the consul of France in Zante until his death in 1823 Thus the matter of "who transferred what, when"? is wide open, the more so due to the age difference between the 25 years old bride and the groom of 67)
c) Their sister Doretta (born 1797) married in 1st marriage, the 8th June 1824, Peter Mocenigo, noble of Zante and in 2nd, the 23rd November 1839, Ioannis son of Anastasio Gaeta.
d) Their aunt(sister of their father Dionysios) Taddea married the 10th November 1779 Giorgio, son of Lambrino Melisino. (Giorgio was elected, first of seven representatives of Zante, in the second Ionian parlament of 1823. His son(?) Ioannis Melisinos along with Arvanitakis and other five, were the members of the commitee formed by Maitland in 1817 to compose the constitution of the Ionian State. :

Conclusion: The Zante Cochini were very close to the executors of Nicolo's will as well as to the lawyer of his love children. Thus, despite count Nicolo's affair, their long lasting "business as usual" climat remained strong, making Dionysios choice of Dimitrio-Giacomo for witness in 1828 quite obvious.They were also fairly closely associated with the british administration

(second part of Comments to follow)

[yanni]

4..August 1831 Admirals Miaoulis and George Causse with Mavrocordatos at their side burn the greek fleet in his base at Poros. Lazaros "Orlov" opposes them.. Governor Capodistria is murdered in September. Civil unrest in Modern Greece. Capodistria's brother Augustino and followers are arrested and interogated in Corfu.

Until 1831 Dionysios has obviously placed his bet on Capodistria aand acted accordingly. He is not the only one however and it's not just "Causse" vs "Orlov" as per #3 above: The mysterious "Cochino" is also playing the same game and so do his brothers, as we'll see below and in last chapter.

5. Obviously Dionysios is facing a well coordinated opponent, much "bigger" than Ioannis Leontarakis:
The Cochini were unanimously following Canning's "friendly" policy while he was "serving abroad" or was in the opposition and some of this "friendship" may have lasted till 1823-24 in Zante. They were shrewed enough diplomaticaly however to understand and keep up the double game until their principal interests were seriously affected and, one assumes, this happened earlier to the hydrian"Sicilians" than to the Zante "mercer-lawyers" if at all . Hence the hydrians exposed themselves fighting for the wrong, as it turned out, side (profrench) thus giving the others the chance to stay low and make their compromise during the trial if not earlier. Dionysios Salomon was obliged somehow to follow their common profrench policy 1823-1828, was then promised Capodistria's influence till 1831 but then woke up, swiftly changing sides. The hydrians, still acting as heads of the family until 1835, turned against him dragging their unwilling Zante relatives along. They finally "got the message" via the murder which allowed the "mercer-lawyers" of Zante to express themselves freely from then on getting the upper hand while the hydrians dissappeared from the scene thereafter.

6. The 1853 diary of Antonio Melissino

In a letter to the undersigned,1999, Andriolas provided a handwritten copy of the relevant page only (explaining that the rest of the diary is mostly in italian) and a brief summary linking the particular page to the previous text:

Summary: In 1853 rumors circulate in Zante that Maria Luntzi, orphaned from both parents, niece of the Luntzi brothers (Herman, Nicolao and Jacob-William) has eloped with a Cochini

Copy of page page 32
The 4th April 1853
Today I met George Messala, we went for a stroll together and he told me: Did you hear what lies they said for the Luntzi girl and do you know the reason?
No, I replied and he added that ,at the ball of the commissioner George Melissinos and his own brother, Stefano Messala, were rudely teazing the ladies of the other party creating thus great confusion. After that this party, to take revenge, conceived the idea to spread this rumor around and spill dirt against the house of Luntzi bringing to memory the Cochini murder they allegedly then committed, adding that my (Ant.Mellissino is obviously in love with the girl) Maria's confessor advised her to do so (elope) to obtain absolution from the sin, and all that to reach the ears of the administration .
(translated from bad greek)

Comment by Yanni:
-Clearly a case of Aprilfoolers vs Mayfirsters!
-Merely names are proof enough that the murder under discussion is related to the Salomon vs Leontarakis trial.

Next : But who were the victims? (last chapter)

[Walter]

I finally have to wonder what all this was about.

Will there be a short, s-h-o-r-t , summary after that last chapter -- not of the content, but of what this was?

[jon1jt]

the whole piece is encyclopedic and amounts to a rudimentary commentary with nothing new or revealing to the body of research on same. or am i missing it??

and where's your bibliography? you put words in quotations assuming the reader knows the real meaning.

[yanni]

The long and the s-h-o-r-t and the tall

see things differently

if at all!

[Walter]

Is that really your answer?
Are you really willing to have all your effort go straight down the drain by not being communicative?
It is your choice and makes little difference to me.

[yanni]

But...who were the victims?

Dedicated to mercifull mercer "Cochino"!

Part 1

The titled question, a key object of this " instant online research and publish" high wire act, has finally been answered: The victim was neither the Sonnet's maiden (post #1) or Al Aaraafs "Ianthe" (Angelica Palli), nor Guillelmo Cochini (William Henry "Poe"), but Anastasy, Yanni's father (possibly count Saint Germain's son) who was assasinated 1835 in Zante, his curriculum vitae, completed in the meantime with his service in Napoleon's war ministry, fully justifying the conclusion and the main motives of the assasins.

"Finally" because this very same question was wrongly answered in the past, the undersigned publicaly (Note 1 below) making a fool of himself

Elation and ignorance guiding back then, the "father" of greek heraldic science, E.R.Ragabe was even ignored who, in his "Livre d'Or de la noblesse Ionnienne", Athens 1927, specifies that the first "victim" was very much alive, till 1837 at least, his wife keeping on bearing his children until 1838.
There was good reason to ignore Ragabe however: In the "Preface" of his book he states that his only source were the alleged assasins themselves, the Luntzis (acting for the Salomons) . His data on the lawyer were furthermore contradictory (Note 2).

Anyhow, said letter was published and, about that time, the original research on the history of the hydrians was also published. Nobody reacted one way or another, yourstruly could have been content but wasn't, something was amiss, a bad odour floated around, so research continued and, save for the mistake made regarding the number of I.D.Cochini's children, Ragabe and his Luntzi source turned out to be trustworthy, on their Cochini data at least. .

As such, their info on Salomon's first witness, Dimitri-Giacomo(Note 3) had also be considered solid: Dimitrio to was alive until 1838 at least and , as such, the list of Zante candidate Cochini victims run dry: None had been assasinated. Their tentative involvement with the other side was already quite evident but no reason for such a treacherous act against their own family could be found or imagined even, other than money, an ugly scenario!

The item was left pending!

As the Announcement progressed, the Paris mercers were discovered and a lot was written re their dissapearance from Paris after Bastille, their jacobin links, their US and Zante Balsamo links and simultaneous presence etc etc. Earlier , upon the discovery of the eventual sanctification of the founder of the Paris Cochin Hospital, a very specific hint was made:"we'll see about him and that" we remember writing.

Before that, at the time this thread started, letters had been addressed to randomly selected members of the french Cochin etc families as well as to the French Cultural Institute in Athens (under the Foreign Ministry of France) asking for their cooperation in solving the family mysteries of wider national historic and cultural interest. Excepting an empty answer by the last, no other reply was ever received, "thickening the plot"!

Research continued in many fields in parallel revealing all sorts of "wonders". Returning to the Zante murder was kept for the end, the nightmarishly complex and unfathomably ugly truth almost impossible to go back to and, furthermore describe, thus the previous chapter, the cherry to the pie .

It's time to close books!

(continued in Part 2):

Note 1 With Andriolas diary revelation, everything "...fitted nicely together" thus in a letter published by a major Athens newspaper, the 25th March 2000, Dionysios Solomos was fingerpointed as the murder instigator of the lawyer I. D. Cochini(!!!), his brother Rev Nicolaos, terrorized by the event, compromised to be enthroned etc.

Note 2 He writes that Ioannis and wife had the following five children to then list and names nine, the last born 1838..

Note 3. Ragabe gives his full name as Dimitri Dion.Cochini only. The source of "-Giacommo" is the Mercati archive at the Heraldic Society of Athens.

[yanni]

Part 2

Combining data by D.Conomos and E.R.Ragabe(Note 4), the only listed Cochini able to fill "Cochino's" doublefaced shoes is indeed Ioannis Dionysiou Cochini, the judge MP declaring his readiness to leave Zante in 1836!

If his name is translated into french, if one goes searching the net for a Jean+Denys+ Cochin, if "law" is "droit" in french, if wealth and power was then a motive, if the main culprits had money to spare as from 1826(Note 5) and "documents" (Saint Germain's files and property titles) to exchange for positions of authority in the mayfirster society of post napoleonic Paris .....

....then...

....out pops the charitable founder of the Cochin hospital in Paris , Jean Denys Cochin (1789-1841) fullfilling all requirements, justifying Ragabe's mistake re his number of children (Note 6) and getting ready to be sanctified!

The limited biographical data provided for Jean Denys, born 1789, fully tally otherwise (note 7) those of Ioannis Dionysiou including the early loss of his legitimate wife thus justifying Ragabe's "mistake" re his next four children. The french site's own mistake about his "son Jacques succeeding him as mayor of the 12th district of Paris in 1825(!)", a position their father had at some unknown time, justifies the frequent absence of Jean's brother, Dimitrio-Giacomo Cochini, from Zante and as such his "loss of touch", post 1828, with his friend Dionysios Salomon.

The mercers had the upper hand, 1835, in Zante

...talking strange tonques, bits of their story, enough to read "WE", two letters, blessed be simplicity, you think, but maybe wrong...,

Their descendant, baron Denys Cochin, was France's deputy minister of foreign affairs responsible for the "Eastern question" in 1922!

They still have all the cards, all the answers and all the elements to handle diplomaticaly a difficult case, silk clothing (μεταξωτά βρακιά) included.

THE END.

Note 4. Contrary to Ragabe, Dinos Conomos is widely accepted by greek historians as a solid source

Note 5 after the death of count Stefano Messala and before the estate was transferred.

Note 6 See http://www.silapedagogie.com/les_salles_d.htm)

Note 7 Born 1794 per Ragabe: The hand of bishop Nicolaos can be seen here fixing the birthdate of his senior brother.

(Bibliography to follow)

[Walter]

Just imagine that.

[yanni]

Bibliography
(by author when applicable)

A. Published in greek
1. Anogiatis- Pele Dim: Eksi gallika ypomnimata gia ta eptanisa (1798-1809), Corfu 1993
2. Aliberti Sot Iroides tis ellinikis epanastaseos (photocopies)
3. Bastias Costis:. Bouboulina, Athens 1944.
4. Bogadnopoulos Dim. Filiki Etaireia, B edition, Patrai
5. Capadochos Dim: O Solomos desmios tou nomikou kthestots tis epohis tou, Athens 1992.
6. Cararas Nik.: Bornova, Athens 1956
7. Conomos D: Zakynthinoi filikoi , Athens 1966
8. : Ecclesiastica, Athens 1987
9. : Zakynthos, 500 chronia 1478-1978, Political History, Athens 1981-1986
10. : To zakynthino raso stin ethnegersia, Athens 1971
11. :Anekdota keimena of the greek fight for indepencence , Athens 1966
12. : O Martinegos, Athens 1976
13. Cleanthi Fani: I Elliniki Smyrne, Athens 1995
14. Chrysicopoulos Gian. Etos Dion.Solomou, Anamnistiki Ekdosi, Zante township., 1998
15. De Jassaud:Hydra, Spetsie,Poro et Ipsera en 1808.Β.Ι.Μ 126 Athens 1978
16. Encyclopedia: Ilios
17. Enosis Smyrnaion: Mikrasiatika Chronica .
18. Exarchos G. Rigas Belenstinlis, Athens 1998
19. Everet Eduard: Selides Imerologiou 1819 Athens 1996
20. Fotakou: Apomnimonaumata peri tis ell.epanastaseos, Athens 1960
21. Fotiadis Dim: Karaiskakis, Athens 1987
22. : Mesologgi, Athens 1987
23. : Kanaris, Athens Athens 1987
24. Grece Michel de: Napoleon, Athens 1996
25. :Bouboulina, Athens 1993
26. Graviere, Ed.Jurien, de la:Istoria ton agonon to ellinon gia tin anexartisia 1821-1833, Athens 1988
27. Grigoriou E.Th.:O Nikitaras, Athens 1942 .
28. Genadeios Vivliothiki: Imerologia Nautikou Agonos, deiktis 400
29. Holland Henry: Taxidia sta Ionia Nisia, Ipeiro, Alvania (1812-13), Arthens 1989
30. Hatjianargirou: Spetsiotika (photocopies)
31. Heraldic Society of Athens: Deltio 7, 1988
32. Deltio 11, 2001
33. Kefalliniadi: Mnimes apo tin Anatoli, Athens 1988
34. Konsta K.S: Istorika eggrafa mesologgiton tis exodou, Athens 1968
35. Koukou Eleni: Ioannis Capodistrias, the man, tghe diplomat Athens 2001
36. : I.A.Capodistrias Roxandra S.Stourza Athens 2000
37. Krantonelli Alex:. Elliniki peirateia kai koursos ton ih aiona etc Athens 1998
38. Loukas Ioan: Istoria tis ellinikis masonias, kai ellinki istoria Athens 1991.
39. Luntzi Nik-Robert Sargint: I Zakynthos kapote, Athens 1990.
40. : Sto Ionio Liberta, Athens 1991
41. Lut Christiana: Mia Danesa stin avli tou Othona, Athens 1988
42. Makrigianni: Apomnimonaumata, Epimeleia I.Vlaxogianni
43. Marshand L: Lordou Virona Epistoles apo tin Ellada, 1809-1811&1823-1824, Athens 1996
44. Mavriderou Dim: Ydraio meli tis filikis etaireias, Athens 1995
45. Melas Sp.: O navarhos Miaoulis, Athens 1932
46. : O geros tou Moria, Athens 1931 .
47. Ntoulis P.D :i protoi ellines tehnikoi epistimones periodou apeleftheroseos, publ by TEE, Athens 1976.
48. Palaion Patron Germ: Apomnimoneumata, Athens 1996
49. Papasotiriou Char. O agonas gia tin elliniki anexartisia, Athens 1996
50. Procopiou Socr.: Sergiani stin palia Smyrne (B editition) Athens 1949
51. Ragabe E.R: Le Lvre d'or de la noblesse Ionienne, Athens 1927 (photocopies)
52. Rodakis Per.: O Alexandroa Ipsilantis kai oi filikoi, Athens 1996
53. Sahtouri Geor: I I istoria tou nautikou agonos, B.I.Melteton 101, 1880
54. Tsamadou Ant: Istoriko Imerologio ton ellinikon navmachion 1821 B.I.Meleton , 118, 1886
55. Trelawney Ed.: Anamniseis tis Ellinikis Epanastaseos B.I.M 112
56. Varfis Kostos: Venetotourkikoi kai rossotourkikoi polemoi stis elliniks thallases 1453-1821, Vournas Tasos: Istoria this Neoteris Ellados, Athens 1974
57. Ydras archeio tis koinotitas: Athens 1960-`66 (photocopies)
58. Zourdou-Leousi F: Evretirio archeiou tis koinotitas Ydras, K.N.E E.I.E 40, Athens 1991

B:Other languages:
1. Anogiatis- Pele Dim: Inventaire de la correspondence des consuls francais a Zante (1670-1859) etc, Corfu 1997
2. Bigland Eileen: Lord Byron, London 1956
3.Bonfort Paul: Famille Bonfort Genealogie (privately published for family use)
4. Codrigton: Piracy in the Levant, 1827-8.Navy Records Society, London 1934.
5.Wendy Hinde: George Canning (1770-1827)

C. Other books and online publications used for "Poe's Announcement" were normally referred or quoted extracts were printed in italics otherwise.

[Walter]

Truly awesome!
But, still, the short summary? :crash:

[yanni]

Tell me first why you labeled the web a drain and yourself a plug, Walter.

[yanni]

In other words, Walter, what makes you think that if a summary of The Announcement is provided, it will not "go down the drain" as you say?

...and, what makes you think that such "drain" (obviously including Poe and his work until now), is more unpleasant than yours?

Please tell me, I am really curious!

[Walter]

Well, now you know what curiosity is.

[yanni]

Save Edgar!

[yanni]

The first "official" recognition of the Announcement and its contents comes from France:

At terresdecrivains.com/ROUSSEAU.html the site publishes following November 2006 comment by "Yanni":

"Mme d’Epinay’s lover appearing as her children’s tutor (percepteur) in 1748 was Gioachino Cocchi, aka (1756) Augustin Henry Cochin, aka Le comte Saint Germain.
He is the father of their Angelique as well as the father of "enlightment" along with Charles Nicholas Cochin and the rest of les Cochins-Causssins-Caccinis-Cassini etc.
Dont’s hide it please.
Regards from Greece"

As the good site further specifies, for viewer comments to be published, they first have to be validated by the administrator.


Thank you JJ, thank you France!

[yanni]

20000 views , 21X5 stars, thanks.

Before we part....

"Walter" asked for a definition and a "s-h-o-r-t" summary be provided.

Definition:
The Announcement is the conclusion of an experiment to prove if genes somehow record experiences and if such are then carried to future generations, inherited as "dormant" memories along with other characteristics.

Walter's Summary:
Apparently St Germain, using Edgar as his herald and yourstruly as interpreter and carrier, returned via the web after six generations (not three as impostors claimed) to present gifts all around and settle his own affairs.

His gifts may take some time to be appreciated, recipients may or may not recognize their value at first, up to them really, not for the interpreter to say/

Having examined and appreciated his own gift however, "Yanni the greek" wishes to conclude his work as follows:

"He diluted the strength of the marvelous in his stories," said his friend Gleichen, "according to the receptivity of his hearer. When he was telling a fool some event of the time of Charles V, he informed him quite crudely that he had been present. But when he spoke to somebody less credulous, he contented himself with describing the smallest circumstances, the faces and gestures of the speakers, the room and the part of it they were in, with such vivacity and in such detail that his hearers received the impression that he had actually been present at the scene. 'These fools of Parisians,' he said to me one day, 'believe that I am five hundred years old. I confirm them in this idea because I see that it gives them much pleasure -- not that I am not infinitely older than I appear.'"

Bye "Logos", thanks for your hospitality.

Bye Tis, Bye Legrand,

Bye Edgar,

Bye all.

Good luck!

[Walter]

Walter's Summary:
Apparently St Germain, using Edgar as his herald and yourstruly as interpreter and carrier, returned via the web after six generations (not three as impostors claimed) to present gifts all around and settle his own affairs.


Not so. That is your summary, not mine.

[don basilio]

My dear friends,

I just happen to deal with this very family of Zante, that is the counts Foscardi. There was indeed a certain President of the Stati Juniti dell Isole Jionj -Republica Settinslulare is not any more, dear yianni- BUT:

-His given name was Demetrio (Demetrios), the last born son of conte Niccoleto Foscardi.

-He heald his office, elected by the Ionian Senate -and not appointed by the 'brits' - during the III Ionian Parliament, that is from 1828 till the August 31st of 1830, when he resigned on health reasons. Thus, he was non in position by 1831 as yianni claims to 'help' Dionisio Salamon, and

-Demetrio and Dionisio were nothing but friends. The poet writes to his friend Ioannis Galbanis on May 20th 1830 s.n. that: “non abbi il piacere di averlo amico” (I do not have the pleasure to have him as a friend). This possibly would change in the future, BUT Demetrio soon became incapable by febre celebrale, a decease that soon made him totally invalid.

Sources: Don Basilio can provide them to any interested reader.

Please, stop missinforming on those sensitive matters. It is enough. Let's go on with discent data, signiori.

[yanni]

Caro "Don Basilio"

You are quite right, it was a Dimitrio-not "Dionysio" as wrongly stated by Yanni, not his sources- N.Foscardi president of your "Stati Juniti dell Isole Jionj" 1828- 1830.

As to his "appontment by the brits" and his "friendship" with Dionysios Salomon however here is the story:

Sources (D.Conomos and Dim.Capadochos) agree that Dimitrio N. Foscardi, along with Dionisio Voultzo(Dionysios Salomon's friend) and Franzesco Muzza(one of the executors of Count Salomon's will of 1808), persuaded by prince Antonio Comuto, were the first four members of Zante's nobility who joined ranks with the british high commissioner, Maitland, thus gaining his support. Maitland then created, for them and their followers, the Order of Saints Michael and George, decorated them accordingly and, by his decree of January the 7th, 1817, he notified the "popolo" that he appointed Dimitrio Foscardi and Dionysio Voultzo as the two Zante members of the new assembly of Ionian lawmakers.under Emm.Theotoki.

As already stated, the commissioner was the highest authority of the "Stati Juniti etc": No decision of the Ionian parliament (or the ballot) would pass without his approval.

Re their "friendship":

There may be all sorts of "friendships" and (as from 1826) Dionysio Salomon was a wealthy man. In Corfu as from late 1828, he passed over to the probrit party then and spent next a fortune making "friends" or "contacts" there to get his "bastard" decree approved by the Ionian Parliament. Sources do not disclose the exact date this happened, mentioning only "the decree was approved by the lawmaker assembly of 1831 and 1832.

The fact that Dim.Foscardi withdrew from active duty August 1830, does not mean he was not "contacted" until then, Salomon's May 1830 letter to Galvani indicatory of the fact he was, at least, trying until then.

Was Dimitri Foscardi in "friendly terms" with Dion Salomon otherwise?

Indeed he was: They had both joined (according to D.Conomos quoting Georgios Verykios and Dion.Romas, page 38 book 3) the greek "society of friends" by 1821, D.Foscardi possibl acting as a double agent for the brits (Romas).

Lastly:

What Dimitrio N.Foscardi did or did not do is really immaterial for this thread, the main issues and characters being other, yet I can understand your sensitivity concerning your ancestors(?).

Please understand in return mine and either....

...honour me with your comments re Concino Concini, Gioachino Cocchi (victims of gross "missinformation" by italian historians) and the Zante Cochin "mercers", the last surely included in your files, ....

....or..

....share at least their silence in "discency".

My regards .

[yanni]

Thank you Logos for unlocking this thread as requested.

Don Basilio-or other history and literature scholars-should not be deprived the chance to dispute the contents of "The Poe Announcement".

Regards

"Yanni" ie Antonios Emm. Kokkinis, Athens, Greece.

[yanni]

The following two recent findings (web) show that Jean d'Anastasy or d'Athanasi did not use an alias when first(1813?) employed at the british consulate in Cairo and that, by 1818, he was living there "with family" holding the position of "british chancellor"

1.Extract from "Narrative of the Operations and Recent Discoveries Within the Pyramids by Giovanni Battista Belzoni
... - Page 139
As to Mrs. Belzoni, I left her at Cairo, in the family of Mr. Cochini, the British
chancellor; and when all was ready, we took leave of the consul and Mr. ...
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2, Extract from"Rivista di archeologia cristiana
by Pontificio Istituto di archeologia cristiana, Catholic Church Pontificia Commissio de Sacra Archaeologia - Christian antiquities - 1924"
-page 296-

Cairo 21 April 1818
segnato G.Cochini cancelliere



An interpretation of this finding will shortly be presented, propably together with Yanni's long promised biography.

Greetings.

[yanni]

New find #3

"Io sono Cochini, fui qui alle quatro de noche, 1868"

...was (now removed) his inscription on Cheffren's pyramide at the time when the Cairo Opera was being built to host Verdi's first Aida there in 1871.

http://www.sahara.it/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3895&page=15&PHPSESSID=020d6b90cf92160ec0154a64d91a9509

....the forum administrator (who published this info) further comments

Questo ZH ha intenzionalmente cancellato di colpo 200 anni di storia, cosa si pu&#242; aggiungere d'altro...?

Growing old, our "Yanni" decided to drop his false "G." but is misspelling "notte" (=night in italian).

His mother tonque was french afterall.

[yanni]

Some thoughts:

If "Yanni's " family name (and face) was known to Drovetti, Belzoni, Bankes, Finati and to other "travellers" under the british Ministry of Foreign affairs ...

If, today, "Rome" puts such info on the web and an italian aegyptology scholar places "Cochini" alongside Belzoni and goes as far as to describe the sacriligious (recent!) removal of their Cheffren wall writings (by the "egyptians"!) as "destruction of the last two centuries of history"....

....then..

...final conclusions re "Yanni's" true identity-and relative unanimous concealment-can be drawn.

"Yanni d'Anastasy or d'Athanasy" turns out indeed to have been a Cochini (a variation of rather) BUT NOT, finally, a "Yanni, Giovanni or Jean", nor a "d'Anastasy-d'Athanasy di Lazaro" either:.

These "immortality" names were suspect as false long before this thread started (while researching , 1996-98, the hydrian Cochini), "Lazarou" becoming a family name localy, the suspicion strengthening when their links to the "immortal" Saint Germain were next discovered and confirmed again later, when their religious arts and talents were traced in almost all christian variations globaly.

Hints have already been made here with regard to their "apparent" links to the de Percevals and de Valbelles, but their true "french" identities could not be really "made" until now for reasons of lack of, or contradictory evidence as well as difficutly in 'interpreting" their conflicting actions, particularly after 1826 ("d'Anastasi's consul of Sweden" appoinmment) and 1835 ("Anastasy's assisination" while "D'Athanasy" is in London).

The greatest obstacle to Yanni's final identification however was himself who, togetehr with his french and british associates (Etienne Bonfort and J.G.Wilkinson) after staging "D'Athanasy's" London "death" in 1854, then organised, in a similar manner, the death of his "D'Anastasy" persona.

Focusing on the latter:

In their family history booklet (see previous Bibliography) the Bonforts do admit to a Cochini great grand mother at the top of their family tree, but fail to mention that she was Lazaro C's daughter (ie Yanni's aunt) also "ommiting" at the same time that Jean D'Anastasy, Etienne's "most respected friend and associate", was himself a Cochini, ie they provide, till today, a cover for him. .

The following extract from their book....

Qu'en Juillet 1860, une aissance certaine, lui-Etienne Bonfort- permet avec deux amis, MM J.d’Anastasy et le banquier Valencin et par parts egales, de couvrir a eux trois la totalite d’un emprunt de 4000000 de piastres, soit environ 20.000.000 de francs a 1&#37; le mois de la Daiva de S.A Moustaffa Pacha. (Bonfort family booklet)

...when read together with the contents of a letter concerning the "late Yanni d'Athanasi's" Gurna house (now famous) and its fate....


15th June 1860
On the subject on the house at Thebes once inhabited by Giovanni d'Athanasy, or as he was generally called "Yanni", who was until Mr Salt's death in his employ, I can positively state that (if) any claim is put forward by the french or the greek consulates for its possession it is entirely groundless.... I know that Yanni never, either in Egypt or in England, put forth any claim to it, and as he did all his power to raise money on everything he possessed it is very evident from his not attempting to do this on the house in question that he had no claim to it.He was assisted with money by several gentlemen in England, who had known him in Egypt when in Mr Salt's employ, and among the number myself, but particularly by Mr Hay who contributed very liberally to his support until at last having made further unwise speculations he ended his days in a London workhouse. (Letter by J.G.Wilkinson to Reverand -aegyptologist etc William Frankland Hood. Bodleian library, Oxford

....raises questions as well as eyebrows, even if, in the meantime, "London" has silently conceded to "Leyden's" version of one and only Yanni-owner of the Gurna house , ie "D'Athanasy" being the same as "D'Anastasy" (who died 1860 according to info received(!) and published by "Leyden", now on the web!!) all with yourtruly's help!

This made matters even worst for the Bonforts in fact (who appear to be going into partnership with "their Yanni" just in the grave) who shorlty after return to Paris where Etienne died wealthy, 1864, while his wife Mariette, a close friend of Yanni to, then trusted a Mr A.Sinano, an important businessman related to the above banquiere Valencin, to handle her affairs in Egypt. (She passed away the 30th June 1890 and was burried next to Etienne, in Marseille)

Luckily this misunderstanding (my apologies to the Bonforts!) has now been cleared and Yanni's true identity, portrait and a short biographic outline will be the subject of the next post:.

"Who was Yanni d'Anastasi, d'Athanasi, Avanassiev etc(*)?"

Footnote * In London, 1837, at the auction of the major part of his collection at Sotheby's promoted by J.G.Wilkinson, D'Athanasy was "temporarily reidentified" as "Papandriopoulos"!!!

[yanni]

Armand Pierre de Perceval (1795-1871) , son of Jean Jacques Antoine Caussin de Perceval (1760-1835).

Web information re Armand's (or his father's) biography does not practicaly exist...

....with one exception:

The question mark in relevant (#18-19) footnotes of:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_professeurs_au_Coll&#37;C3%A8ge_de_France
...where an uneasiness re the details of Armand's appointment as Professor of the arabic language in the College de France in 1822, allegedly replacing his father "Pr&#233;sident de 1830 &#224; 1833" is thus expressed.

copypaste from foot note :
Suppl&#233;ant de son p&#232;re de 1822 (?)

See his portrait at
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Armand_Pierre_Caussin_de_Perceval.jpg
(of notice the extended middle finger of his right hand, pointing downwards: A believer in trade unionism and free association in trade, a sign of Saturn or of Saint Jean-Evangeliste? Perhaps all three in a package!)

Armand was, allegedly*, Edgar's hero and it's time for us to slightly modify our previous interpretation of the "Assignation"(1834 January) or "Visionary" of previous posts 55, 56 hereinabove

Next post: Prince Mentoni

Footnote*:
There was also a "Caussin de Perceval, president of the court of appeals of Montpelier, 1852-1855". His exact relation to Armand is unknown, however one should be carefull with words with so many lawyers in the family. Thus: "allegedly"

[yanni]

Part 1
1816 September. Paris. The Supreme Grand Council of the Rite of Misraim....requested that the Rite be placed within the jurisdiction of the Grand Orient.....This was at first considered favorable by the Grand Orient, but they later-(?) -reversed their decision and rejected the offer.
1834 January. Poe's "The Assignation", John Madox's "Excursions in the Holy Land, Egypt, Nubia, Syria, Etc" published.
1836 September. Lyons. J. E. Marconis founds Lodge of Benevolence of the Rite of Misraim under his nickname of de Negre....(http://www.antiqillum.org/texts/tl/TLSix-013.htm
see also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rite_of_Memphis-Misraim)


The Visionary

Stay for me there! I will not fail
To meet thee in that hollow vale.
[Exequy on the death of his wife, by Henry King, Bishop of Chichester.]

ILL-FATED and mysterious man! --bewildered in the brilliancy of
thine own and fallen in the flames of thine own youth! Again in
fancy I behold thee! Once more thy form hath risen before me! --not
--oh not as thou art --in the cold valley and shadow --but as thou
shouldst be --squandering away a life of magnificent meditation in
that city of dim visions, thine own Venice --which is a star-beloved
Elysium of the sea, and the wide windows of whose Palladian palaces
look down with a deep and bitter meaning upon the secrets of her
silent waters. Yes! I repeat it-as thou shouldst be. There are
surely other worlds than this --other thoughts than the thoughts of
the multitude --other speculations than the speculations of the
sophist. Who then shall call thy conduct into question? who blame thee
for thy visionary hours, or denounce those occupations as a wasting
away of life, which were but the overflowings of thine everlasting
energies?

Introducing thus his tale, Edgar has two distinctly different messages for his friends, Angelica Palli and "Yanni" de Perceval, ex "high priests" of the Rite and ex keepers of its holy secrets (inherited from Saint Germain and family) who, in the meantime, have abandoned their "faith" and broke up their relationship, Angelica beginning a new relationship, Yanni selling the "jewels" to the highset bidder.

In a gentlemanly fashion, Edgar assures Angelica he is about to follow her to oblivion. He has another message however to give to "Yanni", beginning as above, by his expression of regret and surprise to the road Yanni has taken, and continuing in the main text of the tale that follows.
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Of the five characters of the tale itself , only two really survive: The author- narrator (Edgar) and Mentoni(main recipient of the message), Mr X and marquesa Aphrodite killing themselves, the child "carried" away by Mentoni.

Why "Mentoni"?

The name was not randomly selected : Armand Pierre-"Yanni" was the ex mentor of his late brother William Henry (whose steps and dream Edgar followed, breaking his ties with John Allen to wake up, 1833, broke and angry). Edgar's "Yanni" had turned in the meantime to a menthe (otherwise "balsam", base for many perfumes) perfumed "menteur" (french for liar) and had conceded to the Rite's revival under Marconi. "Mentoni" is thus a symbolic synthesis of all these words.

The Visionary's tale continues, as above, as an open letter to Mentoni-"Yanni"-Armand-Pierre who, as Edgar by then knows, has returned to France along with other members of the family to prosper and become again one of the pillars of the "new" society.
(A-P returned to Paris, around 1832-1833, was appointed professor of arabique, propably replacing his father Perceval senior, president of the College in 1830, ie before Lafayette's coup against the King.
Of interest their hometown,Montdidier, belonging once to their ancestor Concino, a fact M.Baillet, Montdidier's historian , fails to mention.)

Continued....

[yanni]

Part 2

The "child" is firstly a metaphor for the "precious secret", the rite they were promoting with Angelica Palli, a secret known to Edgar through his brother (whose work and diary he has inherited and studied in the meantime) and secondly a reminder (to A-P) of William Henry, a Cochini, saved "then in Greece at sea" by "Saint Germain" A-P (a Cochini to), ex father of the "child" and "thou shouldst be-but aren't":

"YOU, impersonator of Saint Germain, my brother died for the cause" says Edgar.

Aphrodite, the godess of love, "mother of the child", is hysterical at the time for the imminent danger, not for loosing the "child", but of imprisonment:

Yet --strange to say! --her large lustrous
eyes were....-but riveted in a widely different direction! The
prison of the Old Republic....how could that lady gaze so fixedly upon it, when beneath her lay stifling her only child?

....while Mentoni, well protected by THE "arch"....

Many steps above the Marchesa, and within the arch of the
water-gate, stood, in full dress, the Satyr-like figure of Mentoni
himself. He was occasionally occupied in thrumming a guitar, and
seemed ennuye to the very death, as at intervals he gave directions
for the recovery of his child.

....takes the child away (from his other persona) leaving the marquesa alone with the author ("Saint Germain" propably drying himself at the time):.

Alas! another's arms have taken it from the stranger --another's arms have taken it
away, and borne it afar off, unnoticed, into the palace! whole the marquesa

The unreachable marquesa-high priestess, a holy "statue" until then, cries...

Marchesa! Her lip --her beautiful lip trembles: tears are gathering in
her eyes --those eyes which, like Pliny's acanthus, are "soft and
almost liquid." Yes! tears are gathering in those eyes-and see! the
entire woman thrills throughout the soul, and the statue has started
into life!.

....and blushes having exposed herself(*1) to the public view....

Why should that lady blush! To this demand there is no answer
--except that, having left, in the eager haste and terror of a
mother's heart, the privacy of her own boudoir, she has neglected to
enthrall her tiny feet in their slippers, and utterly forgotten to
throw over her Venetian shoulders that drapery which is their due.
What other possible reason could there have been for her so
blushing? --for the glance of those wild appealing eyes? for the
unusual tumult of that throbbing bosom? --for the convulsive
pressure of that trembling hand? --that hand which fell, as Mentoni
turned into the palace, accidentally, upon the hand of the stranger.

..thus promising the know all-have nothing author ....

What reason could there have been for the low --the singularly low
tone of those unmeaning words which the lady uttered hurriedly in
bidding him adieu? "Thou hast conquered --" she said, or the murmurs
of the water deceived me-"thou hast conquered --one hour after sunrise
--we shall meet --so let it be!"

....a promise "they" did not keep, selecting to "kill" their previous personae, thus fooling Edgar once again etc.

The main "message" therefore of the author of The Visionary to the recipient Armand Pierre Caussin de Perceval is :

I know your "truth" and you better do something about it or....


*1:Back in 1826 "William Townsend Washington" (In the Nov 2007 version of the Poe family in Wikipedia the Poe Society admits the existence of both a William as well as a George Washington Poe, alleged sons of David Poe Sr or perhaps Jr) had the opportunity to enjoy the hospitality of Angelica, "Yanni" running away to their "Gullistan " leaving "Ianthe" behind this time.

[yanni]

Forword
The revelation that insignificant Yanni d'Anastasi was an alias for well known professor in arabic and author A.P. Caussin de Perceval (jr)- a life long "agent" as well-neccessitated the previous revision to the original interpretation of "The Assignment" herein while making the story more plausible for the average reader.

Poe enthusiasts on the other hand may still be questioning Edgar's "character flaws" revealed by "Prince Mentoni": To accomodate them in particular, Edgar whereabouts and works, 1831-1835, were revised, thus this chapter.
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Part 1.
Very similar to "The Assignment" is Edgar's next tale, the seemingly macabre Berenice.

"Seemingly" because, when seen from the right perspective, the tale is simply ironic, provocative, daring and humorous.

The ancient greek port of Berenice on the Red Sea was allegedly discovered , late 1818, by Belzoni who, with his 16 camels, crossed the desert east of the Nile following the old road with the water holes.
Belzoni was acting then as a contractor for Henri Salt and under the supervision of "Yanni and family".
(ie directions were provided possibly by Caussin de Perceval senior)

As seen earlier "John Madox came to Egypt on August 1823 as "a traveller". Upon receiving him, Henry Salt then placed him to the care of Yanni in whose house at Gourna Madox stayed, using it as a base to visit Thebes and Luxor etc, from late 1823. Early 1824 Madox crossed , for some reason or other, the desert east of the Nile and reached the Red Sea wherefrom, on the 14th of March 1824, he returned to Gurna accompanied by a "young Quaker, John Fowler Hull" (page 221). The two then stayed with Yanni with the rebelion brewing all around that resulted, the next day, in the killing of 17 of Yanni's guards as previously described" (D.Manley's, P.Ree's "Henry Salt").

Based on Al Aaraaf's contents,the date and duties of Guillelmos Cochini, agent of Memmet Ali in Zante May the 23th, 1823 (one record only), John Allen' duties onboard a Cochini vessel until 1824 and "William Wilson's" Caussin-Cassin identity ...

....the assumption was made earlier on that "John Fowler Hull" and the orphan adopted by the late captain William Henry Allen (the capture of "The Macedonian") ie William Henry Caussin later aka (later) William "Henry Leonard Poe" aka "George or William Townsend Washington" (found floating 30th November1824, off Porto Keri, Zante) were all one and the same person.

"Berenice" confirms this assumption providing also the identity of the main hero of the tale "Egaus" (Aegaeus gave the name to the Aegean sea) who is none other than the same "ILL-FATED and mysterious man! Prince-Mentoni" of The Assignement, Armand Pierre Caussin de Perceval who "should better listen", once more, to his friend Edgar....

"Dicebant mihi sodales, si sepulchrum amicae visitarem, curas meas aliquantulum forelevatas."

....describing first his hero's (Egaus) 1833 "situation" as follows:


MISERY is manifold. The wretchedness of earth is multiform. Overreaching the wide horizon as the rainbow, its hues are as various as the hues of that arch - as distinct too, yet as intimately blended. Overreaching the wide horizon as the rainbow! How is it that from beauty I have derived a type of unloveliness? - from the covenant of peace, a simile of sorrow? But as, in ethics, evil is a consequence of good, so, in fact, out of joy is sorrow born. Either the memory of past bliss is the anguish of to-day, or the agonies which are, have their origin in the ecstasies which might have been .

.....and his family next:.

".....has been called a race of visionaries; and in many striking particulars ......but more especially in the gallery of antique paintings - in the fashion of the library chamber - and, lastly, in the very peculiar nature of the library's contents"

After describing "Egaus's" noble birth, palaces, exceptional library, vast knowledge, character peculiarities, religious anxieities and ties to THE arch (again) Edgar introduces Berenice, Egaus's cousin:

*Berenice and I were cousins, and we grew up together in my paternal halls. Yet differently we grew - I, ill of health, and buried in gloom - she, agile, graceful, and overflowing with energy; hers, the ramble on the hill-side - mine the studies of the cloister; I, living within my own heart, and addicted, body and soul, to the most intense and painful meditation - she, roaming carelessly through life, with no thought of the shadows in her path, or the silent flight of the raven-winged hours

....linking her next to the actual ancient town

"Thus it will appear that, shaken from its balance only by trivial things, my reason bore resemblance to that ocean-crag spoken of by Ptolemy Hephestion, which steadily resisting the attacks of human violence, and the fiercer fury of the waters and the winds trembled only to the touch of the flower called Asphodel. And although, to a careless thinker, it might......"

(continued in Part 2 following)

[yanni]

Part 2

"Thus it will appear that, shaken from its balance only by trivial things, my reason bore resemblance to that ocean-crag spoken of by Ptolemy Hephestion, which steadily resisting the attacks of human violence, and the fiercer fury of the waters and the winds trembled only to the touch of the flower called Asphodel. And although, to a careless thinker, it might......"

There is no doubt that by "that ocean- crag" Edgar meant the port town whose buildings were made of shelly limestone. But how and why should the ancient port tremble to the touch of the Asphodel, Elysium's immortal flower, why is Berenice the "cousin" related by the author to the town and how did this relationship, a "tale which should not be told", turn into a disease both for her.....

And then - then all is mystery and terror, and a tale which should not be told. Disease - a fatal disease, fell like the simoon upon her frame; and, even while I gazed upon her, the spirit of change swept over her, pervading her mind, her habits, and her character, and, in a manner the most subtle and terrible, disturbing even the identity of her person! Alas! the destroyer came and went! - and the victim -where is she? I knew her not - or knew her no longer as Berenice.

....and for Egaus ?

True to its own character, my disorder revelled in the less important but more startling changes wrought in the physical frame of Berenice - in the singular and most appalling distortion of her personal identity.
During the brightest days of her unparalleled beauty, most surely I had never loved her. In the strange anomaly of my existence, feelings with me, had never been of the heart, and my passions always were of the mind.

"Berenice" the cousin (and the town William Cochini, Edgar's "brother" visited with John Madox) means "victory" in ancient greek, rather the person who would deliver it, and the public message Edgar addresses to Armand Pierra Caussin-Egaus is the same as the one he addressed previously to "Prince Mentoni":

Under "the victory lost because of YOU" blame, Edgar, yet again, hides the same second message as before, the reminder to Armand Pierre that "my brother, your cousin, died for a cause you never really believed in, the formation of a new and independent Greece and you better...etc".

The spade, the box with the dentist's instruments, the teeth-ideas and the barely resurrected, still enshrouded ,corpse of Berenice-a toothless "Victory" (Edgar's shrilled voiced, ear piercing Lygeia,. the corpse of the Baltimore American Museum, September 18, 1838) is the result of Egaus-Armand's "mental disorder" to concentrate on the frivolous (including typography) detail, losing the essence and philosophic principle of Elysium's eternal flower, the asphodel (also meaning brotherhood,adelphos= brother in grk, hence Philadelphia etc):

....like the spirit of a departed sound, the shrill and piercing shriek of a female voice seemed to be ringing in my ears. I had done a deed - what was it? I asked myself the question aloud, and the whispering echoes of the chamber answered me, - " what was it? "

....and Edgar repeats, in conclusion, his introductory message to Armand by.....

.... the singular but simple ones (words) of the poet Ebn Zaiat: - " Dicebant mihi sodales si sepulchrum amicae visitarem, curas meas aliquantulum fore levatas ."
(My friends were telling me that my burdens would be made lighter if I visited the grave of my beloved)

A reminder meant to "petrify" Armand-Pierre .....

Why then, as I perused them, did the hairs of my head erect themselves on end, and the blood of my body become congealed within my veins?

"A penny for my thoughts-and mutual secrets-brother!" is Edgar saying "I hold Wilhelmus Cochini's diary and know, at last, all about you from John Allen and "Pocasin" too"!

Of particular interest:

Even if John Allen's paternal feelings towards Edgar had diminished after Al AAraaf's publication, his interest re the mental state of his brother's (captain William H.Allen) adoptee had not, thus, as the frigates delivery fiasco was developing, he became truly anxious to learn how his health was. Edgar played along and complied, by his letter of August the 10th 1829, advising him that Henry was "entirely given up to drink and unable to help himself". William Henry died 1831, John Allen then- allegedly-staged his death in Richmond, March 1834 and Edgar provided a cover for him -see letter: Edgar Allan Poe to William Poe - August 20, 1835. )

Edgar and John Allen(footnote*1) were threatening Armand not to proceed with litigation to claim damages from the US sshipyards for not fulfilling their contractual obligations re the greek frigates order.

Considering the above, Edgar's testimony on the eventual "bilateral patriotism" of "Mentoni-Egaus" , appears rather biased and cannot be considered "solid evidence" but...

....when "read" together with Caussin de Perceval senior's -allegedly- tragic end, then indeed our Yanni-Armand d'Anastasi ,the "free trade" prophet with the impressive middle finger, has some further explaining to do.....

Footnote *1:

Two entries, just discovered in Hydra's archive (namelist) on John Allen will not be looked up by yourstruly. Poe "enthusiasts" however may check "Allen" (book I page 135) and "Allen John" (IA, p 461)!

[yanni]

The Announcement has apparently revived public interest on Edgar's "visionary" Cochini family: By his article of August 07, Mr Schwartzapfel advises that an indian jewish community bought their lost Holy books by.....

".....the Torah and Talmud — were lost to them. That is, until they were “discovered” in the 1700s by a Cochini merchant who then brought them into contact with the wider Jewish world and its teachings. "

....a "Cochini merchant".

Now then, who might this strange person-yet another Caussin scroll merchant-be and how is it he popped up on yourtruly's screen as he was about to launch the last chapter on scroll-keeper Caussin de Perceval Sr and his tragic end?

Furthermore the "1700s" is much to broad a term to use for such an important transaction and....not to forget too the "peculiar contents" of the family library (quoting Edgar), "Abraxas", "deamon Walsamos" etc etc.....

Would Mr Schwartzapfel care to elaborate so that, at least, the confusion between Concino's descendents and "Cochini" jewish people be terminated?

[yanni]

..... may take their time to mature but do provide an ideal closing for this addendum.

OBVIOUSLY the "family library"-the Medici library partly "transferred" to France after Hapsburg Austria occupied Lombardy! Caussin de Perceval Sr succeeding his father in-law Bejot as guardian of the royal manuscripts collection-was used to "reshape the world" as the interests of the "Arch" dictated at the time (around 1770-1780).

Leaving history and papyrology aside however, let us return to the question "Who the victim of the 1835 Zante murder was?":

If "Yanni d'Anastasi" turns out to be Caussin de Perceval jr, then was "Yanni's" father, "victim Anastasi", the same man as Causin de Perceval sr and was the burlotiero "Lazaro Musiu" his real brother?

As undercover agents of France, the specific hydrian Cochinis may have well assumed false family relations to justify the out-of-nowhere arrival to the island of new "faces" and, as such, "Yanni" might well have been anybody else, any other frenchman who had studied arabic and greek.
There is, furthermore, ample evidence that "Musiu" lived, after 1826, and died (around 1860) a poor man in Hydra , his wife petitioning to the greek government then for a small pension and, as such, the comparison to the wealth and power of his brother de Percecal Jr is remarkable.

However, as his web biographers insist, JJ Antoine Caussin de Perceval sr did indeed die 1835 (July the 29th, in fact) in Paris(Did he really!)...
(http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Jacques_Antoine_Caussin_de_Perceval)
....and as such, he does confirm our "Anastasy 1835 Zante murder victim candidate" by his new identity as well.

IN OTHER WORDS:

The "french" Cochini-Caussins de Perceval used Hydra and Zante as intermediate "stations" in their travels to the Levant. By their relations with "locals", new families were created, kept apart however from the interests and fortunes of the "main" family in France.

The "involvement" of the Zante Cochini to the Zante murder of "Anastasy"...
-the convenient London absence of his son "Yanni" at the time..
-the untruth he coldbloodedly told Madox re the identity of the victim:
("non posso piangere, ma mia moglie e morte, e inutile di piangere") ....
-while continuing the "Yanni' d'Athanasi" lie to accomodate his british friends...
-already then a professor in arabic in the College de France.....

.....call, cry out loudly, for explanations to be provided by their descendents and other french "scholars", silence being no option!

There is no place, in this here "Purple history" at least, for roten "apfeln"!


THE END

[yanni]

Rejoice, friends, the end is nigh, of this Poe Announcement at least!

No Poe paper can considered finished without some reference to The Raven. For personal reasons, least of which language, I shall address it using a quiz type outline!

As 1981 Rice graduate Elizabeth Crook said "we call these war stories the 'horribler' stories, meaning 'My story is horribler than your story.' Everyone thinks he or she has the 'horriblest' story of all, but they don't. Because I do."

Sorry, Lizie, mine is!

The Raven Quiz

1. Is it true that "Kala'nu" in cherokee means The Raven whereas "Καλά.... νού" is a modern greek expression usually said for someone with bird-like mental capabilities? (A slow, up and down, head nod usually accompanies "Καλά.... νού" or, conditions allowing, the head may rest on the speakers's palm, Rodin's "thinker" like)
2. Why do people insist calling Edgar "Allan" Poe?
3. Why did the US congress decide, 1901, to buy the Ellis & Allan trading Co archive?
4. Is it true that Frances "Allan", Edgar's mother, died a month or so after Kala'nu's marriage to John Allen's daughter Eliza at Allenwood, Gallatin, Tennessee?
5. Is it true that another Allenwood existed in Monmouth Co, New Jersey, so named after a famous filibustering captain Sam Allen?
6. Is it true that John "Allan", Edgar's foster father and John Allen, Andrew Jackson's top lieutenant were one and the same person?
7. Is it true that there was "another" captain John Allen (Kirby) and "yet another" captain John "M." Allen (with a brother "Augustus C.", the two known as Houston town founders), all enlisted in the "Texas navy"?
8. Is it true that "peripatetic lawyer, filibusterer and land speculator" John Allen and his brother congressman Robert had their family bibles printed by Matthew Carey in Baltimore, 1808-9?
9. Is it true that Sam Houston and Galveston's first mayor, John M.Allen, were at eachother's troats 1842-1843?
10. Is it true that Sam Houston let go of Texas (having done the same to "his" wise Cherokees earlier) 1844 and that The Raven was first published immediately after?

If your answer to all the above is "Yes" and if your eyeballs have not been pecked off yet, dear reader, you should then be able to interpret Edgar's "The Raven".

Cheers!

[Walter]

Ya got me! I surrender.

[yanni]

MARRIAGES

John Allen & Laetitia Saunders
Friday, 23 December 1808

On Thursday evening Jany. 22, 1829,
Eliza H. Allen
daughter of John & Laetitia Allen
To Sam'l. Houston

(Frances Allan died on February 28, 1829, and Poe visited the day after her burial........)

[yanni]

The wise owl was the symbol of "Pallas Athene"-protectress of ancient Athens, godess of wisdom- thus, by replacing it by a raven-known to feed on dead animals and be attracted by "shiny things" thus pecking sheep's eyes off-Edgar might be simply telling us of the "major philosophical change"-see this thread for Mayfirsters vs Aprilfoolers- that greatly affected him but never really opposed,

An impeccable poem technicaly, including light-black vs pallid-and sound-placid vs the raven's silly noises- effects to further stress the contrast between "old and new values", owl and raven.

Edgar mocks the relatively recent change- "stately Raven of the saintly days of yore"-as well as himself, crying for "lost Lenore" of his youth-Concino's bride, Eleonora Calligai, "ala mode" theatrically in his time, the same character as Annabel Lee, Ianthe, Zante, Nesace and Aphrodite-contessa Mentoni, "Yanni" Caussin de Perceval's generous friend-wife. (Angelica Palli, the woman who taught Edgar to love).



Is that what The Raven is all about?

No it's not :

No poet is an island and Edgar was surely not indifferent to political events in general and to "the other raven" in particular, Sam Houston, who abandoned "independent Texas" shortly before, thus heavily "inspiring" Edgar who had personal reasons:

Readers of the Poe Announcement, aware of yourtruly's previously expressed opinion that "Tampico" John M.Allen was the same man as Edgar's foster father John Allan, will surely find of further interest the fact that John M.Allen has already been independently identified as "somehow" related-see "http://gennotes.150m.com/rallen.html inccluding a loose reference of the Tenessee Allens to Tampico- to the "Jacksonian" John Allen of Gallatin, Tenessee (his daughter Eliza's marriage to Sam Houston was the book by Elizabeth Crook, "The Raven's Bride", 1991) and his brother senator Robert Allen who, both, are seen to raise their social status and come to sudden wealth around 1824-at the time the greek frigates were ordered as seen previously!

Since 1824, Houston had been a frequent house guest of Robert Allen of Gallatin, Tennessee. ...www.larkcom.us/ancestry/Allen/reports/Sam%20Houston.pdf

Allen, John (of Tennessee)
"a peripatetic lawyer, filibusterer, and land speculator" (p105, Da Bruhl)

Brother of the congressman Robert Allen, and father-in-law of Sam Houston (see 1/22/29 -- the marriage was catastrophic and the two essentially never lived together).

(Source: mostly Da Bruhl, Sword of San Jacinto)
www.jmisc.net/BIOG-A.htm

also see

http://www.tennessee.gov/tsla/history/manuscripts/mguide10.htm
http://gennotes.150m.com/rallen.html (link to Tampico Allen)
http://dlc.lib.utk.edu/f/fa/fulltext/0935.html
http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/AA/fal22.html
http://dlc.lib.utk.edu/f/fa/fulltext/1185.html
http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.cgi?path=111891094061514

with regard to previously mentioned herein http://home.att.net/~hbridges/tidbits.htm -concerning various pending lawsuits against "Tampico" John M.Allen by Duncan McRae and Hampton LeGrand- as referring, posssibly, to Edgar's own litigation against a vivid, post "mortem", John "Allan", one must now place Sam Houston to the top of the list of eventual suitors, Houston coming out of the woods at the time, seeking to obtain his divorce. Of particular interest the town of Richmond, not connected "historicaly" to the philelhellene captain John M.Allen" but to Edgar's foster father.

Returning back to the poem:
Edgar, who had given false hopes to "Ianthe" in his youth to receive the same in return by his scary fosterfather, having in the meantime succumbed to John Allen's "allmightyness" and accepted his own "weaknesses",hopes-1840 to 1844- that Sam Houston, John Allen's dissilusioned son in law, will finally "do the job" for him, uncover John Allen and bring thus "balm" and "nepenthe" to his own troubled soul He does maintain however, at the same time, relative doubts-"Other friends have flown before- On the morrow he will leave me, as my hopes have flown before."- thus, AFTER Houston's submission to "the system" -that "bleak December" 1844- the poet admits

And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor Shall be lifted- nevermore!

[yanni]

....or better still "Αιδώς Αργείοι!"

(Part 1)

The present addendum, hopefully the last, is meant to define- clarify the somewhat clouded origins and founders of the "egyptian rite".

Older versions, still online, mostly wanted Cagliostro to be the founder, other versions however put the blame (or honour) to a mysterious Ananiah "the wise" as follows:

1747, d 'Egypte et de Malte, au travers de l'oeuvre initiatique d'illustres personnages, parmi lesquels émerge l'oeuvre du Prince de San Severo, Raimondo de Sangro, conflue à Naples une intense activité de recherche et d'étude de la Science Maçonnique de tradition égyptienne.

1782, depuis la Loge égyptienne de Zante, se propage à Venise et dans les régions limitrophes un système initiatique maçonnique qui a de très évidentes caractéristiques rituelles égyptiennes. Au cours de cette même année, Marc Bedarride, affirme que son père Gad eut la visite d'un Initié égyptien qui se nommait Ananiah le Sage, qui lui transmit la filiation et les pouvoirs de transmission d'une Tradition maçonnique provenant d'Egypte.
http://www.memphismisraim.com/francese.html

More recently, the french Wikipedia links Cagliostro to Zante (!!)-ommiting his Balsamo family name-names him however just "an indermediary of the true founder"(!!) as follows:

Grande Loge mondiale de Misraïm (GLMM) [modifier]
L'Ordre dissous en France par son dernier Grand Maître Général Emile Combet (1887-1900) a été réveillé en 2004 au sein de la GLMM qui revendique la filiation ayant pour fondement la fraternité mystique qui s’est fait connaître par l’intermédiaire du fondateur du rite de Misr ou Misraïm, le comte de Cagliostro (Île de Zante, Italie 1782 - Lyon, France 1784), qui a trouvé son origine traditionnelle en Égyptes Antique et ancienne.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouvelles_ob%C3%A9diences_ma%C3%A7onniques_fran%C3 %A7aises

Finally (and of particular interest to students of masonic history) a recent (2006!) publication titled "Activités maçonniques avec arrière-plan politique – et réciproquement – en Grèce au XIXe s" by "bro" Andréas Rizopoulos introduces a "Cassini founder" as follows:

extract:.

Il n’existe pas d’archives pour les quarante années suivants et nous trouvons la Loggia Beneficenza établie à Corfou en 1781 par patente de la Grande Loge Mère de Verona séante à Padoue. La demande de Beneficenza est datée 30 août 1781 et l'approbation est datée 13 juin 1782.8 Quelques auteurs ont affirmé que c'était la même loge mentionnée dans les années 1740 mais sans en apporter la preuve. De toute manière, la loge semble avoir travaillé un moment, jusqu'à ce que la République de Venise ait considéré comme suspectes ces “sociétés secrètes” ; la loge dut alors fermer. Pendant la même période il y avait une autre loge à Zante selon une déclaration faite par De Roma lors de la consécration de Fenice Risorta en 1815 (footnote 9).

9.Le nom de cette loge semble avoir été Filanthropia puisqu’on conserve encore des certificats avec ce nom. Selon Roma, le Vénérable Maître de cette loge était Cassini qui est mort dans 1784.http://cdlm.revues.org/document1168.html#resume.

Interpretation of this new finding (reason of Wikipedia's last modification) is absolutely essential and will soon follow.

[yanni]

Part II

Count Dionisios Romas (1771-1857, previously mentioned herein as applying, 1825, for modern Greece's british protection) was certainly "constrained diplomaticaly" 1815, his above testimony was biased and a cover for his mercer friends, the Zante Cochins, as well as his then "bros" and later relatives (see below), the Balsami.

While avoiding to link this "other lodge" to the egyptian rite, (also ommiting Cagliostro-Balsamo) and while purposely mislabeling it "Filanthropia" (grk for "Benefizensa"), he plays it safe fingerpointing at "Cassini who died 1784" as the venerable master (Cesar Francois Cassini de Thury, 1714-1784) of this very same lodge he was himself a member till then and, propably, later on as well .

This "old lodge" operated not just till 1815 (Rizopoulos-"-see http://www.zante-freemasons.gr/gr_tektonismos_ionia.php#up) but, going propably underground, went on till much later (as 1824-5 Missolonghi "Ananiah" tower indicates and as Edgar Poe testifies herein) thus even if the royal astronomer was or was not their master till 1784, the questions....

Who Ananiah the founder was?
How and when was the rite transferred "West", reaching America pre 1770?
Who authorised and monitored Giuseppe Balsamo post 1784?
....have yet to be answered!

Romas provides no explanation re Cassini's relation to Zante and there is practicaly (excepting the mathematicien Cagnoli, born Zante 1743) no such relative record online, no other BUT the Zante Cochins and the Hydra Caussins of "Poe Announcement".

They, as Russia's 1797-1807 consuls, were well aquainted with count Romas and his son,
Giorgio Candiano Romas (1798-1867),who married, around 1825-6, Orsola , sister of Anna di Giorgio Balsamo (wife, as from about 1826, of Dimitrio-Giacomo Cochini or Jaques Denis Cochin, previously mentioned as Dionisios Solomos's 1828 witness!)
(see http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/AS10053b.htm and http://www.kythera-family.net/index.php?nav=117-121&cid=193&did=5248&pageflip=4&hits=20),

Romas's "Cassini" of 1815, was therefore a safe proposition, a cover up and, at the same time, a tactfull reminder to the british protectors of his 1815 Phenice Risorta (in which Giorgio Balsamo was a "rhetor) of their older 1797 contacts with la Marquise de Cassini (born Babaud), mistress of the Prince of Conti AND MAINLY their later encounters with the US Cassin sailors, lasting till 1812.
(For mme la marquise see http://www.catnaps.org/cassini/babaud.html#mdc
and http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=5047/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=15.html)

With "Anastasy" de Perceval still "missing in action", 1815 was indeed a bad year for the truth but when things changed for the better later on in Zante....

The Cochini Zante blazon, today displayed center (in a series of other blazons) at the Dion.Salomon Museum, depicts a single snake, its body wound around a blooming Asclepius staff (a tree) its head turned towards the tree blossom: No, it's not the sign of a "blossoming" period of a doctor's history but the biblical serpent -tree of gnosis-apple combination:

This statement must now to be slighlty modified, if the existing fourty or so year vacuum(1744-84) of the masonic history of bro Andrea Rizopoulos is to be filled:

As "first italian mason on record" and father of count Saint Germain, doctor Antonio Cocchi with his Epistola ad Morgagnum de Lente Cristallina oculi IS THE definition of 19th century Ananiah "le sage": His biblical predecessor cured Saul of his blindness to then "transmit the ancient light to the nations", thus Mark Bedaridde's 1845 "mystic" testimony turns out "true" nevertheless!

Following doctor Cocchi's death, late 1750ties, and taking into consideration duties and character of son(?) Gioachino, it is highly doubtfull that he became the next venerable master of the egyptian rite, the Montdidier orientalists having already been described herein as the next propable masters (count Romas, granting them protection in 1815, provides another indication to this direction) whereas not a shred of evidence was found linking Gioachino Cocchi-"Saint Germain" to Cagliostro- Balsamo or to british secret services:

His flight from France, 1784, may well be attributed to dissapointment, danger for his life, old age and wider family interests and conflicts combined, his association with the Mizraim Rite yet unproven, his true family links and ties to the Montdidier and Marseille Caussins and the Paris-Zante Cochins , unclear (as also their relation to the Cassini-Cassins).

To conclude with "modern litterature":

To counter Edgar Allen Poe's relevant works, Alexandre Dumas, 1848, associated Edmond Dantes with comte Saint Germain AND/OR Cagliostro (as per Mme Montego' s testimony! She was the only one who could identify Dantes) and managed, by his all time bestseller, to further confuse the issue, covering up and justifying "mercers" and "orientalists" who returned to Paris from their little treasure islands, Zante and Hydra, as "philanthropists" and "liberal" or "recollet" "catholics-royalists" just like- and simultaneously with- "count Monte Christo".

[yanni]

Googling through for "John Fowler Hull" the conclusion is reached that HE WAS NOT the same person as William Henry Leonard Poe-"Guillelmo Cochini" ( in charge of the Zante affaires of the egyptian ruler Mehmet Ali", on record 21st May 1823!).

JFH-Edgar's quaker "bro" dying at 25-strongly relates to our story nevertheless:

He was well aquainted with William Allen (the "friendly biblical" alchemist in charge of the finacial affairs of the duke of Kent as from about 1815):

They met often in London, in the first half of 1823 and, shortly before JFH departed East he tutored WA, June 2nd 1823, in arabic scriptures also undertaking to:"....cut and paste a set" (Life of William Allen, page 354.)

(As seen earlier "John Madox came to Egypt on August 1823, stayed with Yanni a while in Gurna and, returning from the coast of the Red sea, brought JFH to Yanni-Armand Pierre de Perceval on the 14th of March 1824)

John Fowler Hull of Uxbridge, a member of the society of frineds, died in India, December 1825 and his obituary appeared in The Times June 26, 1826. .

However:

In his lengthy Necrology, T.Grimes Esq, Colchester (signing as T.G) advises that JFH stayed in Paris, 1818-1820, where he had "access to the royal manuscript collection"!. (The Classical Journal, pages 259-264), wherefrom, we guess, the provenance of his "valuable library" including persian and chinese manuscripts (left by his will to the trusteees of the British Museum, Handbook to the Library of the British Museum page 121):

Caussin de Percevals senior, ie "Yanni's" father(?) "Anastasy", missing from Hydra's archive August 1812 to June 1822, taught in Paris at the time and had access to relative royal manuscript collection!

We furthermore believe he is the mysterious person who accompanied JFH to London following 1820, claiming to have been Napoleon's translator* (as above) enlightening him further in the oriental languages.
(Coincidentaly, Mark Bedaride, Mizraim's next founder in France, visits London and Ireland in 1820 ).

If the rivalry between the duke of Kent (William Allen's- and propably JFH's- finacial source, father of Queen Victoria, he +1820) and the duke of Sussex (Prince regent as from 1820, childless, Romas's "Fenice Risorta" sponsor in Zante, 1815, 90th degree of Misraim Rite as form 1821) and the political usefullness of "Les Amis" and-later-Mormons are taken into consideration as well, then the same conclusions are reached as those by below mentioned sources, that the Mizriam Rite was "doomed", post 1820!

...'the Rite of Mismaim was only included that it might be quietly suppressed, as it was allowed to die...
http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/aqc/fringe/comments.html#4
http://www.scepa.org/#sdfootnote10anc

Whereas Edgar was informed via John Allen, William Henry Leonard and William Allen re Berenice the port, he did not learn of the above "policy change" concerning the Rite until 1835.

* Obviously Caussin de perceval senior!

[yanni]

Last few posts on "Ananiah" and "John Fowler Hull" justify this post, aimed to further clarify allegations made earlier on in "Poe Announcement" re Balsamo-Cozine-Caussin de Perceval-Allen-Joseph Smith's "Book of Moses" links.

John Fowler Hull's tutoring in "arabic", post 1820 in London, by Caussin de Perceval senior, following the purchase by the former of a large number of ancient manuscripts-in the care of the latter until then- plus quaker William Allen's admission of manuscripts "cutting and pasting" (by JFH) on his behalf in 1823 certainly lead to:

Joseph Smith's 1823 visitation-first ever-by a "prophet Moroni" that.....

....led to his finding and unearthing (in 1827) a long-buried book, inscribed on metal plates, which contained a record of God's dealings with the ancient Israelite inhabitants of the Americas.

A praisworthy aim-to be historicaly documented in the future, no doubt-combined with a deep religious duty guiding, then, not just Jo Smith but others as well.

Let's examine what and how things happened then:

Caussin de Perceval senior missing from Paris as from 1822-as seen earlier on in this thread-is to be found in Hydra, June 1822, as "Anastasios Lazarou Kokkinis" embarking last as "mate" ( Anastasy, remember, was consul of Rusia in Hydra till 1807) on "Terpsichori", destination obscure (page 643,Deltion 11 of Heraldic society of Athens, 2001, by undersigned)

whereas

.....his son Yanni (John Madox's "Jannis") ie Caussin de Perceval jr, was living in Egypt, in 1823, with brother, wife and mother, ie his father was also near by (he resurfaces in Hydra 1825, July)!
("Excursions in the Holy Land, Egypt, Nubia, Syria" by John Madox)

In other words:

There are "strong indications" that the leading orientalist JJA Caussin de Perceval (sr), lived in Egypt 1822-1825(and was more motivated, certainly, than JFH to "cut and paste") had "access" to the specific thebian papyri known as "D'Anastasi"(jr) today, thus the subject cannot be so easily bypassed anymore!

(....un certain d'Anastasi....http://www.idumea.org/Etudes/Ecritures/PGP/Approche_globale.htm)
.
JJA's earlier "Misraim" involvement, his family's participation in the greek "Society of friends" as from 1818 (Deltion 11),his 1821"association" with London and JFH-who, after "cutting and pasting" for William Allen, visited "Jannis" in Gurna, 1824 to then die young 1825 in India....

...plus british royalty "involvement" (in financing William Allen and controlling, as from 1815, Fenice Risorta, Zante and as from 1821 The Rite of Mizraim)...

....go a long way towards explaining the specific "history" and "religion" episodes of 19th cent.

Joseph Smith (died June 27, 1844 Carthage,Illinois, following his February announcement of his intent to to participate in the coming presidential elections) certainly inspired Edgar Poe to write his Mellonta Tauta.....

"I find that the great men in those days among the Amriccans, were one John, a smith, and one Zacchary, a tailor. "

.....but yours truly is not particularly interested to further indulge into Edgar's- or his friend, 1844 presidential candidate, Lewis Cass's -political thoughts and motives.

http://www.saintswithouthalos.com/ss/hjs_cnt.phtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1844

This cass-erole has long boiled over!

[Walter]

Agreed. So will we now see a short conclusion that an average reader with a short span of attention can understand, saying what all this was about and what it finally showed?
I hate to pester you, but in fact I'm curious, almost despite myself.

[yanni]

You don't really believe you can decode Poe in a hurry, do you?

Anyway, the text below was addressed to Wikipedia (article on Al Araaf) early April this year. The article itself has not been edited accordingly yet (by WPD) but you may find it usefull.

"2005-2007, at "The Literature Network Forums", researcher Antonios Emm.
Kokkinis, Athens-Greece, interpreted online "The Sonnet to Zante", "Al Aaraaf" and subsequently "Annabel Lee" (Angelica Palli), "The Visionary", "Berenice" and other poems (it should read "works"*&^%$*) by Edgar thus documenting the participation of both Poe brothers to two different "greek expeditions" (1823-1827) and their (as well as John Allen's) close ties to the orientalists Caussin de Percevals (father and son, same family as "french" Cochin(i), Cazin, Cassiny, "greek" Kokkini and "american" Caussin,Cassin, Cozine etc).
The "mysterious personalities" of "Le comte de Saint Germain", "count Cagliostro" are also thereby illuminated and an 1835 Zante murder case (involving, among others, the greek poet Dionysios Solomos) that inspired Edgar Poe to write "To Zante" is solved. "

"Moroni" above is a sidekick, you may say, and an open invitation to the countless "scholars" either debating the issue "D'Anastasi papyri" etc for some 180 years now or covering up facts and issues.

They are wellcome to prove me wrong and, until then, I am well satisfied both by the attention this thread received as well as by being now recognised, officialy more or less, as "Nesace=small island" godfather.

Curiosity kills cats, Walter, and so does "the economy", heh-heh!

[Walter]

You don't really believe you can decode Poe in a hurry, do you?

No, but I think you can now explain what your purpose was, and whether you achieved it, in about two short sentences.

[yanni]

I found and told my truth, "Walter", it's your turn now!

(one short sentence)

[Walter]

Even shorter sentence: "Fuhgeddaboudit!"

[yanni]

Is that a quorumangelorum or not?
You talk like Mario Puzzo's "Godfather"....

[yanni]

....following the conversation quoted below with "Midnightdreary", their "Poe expert", stopped trying to edit relevant Wiki-article on Al Aaraaf.

Enjoy:

Re my "Al Aarraf" contribution!
Did you remove it from the "current" version of the article and if so, why?
Nevertheless, you'd propably need do something about "it" sooner or later!
Cheers! User:Gioachino 06:47,(talk) 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Your answer at my "talk" page-thanks-does not really address the issue: "It" is bigger than anything written on Poe so far, my "bad english" did not prevent me from solving his mystery, the ball is in your park now, I am done with Edgar, it's Henry Poe's turn next: Does the name "George Washington Cass" sound familiar to you btw?
Cheers again!
Gioachino (talk) 19:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are trying to say. --Midnightdreary (talk) 13:10, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

You "have no idea" because your Edgar's father was David Poe jr, mine's David Poe sr, your's foster father was a John Allan, mine's John AllEn (of Allenwood, Tennessee, friend of Andrew Jackson, a fillibusterer and shrewed businessman as well). As for "William henry Leonard Poe": They invented him jointly, in 1827, Edgar Allen and William Townshend Washington (nephew of the late president) who misbehaved and fell seriously ill while in Greece, 1823-24, returned to the States, visited John Allen summer 1825 to obtain a new "identity". Edgar replaced him returning to Greece as his brother George , spring 1827 and, among others, "fixed" William's death. That's how their early publication efforts materialised (by WHLP) and that's why "cadet Williams" T.Washington, in Paris 1822, "died" as William Townsend Washington April 1827 in Napoli, Campagna, Italy (US sources) or as George Townsend Washington, philhellene, in Napoli di Morea, Greece (greek and US sources).
Re "Cass": Secretary Lewis Cass wrote a letter to David Douglas at West Point June 1827 recommending his nephew, son of his sister, yet named George Washington "Cass". Secretary L.Cass and professor D.Douglas are Edgar's two aquaintances NOT spoken about by "Poe scholars" repeating the same falsitudes over and over. G.W.Cass outlived Edgar but Edgar Allen Poe may have had his reasons to dissappear following the death of Tampico captain John Allen. (Also of interest a George Washington Poe, Edgar's penpal and the Raven's-Sam Houston-lieutenant!)
Gioachino (talk) 15:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

This is still mostly incoherent to me. What does this have to do with "Al Aaraaf". This sounds like a conspiracy theory that there was an "Edgar Allan Poe" and an "Edgar Allen Poe" with very similarly-named foster-fathers. I'm responding with a more relevant response on your talk page. --Midnightdreary (talk) 23:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

"Secrecy shall knowledge be in the environs of heaven" huh? No, there was just one Edgar Allen Poe who declared his part in a conspiracy in his "Al Aaraaf". His con-spirator, John Allen was "The Raven's" fatherinlaw. Midnightdreary rimes with weak and weary and responds in this fashion too! Cheers! Gioachino (talk) 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)