Stories with holes 3

[Snukes]

A man gets in his car and starts to drive. He turns on the radio, pulls the car off to the side of the road, gets out a gun, and shoots himself.

(Haha. Just to be a pain in the ***, I should've stated this one: "When the music started, he died." :D)

[Nightshade]

huuum did he shoot himself because of somthig he heard on the radio or did he get in the car with the intention of shooting himself?

[kilted exile]

Did he kill himself because of the music on the radio (something really annoying like Sum41, Britney Spears, Avril Lavigne etc)?

[papayahed]

Was it a nice car?
Was there music on the radio?
Did he have a permit for the gun?
Were there other cars on the road?
Was he alone in the car?
Did he have cloths on?

[Nightshade]

Was he bankrupt?
Did he pullover onto the hard shoulder?
Did he pull over illegally?
Did he pull over in a designated spot for stopping?
Did he have a morgage?
Was this at night?
Did he own the car?
Did he have a lisence?

[Taliesin]

Is the radio relevant?
Did he turn on his radio for some other reason than listening to it?
Did he plan to kill himself before he started to drive?
Were there any other people there when he shot himself?
Had he done anything relevant before he started to drive?
Did he do anything relevant while driving except for turning on the radio?
Did he kill himself because of the radio?
Did he turn on the radio because he wanted to kill himself?
Did he do anything relevant after stopping his car (besides suicide, of course)?
Did he mean to kill himself?

[Snukes]

did he shoot himself because of somthig he heard on the radio or did he get in the car with the intention of shooting himself?He shot himself because of what he heard on the radio.


Did he kill himself because of the music on the radio (something really annoying like Sum41, Britney Spears, Avril Lavigne etc)?He did not kill himself because the music sucked so much that it made his soul cry. ;)


Was it a nice car?
Was there music on the radio?
Did he have a permit for the gun?
Were there other cars on the road?
Was he alone in the car?
Did he have cloths on?It might have been a nice car. Doesn't matter.
There was not music on the radio.
He may or may not have had a permit for the gun. Doesn't matter.
There were no other cars on the road.
He was alone in the car.
Hehehe! Yes, he had all his clothing on. ;)


Was he bankrupt?
Did he pullover onto the hard shoulder?
Did he pull over illegally?
Did he pull over in a designated spot for stopping?
Did he have a morgage?
Was this at night?
Did he own the car?
Did he have a lisence?No, he was not bankrupt.
Umm... he just pulled off the road. Far enough off not to get hit if another car came along I guess. I don't know much about shoulders...
I don't think it was illegal to pull over, but no, it was not a designated spot for stopping.
I assume he had a morgage (that pretty much just means you own a house and are still paying for it, right?) but it doesn't really matter.
This was at night.
He owned the car.
He did have a drivers license.


Is the radio relevant?
Did he turn on his radio for some other reason than listening to it?
Did he plan to kill himself before he started to drive?
Were there any other people there when he shot himself?
Had he done anything relevant before he started to drive?
Did he do anything relevant while driving except for turning on the radio?
Did he kill himself because of the radio?
Did he turn on the radio because he wanted to kill himself?
Did he do anything relevant after stopping his car (besides suicide, of course)?
Did he mean to kill himself?The radio is very relevant.
Yes, he turned the radio on for a reason other than wanting to listen to the radio.
He did not plan to kill himself before he started to drive.
He was alone when he shot himself.
Yes, he had done something relevant before starting to drive.
He did nothing in while in the car that was not mentioned in the original story.
He killed himself because of the radio, he did not turn the radio on because he wanted to kill himself.
Nothing other than his suicide happened after he stopped the car.
When he put the gun to his head and pulled the trigger, it was with the intention of killing himself (if that's what you meant by your last question).

[kilted exile]

Did the radio give information about a friend/ family member dying?

[Nightshade]

Or that he was Micheal Jackson and was convicted?
Or on similar grounds he was a crimial who was found out or a victim of a crime the criminal of which was released??
Hum was he a VIP?
Was he listening to the news??

[papayahed]

Was where he going in the car relevent? where he was coming from?

[Basil]

Was he being pursued? People looking for him?

[Snukes]

Did the radio give information about a friend/ family member dying?The radio did not give him news of a death in the family.


Or that he was Micheal Jackson and was convicted?
Or on similar grounds he was a crimial who was found out or a victim of a crime the criminal of which was released??
Hum was he a VIP?
Was he listening to the news??Um... Michael Jackson will not be making an appearance in this story. :p
Yes, he was a criminal who was found out.
He was not the victim of a crime for which the criminal was released......
It's hard to say if he was a VIP. Depends on the scope I suppose...
He was not listening to the news.

(That is a REALLY fantastic set of questions, Nightshade...)


Was where he going in the car relevent? where he was coming from?Oh yes! On both counts. Where he was coming from and where he was going are both important.


Was he being pursued? People looking for him?No, he was not being persued. Nor was anyone looking for him......

Those are all really great questions, actually. Especially considered all together. Muahahaha!

[Taliesin]

Did he kill himself out of shame?
Depression?
For someone else's well-being?
Because there was a possible torture ahead and he didn't want to suffer?
Out of panic?
Or out of oh-my-god-what-have-i-done-feeling?

Is the type of his crime relevant?
Was it murder?
Theft?
Raping?
Robbery?
Arson?
Selling drugs?
Or some small crime like speeding or crossing the road in the wrong place?

Was he driving to some other person's place?
Is the time of the suicide relevant?
Was there a misunderstanding?

Did he turn on the radio so that there would be noise to hide/conceal some other noise/thing?
Did he turn on the radio to relax?

[Nightshade]

Recap
An exposed criminal who may have been a VIP does somthing relevant then gets in his car at night and drives from somwhere relevant to somwhere relevant- without the intention of suicide.
He was not persued and was alone in the car and there are no other cars on the rode.
He turned on the radio and somthing he heard made him pull up and comitt suicide.
It was not the news and not music.

Thats it I think?
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Was he a war criminal?
Was it a normal radio?
Was it similar to a police radio?

[Snukes]

Did he kill himself out of shame?
Depression?
For someone else's well-being?
Because there was a possible torture ahead and he didn't want to suffer?
Out of panic?
Or out of oh-my-god-what-have-i-done-feeling?

Is the type of his crime relevant?
Was it murder?
Theft?
Raping?
Robbery?
Arson?
Selling drugs?
Or some small crime like speeding or crossing the road in the wrong place?

Was he driving to some other person's place?
Is the time of the suicide relevant?
Was there a misunderstanding?

Did he turn on the radio so that there would be noise to hide/conceal some other noise/thing?
Did he turn on the radio to relax?He did not kill himself out of shame, nor depression, nor for someone else's well-being. The last three things you mention - to avoid torture, because of panic, or because of an oh-my-God-what-have-I-done feeling are a bit more difficult to answer. It's hard to say *exactly* what was going through his head when he decided to do it, but any of these could have been possible.

The type of crime is relevant: It was murder. It was not also any of the other things you mentioned.

He was not driving to another person's home, if that's what you meant.
The *absolute* time of the suicide is not relevant.
There were no misunderstandings.
He did not turn on the radio to conceal another noise, nor did he turn it on to relax.

Nice recap, Nightshade! Thanks. :) The only thing you forgot is that there is a crime involved, and we now know that it is murder.

[Snukes]

Bump bump bump!

[Jay]

Is his gender relevant? ie the driver being male or female matters or not?

[Snukes]

Nah. The story could be switched around so that it would be possible for the person in question to be a woman, but as far as what we've already established, it has to be a man. (Which is to say, no vital facts hinge on his maleness, but since we've already made him male, we can't very well go changing him! :D)

I'm sure there was a simpler way to answer that question...

[Basil]

He was a criminal who was found out, but he was not being pursued . . . I'm thinking what he heard on the radio informed him (either directly or indirectly) that he was not going to get away with the murder?

[Nightshade]

hum is who he murdered relevant??
Was it a political murder?

[Scheherazade]

Did he commit the murder?
If so, was it intentional? Was it an 'accident'?
Did he kill himself when he discovered what he had done? (E.g., a doctor prescribing wrong medicine to his patient?)
Did he kill himself because he himself was in some kind of danger and he realised there was no way out for him? (E.g., someone poisoned them and he realised he could not survive and then killed himself?)
Did he turn the radio on to find out what time it was? Then he realised that he did not have time to... get to the hospital perhaps so shot himself?
Was his life in some kind of danger when he started driving?
Was he aware of it if yes?
Gah... In short, did he kill himself out of guilt? Out of hopelessness?

[papayahed]

Was he driving to the airport? bus terminal?
Was he trying to escape the country? or whatever municipality he was in?
Did he commit the murder recently? Like did he whack the person, then get in the car? or did he whack the person make a sandwich, take a nap then get in the car?
Is the gender of the murderee important?
Did he hear a traffic report on the radio?

[Snukes]

He was a criminal who was found out, but he was not being pursued . . . I'm thinking what he heard on the radio informed him (either directly or indirectly) that he was not going to get away with the murder?Indeed, Basil, this is exactly the case. And even though you didn't specifically ask, I'll clarify: It was indirectly.


hum is who he murdered relevant??
Was it a political murder?Who he murdered is part of the story, yes.
It was not a political murder.


Did he commit the murder?
If so, was it intentional? Was it an 'accident'?
Did he kill himself when he discovered what he had done? (E.g., a doctor prescribing wrong medicine to his patient?)
Did he kill himself because he himself was in some kind of danger and he realised there was no way out for him? (E.g., someone poisoned them and he realised he could not survive and then killed himself?)
Did he turn the radio on to find out what time it was? Then he realised that he did not have time to... get to the hospital perhaps so shot himself?
Was his life in some kind of danger when he started driving?
Was he aware of it if yes?
Gah... In short, did he kill himself out of guilt? Out of hopelessness?He, he did commit the murder, and he meant to do it. Not at all an accident. Not even an "accident." ;)
No, he did not kill himself because of discovering what he had done.
He is not in the kind of danger you describe, so he did not kill himself for such a reason.
He did not turn on the radio to find out the time.
His life was not in danger when he started driving.
He did not kill himself out of guilt. But maybe out of hopelessness, just not the kind you've described. ;) (See my reply to Basil...)


Was he driving to the airport? bus terminal?
Was he trying to escape the country? or whatever municipality he was in?
Did he commit the murder recently? Like did he whack the person, then get in the car? or did he whack the person make a sandwich, take a nap then get in the car?
Is the gender of the murderee important?
Did he hear a traffic report on the radio?He was not driving to an airport or bus terminal.
He was not trying to escape anything.
He did commit the murder recently, like whack the person then get in the car. :) No sandwiches involved...
The gender of the murderee is relevant, if not desperately important.
He did not hear a traffic report on the radio.

[Snukes]

Hmmm... shall I do a nice pretty review? I think I'll do it a bit like Nightshade did, instead of the way I've been doing it before. Half and half, maybe.

What you already know:A man gets in his car and starts to drive. He turns on the radio, pulls the car off to the side of the road, gets out a gun, and shoots himself.

The man driving the car has killed someone. We do not yet know who, but we know that the gender is relevant. He got into his car immediately after the murder. Where he is coming from and where he was going are important. When he started to drive, he did not mean to kill himself. What he heard on the radio indicated indirectly that he was not going to get away with the murder. He was not driving to the airport or a bus terminal.

We still do not know exactly what he heard on the radio. We know he did not hear information about a friend or family member dying, about the Michael Jackson trial, music that sucked so much he had to kill himself to ease the pain, the weather report, the traffic report, nor did he turn it on to relax or to disguise some other noise.

Rah rah!

[Nightshade]

Was it a normal radio?
Or isit like a two way police radio?
Did he murder a woman?

[Basil]

The gender of the murderee is relevant, if not desperately important.
Did he kill his wife?
What he heard on the radio: did it have something to do with his alibi? Did something he was planning on go awry?

[Snukes]

Was it a normal radio?
Or isit like a two way police radio?
Did he murder a woman?It was a normal radio. And yes, he murdered a woman. To jump ahead and answer Basil's question - it was his wife.


What he heard on the radio: did it have something to do with his alibi? Did something he was planning on go awry?Yes, what he heard on the radio was about his alibi. Something had, indeed, gone awry.

Basil is a smart cookie! With or without nuts!

[Taliesin]

Did he hear that his wife had turned into a zombie and is now following him?
Was his alibi provided by another person? (i.e a friend of his?)
By another group of persons? (i.e a bridge club)
By some thing?
Did his plan later on depend on running away/escaping?
Or receiving his cash?
Did anyone help him to murder her?
If yes, then did he help him directly?
Or subtly? Like making the plan or providing a false alibi?
Did he hear that the person providing the alibi had said that he had been lying?
Is the reason of the murder relevant?
Did he plan the murder?
Did he kill her because of money?
Because of jealousy?
Because he was tired of her?
Because she was a danger to him?
Or were there any other reasons?

[papayahed]

Is the man OJ?
Did anybody witness the murder?
Was the man driving to an event where people would know he was there and provide an alibi?
Is how he murdered his wife relevent?
Was he covered in blood?

[Basil]

Something had, indeed, gone awry.
What a great line! :p

Where he is coming from and where he was going are important.
Did he murder her at home and was going elsewhere?
or
Did he murder her elsewhere and was on his way home?
And did the radio somehow inform him that he would NOT reach his destination, thereby ruining his alibi? Is that what's gone horribly awry?

[Nightshade]

Ohh did he poison her?
Was he going home to discover her? or somthing similar?
Was he present when she died? and is this relevant?
Is the means of her murder relevant?
or why he did it?

[atiguhya padma]

Does he and his wife own more than one car? and is this relevant?
Did turning on the radio give him any idea of the direction in which he was driving?
Did the radio work?
Did he realise that there was something about the car that would kill him anyway?

[Scheherazade]

Did he kill only one person?
Did he realise that someone else survived, hence eyewitness?

[Nightshade]

Was the radio telling him that he was going to meet his greates t phobia nad the stress drove him to suicide? :D
e.g it was raining and hes afraid of water?

[Snukes]

Did he hear that his wife had turned into a zombie and is now following him?
Was his alibi provided by another person? (i.e a friend of his?)
By another group of persons? (i.e a bridge club)
By some thing?
Did his plan later on depend on running away/escaping?
Or receiving his cash?
Did anyone help him to murder her?
If yes, then did he help him directly?
Or subtly? Like making the plan or providing a false alibi?
Did he hear that the person providing the alibi had said that he had been lying?
Is the reason of the murder relevant?
Did he plan the murder?
Did he kill her because of money?
Because of jealousy?
Because he was tired of her?
Because she was a danger to him?
Or were there any other reasons?Once again, Taliesin renews his status as my favorite...

No, he did not find out his wife had turned into a zombie and was following him. :p
His alibi was no provided by a person or a group of persons, but was provided by a thing.
His plan did not involve him running away or receiving cash.
No one helped him with the murder, directly or subtly.
The reason of the murder is relevant.
Yes, he DID plan it.
He killed her because of jealousy, not money, being tired of her, or because she was a danger to him. It's possible there are other reasons, but you got the main one.


Is the man OJ?
Did anybody witness the murder?
Was the man driving to an event where people would know he was there and provide an alibi?
Is how he murdered his wife relevent?
Was he covered in blood?Gah! The man was not OJ.
No one witnessed the murder.
The man was not driving to an event where he could be seen as an alibi.
How he murdered his wife is part of the story.
Assuming you mean before he shot himself, no, he was not covered with blood.


Did he murder her at home and was going elsewhere?
or Did he murder her elsewhere and was on his way home?
And did the radio somehow inform him that he would NOT reach his destination, thereby ruining his alibi? Is that what's gone horribly awry?He did murder her at home, and was going elsewhere.
The radio did not inform him that he would not reach his destination. (Too many negatives there. Um... no good way to rephrase, figure it out yourselves! ;))


Ohh did he poison her?
Was he going home to discover her? or somthing similar?
Was he present when she died? and is this relevant?
Is the means of her murder relevant?
or why he did it?
Was the radio telling him that he was going to meet his greates t phobia nad the stress drove him to suicide?
e.g it was raining and hes afraid of water?Nightshade, you're giving Taliesin a run for his money here... ;)
He did not poison her.
I'm not sure what you mean by "to discover her"...
He was present when she died. The means and the motive are all part of the story, but knowing them will not help you unravel the big fat half of the story that is still missing. ;)
The radio said nothing about meeting great phobias.


Does he and his wife own more than one car? and is this relevant?
Did turning on the radio give him any idea of the direction in which he was driving?
Did the radio work?
Did he realise that there was something about the car that would kill him anyway?They probably own more than one car, but this is not relevant.
Turning on the radio did not give him any navigational aid.
Yes, the radio did work.
The car was not a danger to the man.


Did he kill only one person?
Did he realise that someone else survived, hence eyewitness?I'm glad you waited this long to answer what I thought was a really obvious question, because I changed my mind on the answer about 10 minutes ago. :D Yes, he killed only one person. (Don't worry... none of my other replies are wonky because I just changed my mind.)
There were no witnesses.

[Snukes]

Recap?

What you already know:A man gets in his car and starts to drive. He turns on the radio, pulls the car off to the side of the road, gets out a gun, and shoots himself.

The man driving the car has killed his wife, at home, out of jealousy. There were no witnesses. He got into his car immediately after the murder. When he started to drive, he did not mean to kill himself. What he heard on the radio indicated indirectly that he was not going to get away with the murder. He was not driving to the airport or a bus terminal, nor a place with many people who would provide an alibi.

We still do not know exactly what he heard on the radio. We know that what he heard indicated he would not get away with the murder. It was not news that indicated he could not get where he was going. The radio does work.

There are no zombies or phobias in this story. ;)

[Scheherazade]

Did he realise that his wife also tried to kill him? Say, she poisoned him and he didn't know at the time?
Did he hear something about the murder on the radio?
Or himself? His wife?
Is there anyone else involved?
Was either of them having an affair?
Did he realise that he was mistaken to think that his wife was having an affair?
Are their jobs relevant?
Was he conditioned (by his wife maybe) to kill himself on hearing a certain word?
Did he get into the car to get away from the murder scene?
Was he taking the body somewhere else? Did he forget the body at home and someone discovered it? :p

OAI syndrome in action! :D

[Snukes]

Did he realise that his wife also tried to kill him? Say, she poisoned him and he didn't know at the time?
Did he hear something about the murder on the radio?
Or himself? His wife?
Is there anyone else involved?
Was either of them having an affair?
Did he realise that he was mistaken to think that his wife was having an affair?
Are their jobs relevant?
Was he conditioned (by his wife maybe) to kill himself on hearing a certain word?
Did he get into the car to get away from the murder scene?
Was he taking the body somewhere else? Did he forget the body at home and someone discovered it? :p(Although this is not really the question you asked, it's a much simpler way to answer): his wife did not try to kill him first.
He did not hear anything about the murder on the radio. He did not hear about himself or his wife either.
There is kind of someone else involved.
Yes, one of them was having an affair.
He did not realize he was mistaken to think his wife was having an affair.
Oooh. Their jobs ARE relevant. Well...
He was not conditioned to kill himself.
Hm. Yes, he got into the car to get away from the murder scene, but be careful how you understand that...
He was not taking the body anywhere. He did not forget the body. The body has not yet been discovered.

Way to go, Scher.

[Basil]

O.K. I'm going to make a guess here:

The man is a disk jockey at the radio station. He decides to kill his wife because she is having an affair. At the time of his wife's murder, he was supposed to be working at the radio station. He put on a recording of himself um, disk jockeying to provide himself both with the opportunity to kill his wife as well as an alibi (being at work). After the murder, he was driving back to the radio station, so as to be there when the next DJ shows up. What he heard when he turned on the radio was some sort of malfunction with the recording, thus exposing his absence and destroying his alibi.

Smart cookie INDEED!

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[Snukes]

Indeed! Basil is not only a smart cookie, but GETS a cookie for figuring out the story! Ding! Wild applause!

[Scheherazade]

*hands the Sherlock hat to Basil*

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WTG! :D

[papayahed]

I was gonna say that hehe *snort*

[Basil]

Indeed! Basil is not only a smart cookie, but GETS a cookie for figuring out the story! Ding! Wild applause!
The Cookie Who Devours Other Cookies . . . Basil, the Cannabilistic Cookie!

Is that all of it? Does it matter how he killed his wife?

You can hold on to the hat, Scherlock . . . just from now on, please refer to me as :

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[Scheherazade]

Is that all of it? Does it matter how he killed his wife?
Oh, you are showing off now!!! :p

[Basil]

Oh, you are showing off now!!! :p
People of meagre intelligence often suspect that of their betters!


:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

[Jay]

That was wishful thinking now, right? :p

[Scheherazade]

People of meagre intelligence often suspect that of their betters!
True, I am nothing but a pleb! :p

[Basil]

A dumb pleb!

*waits to get *bopped**

[Jay]

*smacks Basil with a copy of Ulysses*

Anything for a fellow readaholic ;)

[Basil]

*smacks Basil with a copy of Ulysses*
Owwww! My brain! My vastly superior brain!!

Intelligence . . . fading . . . g e t t i n g . . . d u m b e r

Ahh, well, I was smart there for a little bit!

*goes to read Flowers For Algernon*

[Jay]

Have I told you yet you've got a crazy avatar? :p

[Scheherazade]

Oh, I see plebs of the world are uniting!

Thanks, Jay! http://www.nestle.fi/site_dir/nestle_fi/images/kitkat_48g.jpg

*bops Basil herself for good measure*
:p

I hate to disappoint!

[Jay]

Nice, I even get a treat! Would it work if I bopped Basil again? :angel:

[Basil]

Have I told you yet you've got a crazy avatar? :p

Neigh, you haven't!

[Scheherazade]

Intelligence . . . fading . . . g e t t i n g . . . d u m b e r

Ahh, well, I was smart there for a little bit!

Ah, that is the Basil we know... Welcome back! :D

PS: Algernon is one of my favorite books!

[Jay]

Neigh, you haven't!
Now I have ;)

Getting curious about the Algernon book now

edit
Found a copy in our 'home' library... in Czech :bawling:

[Scheherazade]

Algernon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1857989384/qid=1119462366/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-7895258-0080664)

See if you are interested! :)

[Jay]

I'm a good pleb and don't need to have logic associationg... so I don't ;)

Hey, it's a sci-fi? At least that's what the library entry says...

[Jay]

Algernon (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1857989384/qid=1119462366/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/202-7895258-0080664)

See if you are interested! :)
Okey, me interested, lol

[Snukes]

Is that all of it? Does it matter how he killed his wife?I wonder what you think the man was doing with a gun so handy to kill himself, oh Great Brain! ;)

I think Flowers for Algernon is a really lovely story. I was in a play version during high school - I was one of Charlie's little friends. I remember so great quotes from it, though not the character's names:

Doctor: You want to learn Russian?
Charlie: Of course. I'd like to know what War and Peace is like in the original language.
Doctor: I didn't even like it in English!

[alberich]

Hi everyone!
Ive just written another story with holes.
hope u enjoy it